Fake/underdosed gear: what would you do?

[phreak]

Since last Friday I have started my first real blast. Perhaps it is still too early to draw conclusions, but let me say that I am certainly not feeling like I imagined I would. Currently using over 1.5 gram of test weekly, plus 50 mg winstrol daily, plus tren a and mast p. I feel... like nothing has changed. No strength increase, no weight gain (good), but also no acne (which I usually already get when switching from 250 mg/w to 500 mg/w of test e), testes remaining fairly plump, no pro-sexual changes at all. In short, I've probably been scammed.

This must have happened to most/all of you before. If so, how did you deal with it? Not looking for stories on how dealers were anally molested with a spiked baseball bat, although they can be entertaining. Actually looking for your gear strategy: Did you just increase the CCs injected, in the hope of making the most of what was (perhaps) in there? Did you instantly quit, throw everything out and go directly to a short PCT? Did you buy more, but from a different source?

[dj181]

is everything from the same company/lab?

with Ace you should feel that shit immediately ie. night sweats, insomnia, wanting to cave someones head in 

do you have or know someone in the know who you could get the stuff lab tested for you?

back when i was running orals only my supplier was even curious himself about some of the var he had gotten me so he had the connections to run a test on it and it can back legit

[phreak]

is everything from the same company/lab?

with Ace you should feel that shit immediately ie. night sweats, insomnia, wanting to cave someones head in  

do you have or know someone in the know who you could get the stuff lab tested for you?

back when i was running orals only my supplier was even curious himself about some of the var he had gotten me so he had the connections to run a test on it and it can back legit

Bit of a mixed bag. The tren/mast and test prop are from Anabolic Technologies. Their test e has worked for me the past year, so I trusted them. Winstrol is EPL, have had some positive experiences with them. Deca is Golden Gear, which I used for test e before switching to Anabolic Technologies.

But no, nothing. Sleep is not great, but it never is for me. If I really look for things, I may have a tiny bit of facial flushing. But that could be constipation.


Have to say that this is making me consider taking the plunge and getting into the world of home brewing. Then again: wouldn't trust those sources then either.


I think it's back to (supposed) HG stuff for me. But then blasting is just too expensive.

[youandme]

I think it's back to (supposed) HG stuff for me. But then blasting is just too expensive.

Situation sucks, sorry to hear.

You can always do HG route and blast with UG.

Plenty of labs being tested nowadays, just go with the more known.  http://anaboliclab.com/

[Disco187]

Well I have a lot of experience with those compounds now.

for me test takes a while for me to notice a dam thing
winstrol def a little bit also, i would saya good two solid wks
tren is about a wk for me, then i start noticing the lack of steady sleep and the swetting


I am sure some will disagree but be a little bit more patient...

[equipoise]

Since last Friday I have started my first real blast. Perhaps it is still too early to draw conclusions, but let me say that I am certainly not feeling like I imagined I would. Currently using over 1.5 gram of test weekly, plus 50 mg winstrol daily, plus tren a and mast p. I feel... like nothing has changed. No strength increase, no weight gain (good), but also no acne (which I usually already get when switching from 250 mg/w to 500 mg/w of test e), testes remaining fairly plump, no pro-sexual changes at all. In short, I've probably been scammed.

This must have happened to most/all of you before. If so, how did you deal with it? Not looking for stories on how dealers were anally molested with a spiked baseball bat, although they can be entertaining. Actually looking for your gear strategy: Did you just increase the CCs injected, in the hope of making the most of what was (perhaps) in there? Did you instantly quit, throw everything out and go directly to a short PCT? Did you buy more, but from a different source?

if you have the cash just buy from another source?

[spiro]

How long has it been?

[phreak]

How long has it been?

Today is day 7. Perhaps a bit impatient, but I've been led to believe short esters would be noticable in 1-3 days at most. While I still notice nothing.

[phreak]

if you have the cash just buy from another source?

I'm GetBig wealthy so that's always an option. I just have trust issues now.

[dj181]

I'm GetBig wealthy so that's always an option. I just have trust issues now.

fuck!!! so after rejecting your shot of vodka i should have hit you up for some sponsorship cash, if i only knew.....

[KLEINE]

Bit of a mixed bag. The tren/mast and test prop are from Anabolic Technologies. Their test e has worked for me the past year, so I trusted them. Winstrol is EPL, have had some positive experiences with them. Deca is Golden Gear, which I used for test e before switching to Anabolic Technologies.

But no, nothing. Sleep is not great, but it never is for me. If I really look for things, I may have a tiny bit of facial flushing. But that could be constipation.


Have to say that this is making me consider taking the plunge and getting into the world of home brewing. Then again: wouldn't trust those sources then either.


I think it's back to (supposed) HG stuff for me. But then blasting is just too expensive.

If you feel nothing, just trow that GG and AT gear away.  GG was good, 5 years ago...

[Thong Maniac]

Situation sucks, sorry to hear.

You can always do HG route and blast with UG.

Plenty of labs being tested nowadays, just go with the more known.  http://anaboliclab.com/

i really question these results. 90 percent seem to show the actual compound with correct if not higher doses. also, only some of them mention heavy metal or microbiologic contamination. almost like they only post the metal and micro issue if it has none. not one vial tested on there shows any contamination.

also, what american kid is sending full vials of juice out to get tested (im assuming taking another risk to ship illegal drugs BACK overseas again where this lab is). who does that?

my guess is, they are getting these vials from the manufacturer (in EU) who is sending cream of the crop shit

this aint testing the shit joe blow from america is ordering.

edit: nvm i see how they operate. i still think these results are way to high.

[chokeslam]

In the past I would keep pinning gear that I suspected of being underdosed. Now I would simply chuck it out. I am not rich by any stretch, but I'm beginning to realize that very small chance of a large problem is enough to warrant a visit to the garbage can.

You don't want to be that guy in a horror story that got a big abscess that had to get lanced or anything. It just isn't worth it.

[phreak]

In the past I would keep pinning gear that I suspected of being underdosed. Now I would simply chuck it out. I am not rich by any stretch, but I'm beginning to realize that very small chance of a large problem is enough to warrant a visit to the garbage can.

You don't want to be that guy in a horror story that got a big abscess that had to get lanced or anything. It just isn't worth it.

That's the decision I made. Tossed it all except the winstrol, and bought more test e that I know is good to go. Now I'm only on 1 gram of test e per week and feeling good. Strength going up very nicely, weight is stable, and I only need  half a tab of adex every 4-5 days or so.

[herraisland]

7 days are nothing... i usually feel the gains after 2 week. i have once felt the tren same day.

[chokeslam]

That's the decision I made. Tossed it all except the winstrol, and bought more test e that I know is good to go. Now I'm only on 1 gram of test e per week and feeling good. Strength going up very nicely, weight is stable, and I only need  half a tab of adex every 4-5 days or so.

Oral or injectable winny?

I wouldn't toss any orals unless I had really bad trouble controlling estrogen and if was affecting my nipples or something. Thankfully I don't, so I'd just take the orals even if they were suspect. Questionable injectables go straight in the trash, especially anything water based like winny. I don't like anything water based even from good labs. No reason to put yourself at risk using anything water based.

[phreak]

Oral or injectable winny?

I wouldn't toss any orals unless I had really bad trouble controlling estrogen and if was affecting my nipples or something. Thankfully I don't, so I'd just take the orals even if they were suspect. Questionable injectables go straight in the trash, especially anything water based like winny. I don't like anything water based even from good labs. No reason to put yourself at risk using anything water based.

Good point, I did keep the winny because they are orals. Will try those later when I've been cruising for a few months.