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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #475 on: June 13, 2016, 06:18:38 PM »
He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316

so it was gay lovers quarrel  ??? 



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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #476 on: June 13, 2016, 06:21:50 PM »
He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316

His behavior can be summed by the defense mechanism, Reaction Formation

"An important method of transforming uncomfortable or unacceptable feelings into something more manageable is 'reaction formation', which is the superficial adoption and exaggeration of ideas and impulses that are diametrically opposed to one's own."
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« Reply #477 on: June 13, 2016, 06:22:44 PM »
so it was gay lovers quarrel  ??? 




I believe self hating gay because he wasn't fabulous and no body want to fuck him.  
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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #478 on: June 13, 2016, 06:25:11 PM »
I believe self hating gay because he wasn't fabulous and no body want to fuck him.  


Kind of went Colonel Fitts in  American Beauty after he stepped into the dark side
 

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #479 on: June 13, 2016, 06:43:08 PM »
Yes. Have you read the New Testament? Era of grace?

Yes, I have.  Nice story.  Not gospel fact.

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« Reply #480 on: June 13, 2016, 06:46:55 PM »
Yes, I have.  Nice story.  Not gospel fact.
Explain your statement
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« Reply #481 on: June 13, 2016, 06:48:45 PM »
He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.

I figured that as soon as his father said he got very upset when he saw two guys kissing.  Straight guys comfortable in their own sexuality don't get violently upset by other people's personal displays of affection.

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #482 on: June 13, 2016, 06:52:46 PM »
Explain your statement

A story based on a few historical facts, embellished with tales of the supernatural.  Fiction, Fantasy.

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #483 on: June 13, 2016, 06:56:04 PM »
His behavior can be summed by the defense mechanism, Reaction Formation

"An important method of transforming uncomfortable or unacceptable feelings into something more manageable is 'reaction formation', which is the superficial adoption and exaggeration of ideas and impulses that are diametrically opposed to one's own."
Well I think he may have overreacted a little.
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« Reply #484 on: June 13, 2016, 06:59:29 PM »
Allahpuke was likely not gay. I'd suggest he visited the club to both stoke his fires of hatred (motivate himself) and scope out its general layout.

At one point a colleague heard him say he hoped his home would be stormed by law enforcement and wife (ex) and children assaulted, so he could martyr himself.

He wanted to make a statement for Islam and ramped himself up for an event.

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« Reply #485 on: June 13, 2016, 07:00:14 PM »
For 3 years?

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« Reply #486 on: June 13, 2016, 07:03:01 PM »
Well I think he may have overreacted a little.

The defense mechanism "Reaction Formation" doesn't state the extent to which someone may inhibit impulses or wishes for more appropriate actions (in their worldview), i.e., it doesn't state how strongly the reaction formation will be manifested. In some people who are covertly gay, it may be manifested by hateful speech or behavior toward gay people (protesting, etc). In more extreme cases of RF, they kill 50 people.
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« Reply #487 on: June 13, 2016, 07:05:01 PM »
The defense mechanism "Reaction Formation" doesn't state the extent to which someone may inhibit impulses or wishes for more appropriate actions (in their worldview), i.e., it doesn't state how strongly the reaction formation will be manifested. In some people who are covertly gay, it may be manifested by hateful speech or behavior toward gay people (protesting, etc). In more extreme cases of RF, they kill 50 people.
So Hitler just had a bad case of reaction formation?
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« Reply #488 on: June 13, 2016, 07:05:18 PM »
For 3 years?

Sure. The intensity of hatred and fury of belief is often elevated to homicidal levels over several years.

Or maybe he was just a closeted gay. And being a filthy Muscum, these impulses were unacceptable. He decided to appease both his esteem and his sky wizard by taking out homosexuals, knowing he'd be done dead, too. He'd achieve martyrdom and relieve his feelings of personal disgust.

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« Reply #489 on: June 13, 2016, 07:07:39 PM »
Allahpuke was likely not gay. I'd suggest he visited the club to both stoke his fires of hatred (motivate himself) and scope out its general layout.

At one point a colleague heard him say he hoped his home would be stormed by law enforcement and wife (ex) and children assaulted, so he could martyr himself.

He wanted to make a statement for Islam and ramped himself up for an event.

I may disagree with this, though its impossible to say if he was gay or not. Some people may hate who they are so much, that they go to extreme lengths to cover it up. This is not uncommon in the African-American scene, where gay black men will visit gay bars or clubs at night. However, during the day, they make take on extreme forms of a macho attitude, in order to cover up the fact that they are gay. Its called "Down-Low."

So, to say he was LIKELY not gay, I believe, is incorrect. I mean, I don't know if he was gay or not. I guess we will never know, however, it is entirely plausible that he was.
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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #490 on: June 13, 2016, 07:24:25 PM »
Or maybe he was just a closeted gay. And being a filthy Muscum, these impulses were unacceptable. He decided to appease both his esteem and his sky wizard by taking out homosexuals, knowing he'd be done dead, too. He'd achieve martyrdom and relieve his feelings of personal disgust.

This seems likely to me.

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #491 on: June 13, 2016, 07:29:22 PM »
Some people may hate who they are so much, that they go to extreme lengths to cover it up. This is not uncommon in the African-American scene, where gay black men will visit gay bars or clubs at night. However, during the day, they make take on extreme forms of a macho attitude, in order to cover up the fact that they are gay. Its called "Down-Low."

congressmen and pastors too.  condemn gays by day, grindr by night

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #492 on: June 14, 2016, 05:27:38 AM »

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #493 on: June 14, 2016, 05:30:40 AM »
The ex-wife of Orlando mass killer Omar Mateen claimed Monday that she believed he was homosexual — as it was revealed that he frequented the gay nightclub where he staged the nation’s worst massacre in modern times.

Sitora Yusufiy, who was married to Mateen in 2009 for three months, made the shocking claim on Brazilian television station SBT Brazil.

Her fiancé, Marco Dias, speaking in Portuguese on her behalf, said that Yusufiy believed that Mateen had “gay tendencies” and that his father had called him gay in front of her. Dias also claimed “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”

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The bombshell came as a male former classmate of Omar Mateen said he had been asked out romantically by the mass killer, who reportedly was a virtual regular at the Pulse nightclub, having visited it more than a dozen times over the years.

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The former classmate said he would hang out with Mateen, hitting gay bars after attending class at Indian River Community College police academy in 2006 — and one time Mateen asked him out “romantically,” according to the Palm Beach Post.

“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate told the paper.

The classmate told the paper he thought the killer, who pledged allegiance to ISIS before killing 49 at the Pulse gay nightclub, was gay and in the closet.

The classmate’s claims came after reports emerged that Mateen frequented the club for years before Sunday’s massacre.

“It’s the same guy,” Chris Callen, a drag queen who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press. “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Callen’s husband, Ty Smith, recalled seeing Mateen being escorted drunk from the club.

“Sometimes he . . . would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” he told the Orlando Sentinel.

At least four Pulse club-goers remembered seeing Mateen at least a dozen times in the past. But authorities said they had no further information when asked about the sightings on Monday. NBC reported that the FBI was looking into his alleged club visits.

“[He’d get] really, really drunk,” Smith told the Canadian Press. “He couldn’t drink when he was at home — around his wife, or family. His father was really strict . . . He used to bitch about it.”

Callen and Smith said they both stopped speaking to Mateen when he threatened them with a knife, after someone made a joke about religion.

“He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen explained. “He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn out.”

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They also shot down claims that Mateen had snapped after seeing two men kissing each other in public.

“That’s bullcrap, right there. No offense. That’s straight-up crap. He’s been around us,” Smith said. “Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar…He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?”

Kevin West, another regular at Pulse, told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen used gay dating apps on a regular basis and even messaged him on the gay dating app, Jack’d.

He even saw Mateen an hour before the shooting.

“He walked directly past me. I said, ‘Hey,’ and he turned and said, ‘Hey,’ ” and nodded his head, recalled West. “I could tell by the eyes [it was him].”

One Orlando man, who refused to be named, told MSNBC that he had seen photos of Mateen on several gay dating apps, including Grindr, Adam4Adam, and Jack’d. He claimed that at least two of the man’s friends had been contacted by Mateen on the apps in the past.

“He was very creepy in his messages, and I blocked him immediately,” the man said.

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #494 on: June 14, 2016, 09:01:17 AM »

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #495 on: June 14, 2016, 10:04:26 AM »

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« Reply #496 on: June 14, 2016, 10:52:48 AM »
I just leaned that my bro and his family were in Orlando at Disneyworld last weekend.
Fuckng scary this loser almost shot up Disneyworld. :(
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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #497 on: June 14, 2016, 11:32:39 AM »


Well then what is this whores solution?

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Re: Gun attack on Florida gay club.
« Reply #499 on: June 14, 2016, 12:19:51 PM »
Very convenient to say he was gay (and probably had self-loathing issues) as that would take attention away from him being a member of or affiliated with ISIS.

the killer had used gay dating app:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-20160613-snap-story.html