2 year old killed by a gator at Disney World

[Rudee]

So the dad received "minor injuries to the hand."  What does that even mean?

you don't know what minor injuries mean?

[SF1900]

So the dad received "minor injuries to the hand."  What does that even mean?

Examples of Minor injuries include:

    Sprains & Strains
    Broken Bones
    Arm and leg injuries
    Cuts and grazes, burns and scalds
    Eye injuries
    Minor head injuries
    Insect and animal bites
    Allergic reactions

[Royalty]

Examples of Minor injuries include:

    Sprains & Strains
    Broken Bones
    Arm and leg injuries
    Cuts and grazes, burns and scalds
    Eye injuries
    Minor head injuries
    Insect and animal bites
    Allergic reactions

sounds like the dad didn't wrestle too hard

[calfzilla]

sounds like the dad didn't wrestle too hard

Dad should have had an Ar15

[dr.chimps]

Gorilla. Now, gator. Some good parenting going on. 

[SF1900]

Gorilla. Now, gator. Some good parenting going on. 

Parenting mistakes happen. There are a lot of child deaths from parental mistakes, (e.g., kid falls down stairs, hit by car, accidentally drops something on his or her self). On the other hand, letting your 2 year old child wander near the edge of the water in Florida seems a little careless.

[240 is Back]

I was out with friends on one of their groves about 12 years back.  Found a gator.  Too close to the children and animals, he shot it.  I'm sure it was illegal as shit, and I'm sure he should have called authorities to remove it.  He hated when they showed up, as no hills to prevent them from eating his children.  It happened so fast, there was nothing to talk him down.  2 head shots from about 25 feet, rolled over and died.   Still fcks with me, It wasn't bothering anyone, but it would have eaten his children and was only 1/8 mile from his doorstep.

[WalterWhite]

Parenting mistakes happen. There are a lot of child deaths from parental mistakes, (e.g., kid falls down stairs, hit by car, accidentally drops something on his or her self). On the other hand, letting your 2 year old child wander near the edge of the water in Florida seems a little careless.

At night especially and I can speak from a parental perspective.  A two year old is very unpredictable!

[Al Doggity]

I was out with friends on one of their groves about 12 years back.  Found a gator.  Too close to the children and animals, he shot it.  I'm sure it was illegal as shit, and I'm sure he should have called authorities to remove it.  He hated when they showed up, as no hills to prevent them from eating his children.  It happened so fast, there was nothing to talk him down.  2 head shots from about 25 feet, rolled over and died.   Still fcks with me, It wasn't bothering anyone, but it would have eaten his children and was only 1/8 mile from his doorstep.

... but FL is awesome!

[Princess L]

100% valid points. I have no arguments at all.

However it is Disney's most expensive park and there was a lifeguard on duty (unless I'm completely mistaken), both of which could cause a sense of false security.

There was a lifeguard nearby at the swimming pool.  No lifeguard on duty at the lagoon because it's a NO SWIMMING zone.  It's 9:00 at night and you let your toddler venture into a foot of dark water?  WTF?  How tall is a typical 2 year old? Not even a yardstick, and you let him go into a water level 1/3 his body height without holding on to him?  


"Authorities said the boy waded into no more than 1 or 2 feet of water in the lagoon around nightfall Tuesday when he was taken from a small beach. The boy's father desperately tried to fight off the gator, suffering cuts on a hand, but he could not save his son. Neither could a nearby lifeguard, officials said.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/orlando_alligator_attack_charg.html

[Al Doggity]

100% valid points. I have no arguments at all.

However it is Disney's most expensive park and there was a lifeguard on duty (unless I'm completely mistaken), both of which could cause a sense of false security.

Then you do have some arguments. I can understand if someone thinks "Sad for the parents, but this was a preventable situation."  But the truth is the setting and where the people involved originate from DO make a do make a difference.

I'm not saying they are legally liable, but honestly, why do you think Disney declined to specify alligators on the warning signs? Because they didn't want alligators to be something that families enjoying a Disney World vacay thought about.

[240 is Back]

i know a lot of people that smuggle weed into Disney using their vape things.   

Not related, but I felt the need to share this.

[Beefjake]

Did he get bit? If so, yeah I agree. We don't know for sure how it went down but it sounds like he didn't go 100%. Alligators are nowhere near as big/strong as crocs and you'd have a fair chance at beating one if you attack his eyes at least

Nice to theorize about it while lying on a sofa with a tablet...
Most people filch with an angry dog.
But yes, with your offsprings life on the line, maybe. Hopefully I'd say.

I'm starting to believe it's the parents.
My kids weren't even awake anymore in that hour at that age, let alone out, by the water, alone.
Maybe something happened before and dad wen't to feed him to " fishes " who knows?

[irishdave]

Nice to theorize about it while lying on a sofa with a tablet...
Most people filch with an angry dog.
But yes, with your offsprings life on the line, maybe. Hopefully I'd say.

I'm starting to believe it's the parents.
My kids weren't even awake anymore in that hour at that age, let alone out, by the water, alone.
Maybe something happened before and dad wen't to feed him to " fishes " who knows?

I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately

[Beefjake]

No.
I just said that it is nice to theorize differences fighting with animals most people have only seen on National Geographig.
One could also wrestle with a chimp or what have you.

Would you have jumped in to that Gorilla pit on the news a while back?

[The True Adonis]

I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately

Alligator would eat you as a snack and then shit you out like you were worthless calories.

Amusing to think you could take on an alligator. 

[Rudee]

I wonder how many millions Disney is going to pay the family to settle.   What price can you put on a 2 year old child?

[240 is Back]

I wonder how many millions Disney is going to pay the family to settle.   What price can you put on a 2 year old child?

I'm sure they have a team of lawyers offering 5+ million to never do an interview, never talk about it again. 

One 20/20 interview (or whatever is hot these days) will cost them tens of millions of dollars. 

[Army of One]

I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately

Alligators and crocodiles have basically the strongest jaw strength there is, nearly 20 times a humans, if one bites a loved one and decides not to let go then no human on earth is going to do shit with their bare hands

[Nails]

I wonder how many millions Disney is going to pay the family to settle.   What price can you put on a 2 year old child?

$18,262.15

[Royalty]

I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately

Is this the part of the thread where we shift gears and ask about your weekend?

[SF1900]

Alligator would eat you as a snack and then shit you out like you were worthless calories.

Amusing to think you could take on an alligator. 

Well, Irish Dave is a getbigger. He may stand a chance against this alligator.

[WalterWhite]

i know a lot of people that smuggle weed into Disney using their vape things.   

Not related, but I felt the need to share this.

Only for medical reasons.

[The True Adonis]

Maybe we oughta buy an alligator and then fly "IrishDave" over here to fight it so we can watch him die.

[NaturalWonder83]

Kill all the gators they catch
Rip their teeth out and gouge out their eyes while it's alive
Then skin them alive
They serve no purpose except to murder people