NASA announcement @ 1pm TODAY

[Brianthehulk]

It was an illusion created by the white man to fool you, EDB. You never left home.

The internet, you, me, everything is an illusion to protect our egos from shattering upon revelation of the Original Hebrew clan.

My typing, your reading, none of it is even real.

Even this  is fake!

so we do live in the Matrix?

[devilsmile]

VERY interesting video on flat earth. I thought the theory was laughable but after digging in it's hard to refuse logic

[Wiggs]

VERY interesting video on flat earth. I thought the theory was laughable but after digging in it's hard to refuse logic

It's because it's true emo. I used to laugh at it as well. Until for whatever reason last year I looked into it to debunk it and I ended up debunking globe earth. I didn't tell anyone for a while because I thought it was crazy. Truth is we've all been had. 

The question is why would they lie to us? Easy...To cast doubt that there is a God. Then you can control the minds of the masses and make up shit like evolution and big bang.

[Walter Sobchak]

Wiggs there is medication for what ails you. Please take it before you eat someone's face because you thought it was chicken sandwich. 

No medication will cure chronic stupidity

[da_vinci]

I love it how stupid people who are incapable to comprehend a real science create their own "science".

[devilsmile]

It's because it's true emo. I used to laugh at it as well. Until for whatever reason last year I looked into it to debunk it and I ended up debunking globe earth. I didn't tell anyone for a while because I thought it was crazy. Truth is we've all been had.  

The question is why would they lie to us? Easy...To cast doubt that there is a God. Then you can control the minds of the masses and make up shit like evolution and big bang.

I'm an emo, sayeth the black hitler drinking whiskey in a bar in las vegas, watching a basketball game, preaching the word of black bible. Seems legit.

I agree with you what you said there regarding casting doubt that there is a god the creator and the video explains it. Without the globe model, the big bang model wouldn't be considered, without the big bang model, the theory of evolution wouldn't be on the table, without the theory of evolution, extraterrestrials seeding mankind is over, without all these lies people start thinking about the creator, who we are, where we come from.

Well, great, the earth is flat then. Well, lets just say that there is more evidence on flat earth than there is of the spheric model. There are also no authentic pictures where there's a crystal clear picture of our earth all alone. I shall post a picture of my abs if anyone can find a picture of earth that wasn't modified/photoshopped at all

[da_vinci]

I'm an emo, sayeth the black hitler drinking whiskey in a bar in las vegas, watching a basketball game, preaching the word of black bible. Seems legit.

I agree with you what you said there regarding casting doubt that there is a god the creator and the video explains it. Without the globe model, the big bang model wouldn't be considered, without the big bang model, the theory of evolution wouldn't be on the table, without the theory of evolution, extraterrestrials seeding mankind is over, without all these lies people start thinking about the creator, who we are, where we come from.

Well, great, the earth is flat then. Well, lets just say that there is more evidence on flat earth than there is of the spheric model. There are also no authentic pictures where there's a crystal clear picture of our earth all alone.

Who created the creator tho'?

[devilsmile]

Who created the creator tho'?

When was nothing and what was before nothing?

These are questions noone can answer with certainty I think, we are all believers, but all in all there is now more evidence in gods favor than in coincidenses favor. LOL I mean even science tells us that there is an even greater power than science, how about that...

But like I said, I can't answer when was nothing, who created the creator. Who said anyone created the creator, because god goes beyond humans brain capabilities.

[da_vinci]

When was nothing and what was before nothing?

These are questions noone can answer with certainty I think, we are all believers, but all in all there is now more evidence in gods favor than in coincidenses favor. LOL I mean even science tells us that there is an even greater power than science, how about that...

But like I said, I can't answer when was nothing, who created the creator. Who said anyone created the creator, because god goes beyond humans brain capabilities.

Why do you assume there was "nothing"? Maybe existence doesn't need to be created at all, it just is? Without any purpose, any meaning, any "goal", just simply.... exists..

[devilsmile]

Why do you assume there was "nothing"? Maybe existence doesn't need to be created at all, it just is? Without any purpose, any meaning, any "goal", just simply.... exists..

yeah and it doesn't make any sense at all neither if you try to make sense of it. How can you say an apple merely existed when you go grocery shopping. Obviously it was taken from a tree that grew from the ground up from a seed and that seed... well you get the point. There always was something before something else and it goes all the way back to the point where someone created it all in the first place.

And you can also say "what if god simply existed always, just existed", and it makes as less sense as your above theory so we're both in the blind here when it comes to that.

I mean, I'm not theorizing what I want to believe, but what makes sense, there shouldn't be any bias thinking if you want truth.

[Wiggs]

I'm an emo, sayeth the black hitler drinking whiskey in a bar in las vegas, watching a basketball game, preaching the word of black bible. Seems legit.

I agree with you what you said there regarding casting doubt that there is a god the creator and the video explains it. Without the globe model, the big bang model wouldn't be considered, without the big bang model, the theory of evolution wouldn't be on the table, without the theory of evolution, extraterrestrials seeding mankind is over, without all these lies people start thinking about the creator, who we are, where we come from.

Well, great, the earth is flat then. Well, lets just say that there is more evidence on flat earth than there is of the spheric model. There are also no authentic pictures where there's a crystal clear picture of our earth all alone. I shall post a picture of my abs if anyone can find a picture of earth that wasn't modified/photoshopped at all

It all starts with one lie and a bunch of smaller lies are added to support the bigger lies.  We've been living in a fake reality.

[devilsmile]

oh yeah and da vinci, one other question would be fun to entertain with, why the fuck did god create this mmorpg called life? I don't know that neither... man I don't know many things, when it comes to the core of existance, neither do you. But so what.

[da_vinci]

yeah and it doesn't make any sense at all neither if you try to make sense of it. How can you say an apple merely existed when you go grocery shopping. Obviously it was taken from a tree that grew from the ground up from a seed and that seed... well you get the point. There always was something before something else and it goes all the way back to the point where someone created it all in the first place.

And you can also say "what if god simply existed always, just existed", and it makes as less sense as your above theory so we're both in the blind here when it comes to that.

I mean, I'm not theorizing what I want to believe, but what makes sense, there shouldn't be any bias thinking if you want truth.

The creation of something as complex as "god" must have an infinitely more complex creator if so. The evolution of a physical matter and most of it's forms, based on core physical forces, is already explained pretty well by current science, it's a lot easier to explain all that we see than to explain "god", which must have an even bigger "god" who created "him", and that god must have an even more complex creator, it goes ad infinitum. Isn't a lot more simple explanation that "existence" has always existed (thus the "existence") with no begining and no end? (if there'd be an "end", it would have probably happened already, but it seems everything just is as it is, with no direction or meaning or "final goal", it simply is..). People are evaluating everything from their narrow point of view as they see birth and death in the nature, etc... But if everything is just "a whole", an energy manifested in various shape - than there's no "birth" and "death" on a bigger scale, just fluctuations of energy.

[Tapeworm]

- what do the four pillars that the Earth stands on, stand on themselves?

Elephants on turtles!

[da_vinci]

oh yeah and da vinci, one other question would be fun to entertain with, why the fuck did god create this mmorpg called life? I don't know that neither... man I don't know many things, when it comes to the core of existance, neither do you. But so what.

I guess noone created anything, as if it was "created" it must have some kind of "goal". It has been happening for thousands and millions of thousands of years, doesn't seem like it's moving anywhere tbh. And if someone as complex as "god" exist, why couldn't it create everything "perfect" from a get go, straight to the "goal"? It just makes no sense. Everything simply existing with no meaning and no begining and no end makes a lot more sense imho. It's hard to accept that it may be like that (no purpose, no nothing, just a cosmic "music"), but if you do - everything falls to places.

[Walter Sobchak]

It all starts with one lie and a bunch of smaller lies are added to support the bigger lies.  We've been living in a fake reality.

When Stephen Hawking says so, I will think about it.

As long as it is only being professed by a brain dead chocolate marshmallow, I will keep on keeping on

[devilsmile]

The creation of something as complex as "god" must have an infinitely more complex creator if so. The evolution of a physical matter and most of it's forms, based on core physical forces, is already explained pretty well by current science, it's a lot easier to explain all that we see than to explain "god", which must have an even bigger "god" who created "him", and that god must have an even more complex creator, it goes ad infinitum. Isn't a lot more simple explanation that "existence" has always existed (thus the "existence") with no begining and no end? (if there'd be an "end", it would have probably happened already, but it seems everything just is as it is, with no direction or meaning or "final goal", it simply is..). People are evaluating everything from their narrow point of view as they see birth and death in the nature, etc... But if everything is just "a whole", an energy manifested in various shape - than there's no "birth" and "death" on a bigger scale, just fluctuations of energy.

Well there you go, you think with the very same principles as I do. But you choose the coincidence and that there was existance before creation, I choose to believe that there was existance after creation and that there is a beginning and an end. You said it's easier to explain with science what we see now than it is to explain god, for sure its true and I agree, but it's also easier to say there is a beginning and an end than it is to explain that we are all one entity and nothing matters.

Interesting to find we have two differend themes, but the platform to make sense is completely same. So... you are my brother, da_vinci

I guess noone created anything, as if it was "created" it must have some kind of "goal". It has been happening for thousands and millions of thousands of years, doesn't seem like it's moving anywhere tbh. And if someone as complex as "god" exist, why couldn't it create everything "perfect" from a get go, straight to the "goal"? It just makes no sense. Everything simply existing with no meaning and no begining and no end makes a lot more sense imho. It's hard to accept that it may be like that (no purpose, no nothing, just a cosmic "music"), but if you do - everything falls to places.

Yeah it makes no sense, why would god do all this. But it makes no sense neither to glorify what you call nothing, meaningless and empty that for me is like the refreshing smell of grass after the rain or the smell of maggot infested corpse.

We are both right and both wrong because neither of us can explain how everything came to be in the first place. One of us chooses to believe in god and one of us chooses to believe in pure coincidental existance.

[da_vinci]

Well there you go, you think with the very same principles as I do. But you choose the coincidence and that there was existance before creation, I choose to believe that there was existance after creation and that there is a beginning and an end. You said it's easier to explain with science what we see now than it is to explain god, for sure its true and I agree, but it's also easier to say there is a beginning and an end that it is to explain that we are all one entity and nothing matters, lol.

Interesting to find we have two differend themes, but the platform to make sense is cpmpletely the same. So... you are my brother, da_vinci

Yeah it makes no sense, why would god do all this. But it makes no sense neither to glorify what you call nothing, meaningless and empty that for me is like the refreshing smell of grass after the rain or the smell of maggot infested corpse.

We are both right and both wrong because neither of us can explain how everything came to be in the first place. One of us chooses to believe in god and one of us chooses to believe in pure coincidental existance.

All would be good, BUT..................... .......if there was a begining (and there is an end)... someone who creted ALL must have existed too already, so... where's that "begining" then? Maybe there is none afterall? In this scenario "it always existed" has a lot more merit imho.

[Nails]

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Dear Wiggs, I rarely step outside bodybuilding related subjects (i.e. politics, religion, etc.) as what do I know, right!?  But I respectfully ask a few questions here if I may about comment/world view that I genuinely would be interested in hearing the answer to:

- what do the four pillars that the Earth stands on, stand on themselves?
- are the oceans all around infinite in all directions?
- is there life in those surrounding oceans?
- you mentioned that you used science to draw your conclusions - what science do you mean?

As I say, these are genuine questions, I'm not trolling, so I hope you can find the time to answer - thank in advance  

We've all heard the word Jewish Kanaph(meaning 4 corners of the Earth). I believe when the Jews say they want to control all 4 corners of the Earth, they truly mean the Four Pillars that Earth stands on...

[Nails]

so if you go past Antarctica ice walls  , will you find white walkers

[Taffin]

Wes with suicide conditioning there... 

so if you go past Antarctica ice walls  , will you find white walkers

[devilsmile]

All would be good, BUT..................... .......if there was a begining (and there is an end)... someone who creted ALL must have existed too already, so... where's that "begining" then? Maybe there is none afterall? In this scenario "it always existed" has a lot more merit imho.

Yeah true, I could go with that, makes as much and as less sense when you say god always was. But to think the first particles came to existance by just being there makes no sense neither. We can't really go any further than this here, because logically we are both either wrong or right or we could both be right or wrong.

[da_vinci]

Yeah true, I could go with that, makes as much and as less sense when you say god always was. But to think the first particles came to existance by just being there makes no sense neither. We can't really go any further than this here, because logically we are both either wrong or right or we could both be right or wrong.

Well in that case there's no need for any god, because universe "always was". And if you can't make energy dissapear (only change it's form) it kind of adds to it also. I think it's very hard for us to try to comprehend it (for me too) because we are used to see stuff in a linear fashion, "from point a to point b". If we would be able to fully "calculate" the universe, there would be nothing else to calculate anymore, maybe "big bang" is that limit where numbers end, because well... nothing else to calculate, just maybe.... another big-bang, a contraction-expansion ad infinitum cycle. Accepting the idea that it always was logically is a better "move" so to speak, because if there was any kinf of creator, that creator must've existed BEFORE creating, thus it must've been another universe or something, so we can't say that there was "nothing before", and that another universe with a super complex creator must've been created by another more complex creator in yet another universe, instead of reducing complexity we create a lot bigger complexity in this case which has no end, so pretty much we end up at the same point - infinite cycle which increases in complexity the far back we go (which should be otherwise).

[El Diablo Blanco]

Lol at the always was theory. Cop out much?  Can't explain it so just claim it was always there.  I've done that when my ex found a used condom I fucked another girl with.