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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #275 on: June 16, 2016, 10:04:04 PM »
What I think is sad is that there are a lot of people in this world are content to be defenseless.

Content to trust their fates to the whims of powerful men.

Don't be silly. Getbiggers are not defenseless.
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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #276 on: June 16, 2016, 10:26:28 PM »
If you ask nicely, maybe he'll let you suck his cock?

So that's your secret, glad it worked for you gloryhole gulper.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #277 on: June 16, 2016, 11:18:02 PM »
So that's your secret, glad it worked for you gloryhole gulper.

^textbook projection^

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #278 on: June 17, 2016, 06:49:34 AM »
Either the state has the power or the individual has the power.  That is the essence of the gun control debate.  Everything else is noise.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #279 on: June 17, 2016, 07:16:41 AM »
its sad how all but gun loving Americans see it. Keep your heads in the sand you so can own your precious gun, rifle, semi-automatic weapon.


smh

It's sad that even when presented with facts people like you will keep your head in the sand you can continue to spout off ignorance and emotion as a substitute.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #280 on: June 17, 2016, 07:31:37 AM »
THE WORLD HISTORY OF GUN CONTROL
1929 -- The Soviet Union establishes gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1935 -- China establishes gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents,unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1938 -- Germany establishes gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies,and other arbitrary categories of people unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1964 -- Guatemala establishes gun control.From 1964 to 1981 100,000 Mayan Indians,unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1966 -- Cambodia establishes gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1970 -- Uganda establishes gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1999 -- Australia establishes gun control. Law-abiding citizens were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms for destruction, a program costing the government more than $500 million. The results Australia-wide:homicides are up 3.2%, assaults are up 8%, and armed robberies are up 44%. In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300%. Over the previous 25 years, figures show a steady decrease in armed robberies and Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such a monumental effort was expended in "ridding society of guns."

In a mere 100 years, more than 56 million people, unable to defend themselves because of gun control, have lost their lives and property. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property. Gun control only affects law-abiding citizens as criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons. The next time someone suggests how much safer the world might be with gun control, ask them which group of citizens they would like to exterminate.
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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #281 on: June 17, 2016, 07:34:40 AM »
“There is too much gun crime in the USA, and high-powered weaponry is too easy to get. That’s the fact. So let’s deal with it. We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.”

“That’s because the Second Amendment clearly states the government has a right to regulate militias, made up of individuals. They have that right in the name of public safety. Therefore, Congress should debate what kind of weapons should be available for public sale. And the states, the individual states, should decide what kind of carry laws are good for their own people.”

- Bill O'Reilly, Tuesday



jump to 0:30 if you want

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“There is too much gun crime in the USA, and high-powered weaponry is too easy to get. That’s the fact. So let’s deal with it. We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.”

There's to much gun crime in the USA? Bullshit , gun crime and overall violence is down and this is at a time when personal gun ownership is at it's highest. See third picture. And the .223 is NOT " high powered "

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We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.

Strawman and Non-sequitur. We're talking about firearms

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“That’s because the Second Amendment clearly states the government has a right to regulate militias, made up of individuals. They have that right in the name of public safety. Therefore, Congress should debate what kind of weapons should be available for public sale. And the states, the individual states, should decide what kind of carry laws are good for their own people.”

Congress has already decided what weapons are for sale to the general public. They've even " banned " some weapons and after a 10 year ban they concluded that the ban had ZERO effect on gun violence , now ignorant people are again asking congress for the exact same thing  ::)

The state of Connecticut has had an Assault Weapons Ban in effect since 1993 , the rifle Adam Lanza used to murder all the children at Sandy Hook was NOT by the sates own definition an " Assault Weapon " Congrats Connecticut look what you accomplished. Want to " ban " these rifles some more?

Bill O'Reily is just as ignorant as you are.

How would an " Assault Weapons Ban " prevent any Mass shooting? Experts Chime in , I've been waiting for a salient explanation for quite some time now.

Second picture , ONE " Pre-Ban " AR15 , the other three are NOT by federal & state definitions an " Assault Weapon " explain how your friends at .Gov have made you any safer?

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #282 on: June 17, 2016, 07:44:13 AM »
If ANY of you have any integrity and are genuinely interested in facts please read all of this.

The Costs and Consequences of Gun Control

http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/costs-consequences-gun-control

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #283 on: June 17, 2016, 09:14:29 AM »
You're not being deployed in Florida




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Thanks for the comment- now back to reality: Bosnia, Croatia, Florida it makes NO difference to me... identify your enemy and engage.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #284 on: June 17, 2016, 09:16:47 AM »
...and God bless you brother.
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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #285 on: June 17, 2016, 09:18:26 AM »
Although the .223 caliber AR15 is a potent weapon, the power of the cartridge pales in comparison to the .308 caliber military rifles and most common hunting rifles. Still, at close range they are very lethal. A small yet fast projectile with a significant yaw causes unique damage to the body. Not alot of recoil either. I don't know what the answer is to these mass shootings. Personally, I have a Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 acp. It will do the job for personal defense.
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TRY carrying a 7.62 (308) on patrol for 6 or 7 hours with several magazines...

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #286 on: June 17, 2016, 12:58:11 PM »
I'm not a gun expert at all, but I would think that for a small enclosed space, a shotgun would be more devastating than a semi automatic rifle.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #287 on: June 17, 2016, 02:45:49 PM »
I'm not a gun expert at all, but I would think that for a small enclosed space, a shotgun would be more devastating than a semi automatic rifle.

You would be correct.  Capacity is far less on the shotgun though. 

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #288 on: June 17, 2016, 03:07:34 PM »
You would be correct.  Capacity is far less on the shotgun though.  

Yes, but if you saw it off, the pattern could hit 4 or 5 people with one shell.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #289 on: June 17, 2016, 03:59:05 PM »
Some more facts for the ignorant

Top 10 myths about mass shootings

Myth: Mass shootings are on the rise.
Reality: Over the past three decades, there has been an average of 20 mass shootings a year in the United States, each with at least four victims killed by gunfire. Occasionally, and mostly by sheer coincidence, several episodes have been clustered closely in time. Over all, however, there has not been an upward trajectory. To the contrary, the real growth has been in the style and pervasiveness of news-media coverage, thanks in large part to technological advances in reporting.

Myth: Mass murderers snap and kill indiscriminately.
Reality: Mass murderers typically plan their assaults for days, weeks, or months. They are deliberate in preparing their missions and determined to follow through, no matter what impediments are placed in their path.

Myth: Enhanced background checks will keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of these madmen.
Reality: Most mass murderers do not have criminal records or a history of psychiatric hospitalization. They would not be disqualified from purchasing their weapons legally. Certainly, people cannot be denied their Second Amendment rights just because they look strange or act in an odd manner. Besides, mass killers could always find an alternative way of securing the needed weaponry, even if they had to steal from family members or friends.

Myth: Restoring the federal ban on assault weapons will prevent these horrible crimes.
Reality: The overwhelming majority of mass murderers use firearms that would not be restricted by an assault-weapons ban. In fact, semiautomatic handguns are far more prevalent in mass shootings. Of course, limiting the size of ammunition clips would at least force a gunman to pause to reload or switch weapons.

Myth: Greater attention and response to the telltale warning signs will allow us to identify would-be mass killers before they act.
Reality: While there are some common features in the profile of a mass murderer (depression, resentment, social isolation, tendency to blame others for their misfortunes, fascination with violence, and interest in weaponry), those characteristics are all fairly prevalent in the general population. Any attempt to predict would produce many false positives. Actually, the telltale warning signs come into clear focus only after the deadly deed.

Myth: Widening the availability of mental-health services and reducing the stigma associated with mental illness will allow unstable individuals to get the treatment they need.
Reality: With their tendency to externalize blame and see themselves as victims of mistreatment, mass murderers perceive the problem to be in others, not themselves. They would generally resist attempts to encourage them to seek help. And, besides, our constant references to mass murderers as “wackos” or “sickos” don’t do much to destigmatize the mentally ill.

Myth: Increasing security in schools and other places will deter mass murder.
Reality: Most security measures will serve only as a minor inconvenience for those who are dead set on mass murder. If anything, excessive security and a fortress-like environment serve as a constant reminder of danger and vulnerability.

Myth: Students need to be prepared for the worst by participating in lockdown drills.
Reality: Lockdown drills can be very traumatizing, especially for young children. Also, it is questionable whether they would recall those lessons amid the hysteria associated with an actual shooting. The faculty and staff need to be adequately trained, and the kids just advised to listen to instructions. Schools should take the same low-key approach to the unlikely event of a shooting as the airlines do to the unlikely event of a crash. Passengers aren’t drilled in evacuation procedures but can assume the crew is sufficiently trained.

Myth: Expanding “right to carry” provisions will deter mass killers or at least stop them in their tracks and reduce the body counts.
Reality: Mass killers are often described by surviving witnesses as being relaxed and calm during their rampages, owing to their level of planning. In contrast, the rest of us are taken by surprise and respond frantically. A sudden and wild shootout involving the assailant and citizens armed with concealed weapons would potentially catch countless innocent victims in the crossfire.

Myth: We just need to enforce existing gun laws as well as increase the threat of the death penalty.
Reality: Mass killers typically expect to die, usually by their own hand or else by first responders. Nothing in the way of prosecution or punishment would divert them from their missions. They are ready to leave their miserable existence, but want some payback first.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #290 on: June 17, 2016, 04:01:37 PM »
Wow, ND, why are you losing your mind over this? lol.

As you said, no one is going to take away your guns.

I guess its fun to argue on getbig though.  :) :)
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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #291 on: June 17, 2016, 04:06:50 PM »
Wow, ND, why are you losing your mind over this? lol.

As you said, no one is going to take away your guns.

I guess its fun to argue on getbig though.  :) :)

It's fun to educate the ignorant masses on Getbig and reality  8)

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #292 on: June 17, 2016, 04:09:18 PM »
It's fun to educate the ignorant masses on Getbig and reality  8)

But you realize education only occurs when people change their cognitive framework about a topic? Thus, they become more informed and educated about a topic.

This is getbig. Trust me, you have not educated anyone.  :D :D ;D ;D
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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #293 on: June 17, 2016, 05:22:41 PM »
But you realize education only occurs when people change their cognitive framework about a topic? Thus, they become more informed and educated about a topic.

This is getbig. Trust me, you have not educated anyone.  :D :D ;D ;D

You can show people why the "talking points" they use to pass for arguments, are as worthless as the TV channel they got it from.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #294 on: June 17, 2016, 05:27:44 PM »
You can show people why the "talking points" they use to pass for arguments, are as worthless as the TV channel they got it from.

And education only occurs when people modify their cognitive framework, in order to discard useless talking points and include better ones.

That hardly ever occurs on getbig. No one on this site really learns anything.
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« Reply #295 on: June 17, 2016, 05:55:46 PM »
It's fun to educate the ignorant masses on Getbig and reality  8)

I think you are posting a lot of compelling, straight forward, factual information.  Some people may be unwilling to consider your points but they are still valuable.

There needs to be a sane, factual response to the hysterical nonsense that's being pushed by Democrat politicians and the media.

For too long traditional Americans have been silent and have allowed certain groups to crap all over the truth and spread their mental illness to the uninformed.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #296 on: June 17, 2016, 08:17:16 PM »

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #297 on: June 17, 2016, 08:24:33 PM »

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #298 on: June 17, 2016, 08:32:10 PM »
I appreciate all the information. Interesting and entertaining, thanks.  I think you'd also be more persuasive posting a bunch of pictures of hot chicks and body builders with guns.

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Re: Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O
« Reply #299 on: June 17, 2016, 09:12:26 PM »
If gun control were a topic people wanted to be educated on we wouldn't be having the discussion.