Author Topic: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?  (Read 12866 times)

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2016, 09:09:23 AM »
Perhaps we (whites) have been trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.  We initially forced Africans to be slaves and now we are forcing them to be civilized.  Forcing them to fit into our society and act how we act.  It makes me wonder, with no white interference, how would they choose to behave?  How and where would they choose to live?  If given the choice, what do they really want?

That would probably be a difficult question for them to answer because...

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We, we ,we. Its not we when you bring up slavery,etc..It was a small.segment of the population along with Dixiecrats,democrats that are.to blame. They held back civil rights time and time again. They are responsible for Jim crow. They were the party of the KKK.  Now they claim to be the answer to the problem they created by guilting the rest of white america and expanding the plantation mentality for votes. Doesn't work like that and don't fall for it.


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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2016, 09:26:32 AM »

We, we ,we. Its not we when you bring up slavery,etc..It was a small.segment of the population along with Dixiecrats,democrats that are.to blame. They held back civil rights time and time again. They are responsible for Jim crow. They were the party of the KKK.  Now they claim to be the answer to the problem they created by guilting the rest of white america and expanding the plantation mentality for votes. Doesn't work like that and don't fall for it.



I agree with you but I use "we" as a blanket term hoping that people will understand the context on their own.  It's similar to saying "they" commit a lot of rapes and murders.  Not every black person is a thief or a rapist.  In debates we are pretty much forced to use we or they even though it isn't really fair to lump people together.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2016, 09:34:09 AM »
They would still be living in manure huts chasing around zebras with Spears. No advancement in technology would of been made. They owe white people everything.

Do you believe Europeans forced into slavery (at the exact same time) and transplanted from their native country would have made similar technological advances?

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2016, 09:36:51 AM »
Do you believe Europeans forced into slavery (at the exact same time) and transplanted from their native country would have made similar technological advances?

Yes.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2016, 09:42:03 AM »
Yes.

Have non-indigenous Australians made a ton of technological advances? I realize it was a penal colony but I'm not invested enough in the discussion to research instances of enslaved whites and their outcomes.

Using indentured servants wouldn't be comparing apples to apples.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2016, 09:42:15 AM »
I'm inclined to agree with you.  Is there any evidence that refutes this theory?  Anything at all?


LOL Of course, you're inclined to agree. This is what you've been building towards since your first post in this thread.

Africa was a largely closed off continent prior to the industrial revolution, similar to east Asia but to a greater extreme. The advancements in technology that took place prior to the industrial revolution weren't driven exclusively by whites. A lot of the most important technological advancements originated in asian and southeast asian countries. And these technologies advanced within a certain geographical region because of the interconnectedness of the region and its ability to trade goods and information. Africa was almost entirely removed from this. During the industrial revolution, east Asia made a dramatic shift from a closed off feudal society to an opened-up, predominately industrial society within the span of a few decades. One of the byproducts of the transatlantic slave trade is that is that western imperialists ended up harvesting south africa's natural resources. Rubber, specifically, drove the industrial revolution. So, yes, there is evidence to refute that theory. without western imperialism, south african society would probably have transformed like Asia or the middle east.

Meanwhile, the history of western imperialism is beside the point. You don't have to look any further backwards in time than today to find glaring examples of institutionalized oppression. OP didn't post about slavery. He posted about things happening currently. Whether or not you buy into the video posted, there are so many examples that fall right in line, it's ridiculous to try to chalk it up to an "imaginary" melanin deprived boogeyman.  The criminal justice system has such a destructive impact on minority communities that its only rival would be the slave trade, but the criminal justice system is not an imaginary boogeyman from the past.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2016, 09:45:15 AM »
Yeah, I think I mentioned that or are you suggesting only blacks have spoken out about its imperfections?

You said that immigrants come here and never complain and that two posters should leave if they think the country is so shit. Just because you think things are fine for you or because you think immigrants never complain about this country doesn't mean that there's no more progress to be made and everybody is required to pipe down.


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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2016, 09:55:22 AM »
You said that immigrants come here and never complain and that two posters should leave if they think the country is so shit. Just because you think things are fine for you or because you think immigrants never complain about this country doesn't mean that there's no more progress to be made and everybody is required to pipe down.



Did.you miss the part where I said it wasn't perfect  The two posters are chronic complainers. They compare America to Utopia and focus on its failures constatntly and with hostility but if they lived in most any othet place where some black immigrants come.from they would.look at the states in a.much different way. They would see opportunity where they now see oppression. They would see hope where they now see despair.

I rarely hear them say anything positive about their life experience here.  Its always pissing and moaning. Sonif its that bad...leave. See how.well your treated by your brothers elsewhere. You won't find perfection there either
 

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2016, 09:59:01 AM »

without western imperialism, south african society would probably have transformed like Asia or the middle east.


lol, wut?

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2016, 10:03:16 AM »
Did.you miss the part where I said it wasn't perfect  The two posters are chronic complainers. They compare America to Utopia but if they lived in any place where some black immigrants come.from they would.look at the states in a.much different way. They would see opportunity where they now see oppression. They would see hope where they now see despair.

I rarely hear them away anything positive about their life experience. Its always pissing and moaning.


The amount they "complain" doesn't change anything. You don't have to preface a statement with "Richard's a great guy, but..." in order for it to be valid. To me, it's unreasonable to think someone should refrain from pointing out what they consider injustice just because things could be worse.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2016, 10:06:26 AM »
lol, wut?

What part doesn't make sense to you?   ???

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2016, 10:09:31 AM »
What part doesn't make sense to you?   ???

I'm interested in hard evidence, not "it would have been great if not for western imperialism".

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2016, 10:18:18 AM »
I'm interested in hard evidence, not "it would have been great if not for western imperialism".

Short of a time machine that transports you to an alternate reality, what kind of "hard evidence" are you talking about?  ::)  I gave you specific examples  of comparable situations. Different parts of the world  developed with varying degrees of interaction with the west/"developed world". South Africa had resources that were incredibly valuable to the industrial revolution.  Without  western imperialism, that era undeniably would have been a period in which sa aligned itself with burgeoning interconnected society. Just like has happened for many other parts of the world in the modern era.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2016, 10:29:51 AM »
Short of a time machine that transports you to an alternate reality, what kind of "hard evidence" are you talking about?  ::)  

So there isn't any.  That's what you are saying?



Different parts of the world  developed with varying degrees of interaction with the west/"developed world".

 

Doesn't that kinda prove my point?  Without interacting and interconnecting with the western world there is no innovation coming out of Africa?

I'm also curious, why is it that the evil western imperialists were able to come in and roll the Africans so easily?  Was it because...



















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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2016, 10:51:20 AM »
So there isn't any.  That's what you are saying?

I very clearly asked what kind of hard evidence you're talking? What would you consider evidence that could reasonably be provided?

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Doesn't that kinda prove my point?  Without interacting and interconnecting with the western world there is no innovation coming out of Africa?

No. You and another poster made the argument that blacks "owe white poeple everything". Presumptively, despite the atrocities of the transatlantic slave trade and other forms of western imperialism. That's just a thoroughly ridiculous statement. If you're operating from the starting point that  being a part of the western world is the end-all, be-all, Africa and the western world aligning would inevitably have happened at some point. Slavery on has been massively destructive for black society. The collateral damage does not outweigh the notion that being a part of the west was worth it at any cost.
America made out way better than blacks did.


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I'm also curious, why is it that the evil western imperialists were able to come in a roll Africans so easily?  Was it because...

So, what is your point? That western society was more advanced technologically in the 1600s? How does that equate to black people owing white people everything?


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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2016, 11:09:29 AM »
The black peaceful "communities" of Peace.












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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2016, 11:20:51 AM »
The black peaceful "communities" of Peace.














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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2016, 11:31:35 AM »
I know a couple of prison guards and they were told to never eat the food the inmates eat. Mike Tyson was never the same when he got out of prison...lol

I've never heard this about the food and I've known many guards and prisoners  (actual prisoners not jail inmates). Tyson wasn't the same after Cus died. Or after the Douglas loss. Think of his battle with razor rudduck......

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2016, 11:59:38 AM »
Black peaceful communities of Peace with some peaceful black "lingo" of Peace


Respeck mah name, ain't gonna say it NO MO

If there was an issue you'd "feel" me.


Respeck mah name, stop playin' wit mah name! Put sum RESPECK on it!

I could've pulled up but i thought that was GANGSTA!

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2016, 12:14:04 PM »
I just see a young man with zero male influence, low self esteem. Probably has endured alot of emotional and psychological damage his entire life.



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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2016, 12:35:17 PM »
One of the reasons why mass black people get poisoned is because African Americans love sugar. They can not resist the temptation of a good sugar drink. Sugar drinks are used to disguise poison. Therefore easily fooled and poisoned. Sad.

How can we combat this?





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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2016, 12:46:32 PM »
They would still be living in manure huts chasing around zebras with Spears. No advancement in technology would of been made. They owe white people everything.

this is the default position used by europeans to justify their wrongdoing.

"oh they're inherently stupid and uncivilised, they couldn't have done anything without us anyway, so it doesn't matter what we did/do to them". used to justify colonisation, transatlantic slavery, genocide of native americans and australasians.

currently being used to justify european destruction of the middle east.




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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2016, 12:53:22 PM »
Because Big Pharma, the CIA etc.. have been testing drugs, running trials and testing poison on live poor populations for decades.

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Re: Why do mass poisonings always happen in "Black" communities?
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2016, 01:09:11 PM »

LOL Of course, you're inclined to agree. This is what you've been building towards since your first post in this thread.

Africa was a largely closed off continent prior to the industrial revolution, similar to east Asia but to a greater extreme. The advancements in technology that took place prior to the industrial revolution weren't driven exclusively by whites. A lot of the most important technological advancements originated in asian and southeast asian countries. And these technologies advanced within a certain geographical region because of the interconnectedness of the region and its ability to trade goods and information. Africa was almost entirely removed from this. During the industrial revolution, east Asia made a dramatic shift from a closed off feudal society to an opened-up, predominately industrial society within the span of a few decades. One of the byproducts of the transatlantic slave trade is that is that western imperialists ended up harvesting south africa's natural resources. Rubber, specifically, drove the industrial revolution. So, yes, there is evidence to refute that theory. without western imperialism, south african society would probably have transformed like Asia or the middle east.

Meanwhile, the history of western imperialism is beside the point. You don't have to look any further backwards in time than today to find glaring examples of institutionalized oppression. OP didn't post about slavery. He posted about things happening currently. Whether or not you buy into the video posted, there are so many examples that fall right in line, it's ridiculous to try to chalk it up to an "imaginary" melanin deprived boogeyman.  The criminal justice system has such a destructive impact on minority communities that its only rival would be the slave trade, but the criminal justice system is not an imaginary boogeyman from the past.

Basically, every other race and group achieved civilization and at least advanced past the bronze age......except the vast majority of Blacks.

And then in the second part of your argument it's still all white people's fault and everyone else's.

Without the whites, Indians or Asians in Africa, the region would be like a giant Liberia or Sierra Leone, almost zero infrastructure, constant tribal warfare, even lower life expectancy and less education.

Every state that got 'independence' has or is rapidly going back to its roots.

Zimbabwe is destroyed. South Africa went from largest economy in Africa to third behind Nigeria and Egypt. SA is led by corrupt thieving illiterate marxist-leninist anti-western racists who are now condemned by most of the civilized world.

Black Africans have shown they are incapable of successfully ruling a modern country. And the one's they have inherited they destroy.