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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2016, 09:57:32 PM »
dude had iron will to live maybe him being an ignorant muslim helped
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2016, 09:59:52 PM »
Didnt frazier once say fuck ali and and that at the end he won the battle and war because he wasnt the one braindead with parkensons
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2016, 10:00:45 PM »
Simply the GOAT.

Stood for more outside the ring than any other athlete in any other sport
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2016, 10:04:15 PM »
Quote from: Nails on June 03, 2016, 09:59:52 PM
Didnt frazier once say fuck ali and and that at the end he won the battle and war because he wasnt the one braindead with parkensons

yes he did  frazier hated that piece of shit

ali said alot of low things about frazier  back in the 70's
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2016, 10:05:44 PM »
Quote from: Nails on June 03, 2016, 09:51:59 PM
Last time i recall seeing ALI was at a summer olympics holding a ceremony tourch , almost put out the flame with all the shaking, that had to be like 20 years ago, they really kept him away from the cameras, he must of been almoat vegetable state for several years now


i remember one time he was at a fight they put the cam on him and he was passed out  guy has been in bad shape for over 30 years
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2016, 10:09:26 PM »
PiP Ali


Was he really a muslium ? Or just did it because he  wanted to follow malcolm X ???
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2016, 10:10:18 PM »
Ali, in his fight against George Foreman was greatness personified.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2016, 10:12:33 PM »
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2016, 10:13:02 PM »
 :'(
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2016, 10:16:07 PM »
Quote from: oldschoolfan on June 03, 2016, 10:05:44 PM
i remember one time he was at a fight they put the cam on him and he was passed out  guy has been in bad shape for over 30 years
Yeah,it was said Ali suffered from fatigue and tiredness and short term memory loss,along with the more obvious motor deficits.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2016, 10:24:00 PM »
Quote from: fredrollon on June 03, 2016, 10:16:07 PM
Yeah,it was said Ali suffered from fatigue and tiredness and short term memory loss,along with the more obvious motor deficits.

fedrol here is the thing i have watched the sport for a long time 

ali took a ton of beatings in the 70's  even most of the fights he wont he took a beating alot of them were close decisions to

the guy really wasnt that smart.  lived the past 30 years as a immobile vegetable and was broke till he sold the rights to his name.

but people kiss his ass as some genius, foreman and holmes were much smarter and did better with there money and lives  than ali

holmes actually ran businesses  ali never did.  ali got divorced like 4 times.   

but the media portrays ali as some all great saint,  formean and holmes did much better after boxing than ali did.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2016, 10:24:38 PM »
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2016, 10:39:41 PM »
also here is a link    for were ali sold his name

he was a broke ass  punch drunk champ who had to do this cause he was broke

foreman and holmes were much more savy than ali, but they didnt have the media and public kissing there  ass    as some kind of saint to humanity


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/apr/13/usa.sport
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2016, 10:54:20 PM »
Quote from: Marty Champions on June 03, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
dude had iron will too live maybe him being an ignorant muslim helped
too much iron killed  him
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2016, 11:10:24 PM »
BIP  :(
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2016, 12:31:16 AM »
Quote from: fredrollon on June 03, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
This is a one fo the favourite pics of Ali and Foreman, together. 1972,I believe....



That's a great shot. Foreman looks uber cool there.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2016, 12:33:34 AM »
Its refreshing to see muslims travel to afterlife solo. They generally take a few folks with them.


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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2016, 12:34:31 AM »
Quote from: Nails on June 03, 2016, 10:09:26 PM
PiP Ali


Was he really a muslium ? Or just did it because he  wanted to be like malcolm X ???

He became a Muslim via the Nation of Islam but later left the group and embraced Sufism - a more mystical, liberal and spiritual form of Islam that itself, isn't particular mainstream.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2016, 01:31:52 AM »
Quote from: Nails on June 03, 2016, 09:59:52 PM
Didnt frazier once say fuck ali and and that at the end he won the battle and war because he wasnt the one braindead with parkensons

He wasn't that blunt about it, but yes he did. If pushed he'd admit that he was happy, and thought that it was his beatings helped Ali get to where he was at, and in that sense he was the winner.

They were friendly before those fights, and Ali was an absolute asshole to him during, and a bit after. Also given the fact that it happened during a time in the prime Civil Rights era was extra hurtful to Frazier. Ali's "Gorilla" speeches were one of the big straws that helped break the camel's back -

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1:25 - onward.

Anyway, RIP to Ali. Whatever is to be said about him, he was an interesting man in an interesting era.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2016, 02:10:01 AM »
RIP
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2016, 02:24:14 AM »
The Best... Period...
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2016, 03:05:46 AM »
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2016, 03:20:43 AM »
The thrilla in manilla doc is fantastic, and maybe one of the best documentaries of all time. I'm definitely more of a Frazier fan, as Ali was a bit of an asshole human being imo. I do believe Ali apologized later in life for how he acted towards Joe, but you gotta wonder how much of being a weak cripple was a factor in that humility. Still, one of the  greatest athletes of all time.
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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2016, 03:24:02 AM »
I didn't realize it was up on Youtube, if anyone wants to see a good documentary on the crux of the Ali - Frazier feud, this one is fantastic -

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Re: RIP Cassius
« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2016, 03:29:27 AM »
Quote from: fredrollon on June 03, 2016, 10:16:07 PM
Yeah,it was said Ali suffered from fatigue and tiredness and short term memory loss,along with the more obvious motor deficits.

Symptoms of Parkinson's decease, plus this decease can also cause dementia.
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