What are the odds the "Far Right's" Hofer gets elected in Austria?

[phreak]

Idk.  Ich kan dat neit lesen.

I know a little German.

[Yamcha]

No orthodox Moozie has any desire to assimilate into a host country's culture, period.

Islam is a warring ideology/religion that commands the faithful to strive in every way possible to achieve global domination.

It's a virus. And it's disgusting.

Moozies are supposed to endeavour to be like Mohamed, Allah's "perfect" Muslim. Mohamed was a pedophilic mass murderer.

Fact.

I am not a moozie, but I can attest to this! FACT 

[drkaje]

That is the opposite of all of the immigrants I have worked with / dealt with otherwise.

Someone who immigrates here to advance orthodox ideals has no interest in assimilating into American culture. That's not the same as passing a citizenship test and getting benefits.

I should have been more specific.

[Irongrip400]

http://archive.is/JSDRD

What now, Austria?

Vote rigging?

[_aj_]

Vote rigging?

146% of eligible voters cast ballots? Nothing fishy about that. The US democrat "consultants" are obviously helping the progs in the EU.

[SuperTed]

Whether immigration is beneficial to a country or not will be dependent on who the immigrants are and where they are coming from.
For instance, I don't think anyone can deny that bringing in a million Japanese migrants into a nation would yield vastly different results than bringing in a million Somali migrants.

[drkaje]

Whether immigration is beneficial to a country or not will be dependent on who the immigrants are and where they are coming from.
For instance, I don't think anyone can deny that bringing in a million Japanese migrants into a nation would yield vastly different results than bringing in a million Somali migrants.

Neither would be good.

It's a question of who would feel the effects. A million Japanese would probably outcompete whites and raise property values. A million Somali refugees would be a drain on the system and make shitty areas shittier.

[SuperTed]

Neither would be good.

It's a question of who would feel the effects. A million Japanese would probably outcompete whites and raise property values. A million Somali refugees would be a drain on the system and make shitty areas shittier.

That's a fair point. I was just looking at it purely from an economic perspective and the long term implications.

[drkaje]

That's a fair point. I was just looking at it purely from an economic perspective and the long term implications.

Both would affect the middle class.

People would probably rather have jobs and pay taxes than compete against an influx of first-world workers.

I'm probably making too many assumptions about the Japanese being smarter than Americans, not having their own Jindus, and ignoring organized crime issues.

[SuperTed]

Both would affect the middle class.

People would probably rather have jobs and pay taxes than compete against an influx of first-world workers.

I'm probably making too many assumptions about the Japanese being smarter than Americans, not having their own Jindus, and ignoring organized crime issues.

I'd agree that all immigrants will come with their problems, especially when arriving in large numbers. However, I think certain ethnic groups may have the pro's outweighing the con's while it will be opposite for others.

You can see it in the UK. Pretty much every ethnic group has a big community here. However, the impact these groups have had in the UK differ quite considerably.

[_bruce_]

Currently shit is going down because of rigged votes. It doesn't get any better - the establishment is making more enemies by the day.
But one has to be realistic, nobody but the common peasant being present in the streets can bring any real change.

[Fortress]

Nationalism is a very good thing.

With too many representing too many differing "ways of life", the challenges to accommodate everybody become beyond impractical.

In trying to keep everyone happy, the end result is no one is happy.

Having said this, sure, very select immigration can be beneficial. IF the immigrants share a culture "in the general ballpark" of the host nation's.

Islam is almost literally the opposite of Western ideals. It's a "religion" unlike any other, in that it comes with a ready-made "divine" political system and a commanded mandate to topple anything that isn't Islam.

No matter how friendly a Muslim might be, make no mistake. If he's truly an orthodox, practicing Muslim, he cherishes the idea that, one day, his kind will hold triumph with their sky wizard over any and all lands.

The Qu'ran is a tome of extensive hate speech and intolerance. It's a directive to enslave and kill.

This is all fact.

[drkaje]

Nationalism is a very good thing.

With too many representing too many differing "ways of life", the challenges to accommodate everybody become beyond impractical.

In trying to keep everyone happy, the end result is no one is happy.

Having said this, sure, very select immigration can be beneficial. IF the immigrants share a culture "in the general ballpark" of the host nation's.

Islam is almost literally the opposite of Western ideals. It's a "religion" unlike any other, in that it comes with a ready-made "divine" political system and a commanded mandate to topple anything that isn't Islam.

No matter how friendly a Muslim might be, make no mistake. If he's truly an orthodox, practicing Muslim, he cherishes the idea that, one day, his kind will hold triumph with their sky wizard over any and all lands.

The Qu'ran is a tome of extensive hate speech and intolerance. It's a directive to enslave and kill.

This is all fact.

Other religious texts have similar intolerance.

[SuperTed]

Other religious texts have similar intolerance.

Perhaps, but Islam is rather unique in a number of ways when compared to the other major world religions.

[drkaje]

Perhaps, but Islam is rather unique in a number of ways when compared to the other major world religions.

I don't trust any fundamentalist's agenda.

[SuperTed]

I don't trust any fundamentalist's agenda.

Neither do I, but Islamic fundamentalism is the most proactive and prominent type of religious fundamentalism that exists today. I feel part of the problem is this misguided belief that many have that Islam is "just like any other religion".

[Fortress]

I don't trust any fundamentalist's agenda.

Of course. All religion is damaging and dangerous.

However, unlike other religions, Islam is as much a political ideology as it is a religious faith. As well, it is an extraordinarily militant system of belief that, contrary to the spin doctors' ramblings, leaves zero room for interpretation.

Christians, for instance, are taught to love. The Qu'ran commands Allah's followers to hate Christians and Jews. Homosexuals. Unbelievers.

That these people are inferior. Not to be befriended. To be enslaved or murdered.

That apostates are to be killed, too.

That Sharia law, god's law, is the "perfect" political system.

[drkaje]

We'd have Biblical law in the US if our own fundies had their way.

[Irongrip400]

Uh oh! Will anything come of this? Under 16 and illegals voted in the election!?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/08/austria-far-right-launches-challenge-to-presidential-election-re/

[Irongrip400]

Is Western Civilization rolling over? Are "we" finally on the "wrong side"?

[Irongrip400]

Boom! The high court annulled the election results due to improper handling of mail in votes. Will the far right nationalist machine triumph in Austria too?

[The Scott]

We'd have Biblical law in the US if our own fundies had their way.

You are being silly.  Not ridiculous.  Silly.  As in like a child, silly.

[Erik C]

Boom! The high court annulled the election results do to improper handling of mail in votes. Will the far right nationalist machine triumph in Austria too?

Let's Hope So!

[io856]

People can immigrate all they like to other countries, gung ho about the ideals of the host country. You might be perfectly fine to enter the "land of opportunity", make it, do well and live the immigrant dream.

Then babies come along and they want to protect them through the ideology that they know. Babies, children change everything... Ask any parent.

Once the daughter starts to show skin, the mum and dad doesn't like it. Once the son starts to drink, watch internet porn and taught secular, airy fairy ideologies in school, mum and dad doesn't like it. Of course the "fall" or "potential fall" of their children is because of the "ills of western civilization"?

What is the answer to protect their children once already in Western Civilization?

• Sharia Law
• Sharia Law zonings
• The end goal of an Islamic state

All an afterthought, an afterthought of the government immigration policy, an afterthought of the parents and an afterthought of society overall.

When the second generation find themselves exposed to the "ills of western society" it is not their self control to blame. The reason is, to their heartfelt belief, the very ethos and nature of the society they live in. They succumb to vice and the solution for many second generation muslims particularly males is not personal development and overcoming vice. A young male having his heart broken by Americano women furthers the drive towards living under sharia law. The powerful male competitive drive is then channeled into furthering the Islamic agenda. Islam has no room for convincing others through rhetoric, it relies on submission, submission of all. The solution of many second generation muslims is the eradication of vice and social ills through radicalized Islamic beliefs. The conquering of the very same system that invited their family. The system of "evil".

The intent of Islam could be seen as beautiful, peaceful and harmonious.

• Meditation five times a day
• Ramadan from young age teaching self control. i.e. learn how to not eat that burger
• Women and men not living in perpetual lust and chase for each other but directing focus towards child rearing, society and family
• Reduction of male competitive drive to secure beautiful females. What beautiful females? That ankle you saw last week? Your aunty?
• You fuck up? well theres absolutely no tolerance in some aspects of Islam. So everyone follows the system

I'm sure theres a lot more... bare with me Islamic getbiggers.

But, its it possible to achieve such harmony, peace and beauty without complete involvement by society? Not really, the iron fist of Islam is required to make it work. Does Western Civilization want that iron fist is the question...? Is it prepared to deal with the iron fist collecting it's weight within their neighborhoods?

[Hypertrophy]

People can immigrate all they like to other countries, gung ho about the ideals of the host country. You might be perfectly fine to enter the "land of opportunity", make it, do well and live the immigrant dream.

Then babies come along and they want to protect them through the ideology that they know. Babies, children change everything... Ask any parent.

Once the daughter starts to show skin, the mum and dad doesn't like it. Once the son starts to drink, watch internet porn and be taught secular airy fairy ideologies in school, mum and dad doesn't like it. Of course the "fall" or "potential fall" of their children is because of the "ills of western civilization"?

What is the answer to protect their children once already in Western Civilization?
Sharia Law
Sharia Law zonings
The end goal of an Islamic state;
All an afterthought, an afterthought of the government immigration policy, an afterthought of the parents and an afterthought of society overall.

When the second generation find themselves exposed to the "ills of western society" it is not their self control to blame. The reason is, to their heartfelt belief, the very ethos and nature of the society they live in. They succumb to vice and the solution for many second generation muslims particularly males is not personal development and overcoming vice. The solution of many second generation muslims is the eradication of vice through radicalized Islamic beliefs. The conquering of the very same system that invited their family. The system of "evil".

The second generation also are ideal candidates for terrorist recruitment: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/