NY Daily News Blames NRA For Orlando Shooting

[Dos Equis]

Ridiculous.  Makes about as much as sense as blaming the Democrat party because the shooter was apparently a registered Democrat.  Stupid.

NY Daily News Blames NRA For Orlando Shooting
Christine Rousselle
Posted: Jun 13, 2016
NY Daily News Blames NRA For Orlando Shooting



True to form, the New York Daily News isn't holding back in their June 13 edition, and is blaming the NRA for the terrorist attack at a gay nightclub in Orlando.
 
The attack was carried out by Omar Mateen, who pledged allegiance to ISIS before storming the nightclub. His guns were purchased legally.

Naturally, people were quick to call out the NYDN for their absurd accusation, noting that someone who was intent on mass murder likely wouldn't have been deterred by gun laws.
 
. . .
 
When someone rapes a woman, we put the blame squarely on the rapist. When someone stabs or strangles someone, the blame is placed on the murderer. Yet for some reason, when a man who confesses allegiance to ISIS goes on a rampage and murders 50 people at a nightclub, it's not the shooter's fault--it's the NRA's.

Insane.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/06/13/ny-daily-news-blames-nra-for-orlando-shooting-n2177094

[240 is Back]

IF the dude was still on the terror watch list, as coach falsely claimed, then yes, the NRA + congressional efforts to allow watchlist folks to buy guns (Opposed by famous liberals like obama and trump).... they'd be a part of the blame.

The FBI cleared him.   After 2 investigations.   He was legal to buy the guns.   Maybe they should blame the FBI for going so easy on them.

[Soul Crusher]

Typical incompetent ignorant liberal NYDN

[headhuntersix]

IF the dude was still on the terror watch list, as coach falsely claimed, then yes, the NRA + congressional efforts to allow watchlist folks to buy guns (Opposed by famous liberals like obama and trump).... they'd be a part of the blame.

The FBI cleared him.   After 2 investigations.   He was legal to buy the guns.   Maybe they should blame the FBI for going so easy on them.

What the fuck is all of that drivel.  The NRA would be to blame? How the fuck would the NRA be to blame. If this guy  committed a crime that suspended his 2nd Amendment rights then sure..no guns for him but the same laws that apply to you and me apply to him. The libs would love your view to be law. Who makes up the more then 1 million people on the watch list? Some asshole we have to hope has a wide view of the Constitution, loves guns and hates muslims and other shitbags. However when libs are in power we know that's not the case. Please stop telling us your in any way shape or form conservative. 

[240 is Back]

What the fuck is all of that drivel.  The NRA would be to blame? How the fuck would the NRA be to blame. 

NRA + Senate Repubs = stopped the bill which prevents those on terror watchlist from buying guns.

Not that it would have stopped this shooter - turns out he was taken OFF the list in 2014/2015 after 2 FBI investigations cleared him.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-blocks-bill-stop-terrorists-buying-guns

enate Republicans rejected a bill that aims to stop suspected terrorists from legally buying guns, on Thursday.  The vote came a day after at least 14 people were killed during the San Bernardino massacre in California by two suspects, including a woman said to have pledged allegiance to ISIS.

The NRA did not respond to a request on Friday for comment. But the gun rights lobby group told MSBC last month it wants to ensure that Americans who are wrongly on the terrorist list are are afforded their constitutional right to due process.

[tonymctones]

You can deny someon their constitutional rights without due process...I know you're all for restricting rights but the law would not be upheld

[240 is Back]

You can deny someon their constitutional rights without due process...I know you're all for restricting rights but the law would not be upheld

Would you have been okay with this shooter being allowed to buy rifles while the FBI was investigating him?   It was over 2 years they were all up in his shit, trying to find something.   He cannot fly - but he can buy a dozen AR-15s? 

You are okay with that?

[TuHolmes]

Would you have been okay with this shooter being allowed to buy rifles while the FBI was investigating him?   It was over 2 years they were all up in his shit, trying to find something.   He cannot fly - but he can buy a dozen AR-15s? 

You are okay with that?

I am.

You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Period.

Why are people so quick to erode civil liberties and due process?

[Coach is Back!]

IF the dude was still on the terror watch list, as coach falsely claimed, then yes, the NRA + congressional efforts to allow watchlist folks to buy guns (Opposed by famous liberals like obama and trump).... they'd be a part of the blame.

The FBI cleared him.   After 2 investigations.   He was legal to buy the guns.   Maybe they should blame the FBI for going so easy on them.

As usual, you're a liar.

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 12, 2016, 09:38:46 PM
He was investigated twice, and the FBI found nothing and dropped it.  2013 and 2014.  He was cleared.

You're kinda ignorant on this issue, aren't you?


How is a person "stopped" when the FBI does its job and discovers nothing?   Explain.

Why don't you provide a link to that since you've been on since it happened trying to find someone that would post some propaganda for you to exploit. Cleared my ass. If you're on a terrorist watch list or on "A" watch list you're never cleared otherwise him being investigated would have been a non-issue. For fucks sake, use some goddamn commonsense for just a second....one fucking second!!

[240 is Back]

As usual, you're a liar.

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 12, 2016, 09:38:46 PM
He was investigated twice, and the FBI found nothing and dropped it.  2013 and 2014.  He was cleared.

You're kinda ignorant on this issue, aren't you?


How is a person "stopped" when the FBI does its job and discovers nothing?   Explain.

Why don't you provide a link to that since you've been on since it happened trying to find someone that would post some propaganda for you to exploit. Cleared my ass. If you're on a terrorist watch list or on "A" watch list you're never cleared otherwise him being investigated would have been a non-issue. For fucks sake, use some goddamn commonsense for just a second....one fucking second!!

They removed him from the terror watch list.   

You don't really understand how the list works, do you?  It's not the people they're aware of... 

Please, read up on it.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Screening_Database

The FBI had 2 investigations on him.   They closed those 2 investigations.  They still knew who he was, but he was no longer on the terror watch list.


Coach, when you use 4 curse words in 1 sentence, we all kinda realize 1) you're wrong 2) you're angry that you're wrong 3) you kinda don't understand things here.

[Coach is Back!]

They removed him from the terror watch list.  

You don't really understand how the list works, do you?  It's not the people they're aware of...  

Please, read up on it.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Screening_Database

The FBI had 2 investigations on him.   They closed those 2 investigations.  They still knew who he was, but he was no longer on the terror watch list.


Coach, when you use 4 curse words in 1 sentence, we all kinda realize 1) you're wrong 2) you're angry that you're wrong 3) you kinda don't understand things here.

You're an arm chair expert. Tell us how it works. You lied about what I said. You sit behind a computer and Google shit all day. One day if you're ever out here I can introduce you too a couple of people that tell you straight from the horses mouth.

[240 is Back]

You're an arm chair expert. Tell us how it works. You lied about what I said. You sit behind a computer and Google shit all day. One day if you're ever out here I can introduce you too a couple of people that tell you straight from the horses mouth.

You didn't like what the FBI spokesman had to say - so you accused the LA times of faking that quote.

Are you now admitting you don't understand it, and truly want me to explain it? 

[Coach is Back!]

You didn't like what the FBI spokesman had to say - so you accused the LA times of faking that quote.

Are you now admitting you don't understand it, and truly want me to explain it? 

I admitted I didn't understand it? You'll explain it anyway. lol.

[tonymctones]

Would you have been okay with this shooter being allowed to buy rifles while the FBI was investigating him?   It was over 2 years they were all up in his shit, trying to find something.   He cannot fly - but he can buy a dozen AR-15s? 

You are okay with that?

Way to not address any of the issues I shoved in your face

Whether or not I am ok with it is irrelevant, you cannot strip away someone's constitutional rights without due process.

PS glad you weren't hurt

[andreisdaman]

The NRA has created an atmosphere through their mindless pushing of guns that its okay and legal to go out and buy an assault rifle which serves NO USEFUL CIVILIAN PURPOSE other than to kill as many people as possible......

and idiots still defend them because they claim that they are fighting for 2nd Amendment rights...THE REAL DEAL , is that they are fighting to keep money flowing into their own pockets through gun sales, memberships, and donations...and they don't care how many people die to accomplish that....
its a money grab...pure and simple

[Soul Crusher]

The NRA has created an atmosphere through their mindless pushing of guns that its okay and legal to go out and buy an assault rifle which serves NO USEFUL CIVILIAN PURPOSE other than to kill as many people as possible......

and idiots still defend them because they claim that they are fighting for 2nd Amendment rights...THE REAL DEAL , is that they ar4 fighting to keep money flowing into their own pockets through gun sales...and they don't care how many people die to acomplish that....
its a money grab...pure and simple

Oh please - and who created the atomoshere in chicago and detroit and predominiately minority areas where people kill each other over a bottle of Colt 45?  Gangsta Rap made me do it? 

[andreisdaman]

Oh please - and who created the atomoshere in chicago and detroit and predominiately minority areas where people kill each other over a bottle of Colt 45?  Gangsta Rap made me do it? 

Again..there is no reason for people to own assault rifles.....address that...

[Soul Crusher]

Again..there is no reason for people to own assault rifles.....address that...

There is no reason to own a Corvette or Ferrari that goes 3x the legal speed limit - but we are allowed to - address that

[andreisdaman]

There is no reason to own a Corvette or Ferrari that goes 3x the legal speed limit - but we are allowed to - address that

I don't see Corvettes or Ferrraris in the news due to their causing mass killings

[tonymctones]

Again..there is no reason for people to own assault rifles.....address that...

Andre how does an "assault rifle" differ from a pistol?

[240 is Back]

Way to not address any of the issues I shoved in your face

Whether or not I am ok with it is irrelevant, you cannot strip away someone's constitutional rights without due process.

PS glad you weren't hurt

this dude traveled to saudi arabia repeatedly, he swore allegiance to multiple terror groups - the FBI saw his as a wanna-be and closed the file.

IMO, if a person claims to be isis, hamas, etc.... and travels overseas.... well I'm okay with stripping away their rights.  The moment a person shows any love to ANY foreign group with bad intentions, I'm okay with launching their rigths (including buying rifles) out the window.

[tonymctones]

this dude traveled to saudi arabia repeatedly, he swore allegiance to multiple terror groups - the FBI saw his as a wanna-be and closed the file.

IMO, if a person claims to be isis, hamas, etc.... and travels overseas.... well I'm okay with stripping away their rights.  The moment a person shows any love to ANY foreign group with bad intentions, I'm okay with launching their rigths (including buying rifles) out the window.

Well then make a law restricting the first amendment and make it a felony, that will prevent him from buying a gun.

You cannot strip someone's constitutional rights without due process, plain and simple

[240 is Back]

Well then make a law restricting the first amendment and make it a felony, that will prevent him from buying a gun.

You cannot strip someone's constitutional rights without due process, plain and simple

It's not a free speech issue.  It's providing support, growth, and public support for a terror group.  Just like yelling fire in a theater isn't protected.

[tonymctones]

It's not a free speech issue.  It's providing support, growth, and public support for a terror group.  Just like yelling fire in a theater isn't protected.

Your post said "if someone claims" that's a form of speech.

Contributing to a terrorist organization is already a crime that would have prevented him from owning a gun

[240 is Back]

Your post said "if someone claims" that's a form of speech.

Contributing to a terrorist organization is already a crime that would have prevented him from owning a gun

If I "claim" I"m going to do this or that to a person, it's not free speech, it's a THREAT.

If you publicly proclaim your allegiance with a group promising to hurt america, you're making a threat to nat'l security.

I cannot believe anyone is defending taking guns away from someone doing this.