Author Topic: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax (Read 10432 times)

efirkey · « **on:** June 17, 2016, 04:48:05 AM »

I would support this if I believed they actually used the money for cancer research or medical costs, but I'm sure they will use it to support welfare recipients instead.

How long before they tax all candy bars and everything else on the planet including supplements.

I live in a sales tax free state.

Donny · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:19:01 AM »

Quote from: efirkey on June 17, 2016, 04:48:05 AM

I would support this if I believed they actually used the money for cancer research or medical costs, but I'm sure they will use it to support welfare recipients instead.

How long before they tax all candy bars and everything else on the planet including supplements.

I live in a sales tax free state.

soon shitting will be taxed

kh300 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:26:49 AM »

Quote from: Donny on June 17, 2016, 05:19:01 AM

soon shitting will be taxed

It is. Your taxed when you buy the toilet,your taxed on the toilet paper,your taxed on the water when you flush,your taxed on the issue of muscle hunks you read while taking said shit.

Waller · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:27:49 AM »

Quote from: Donny on June 17, 2016, 05:19:01 AM

soon shitting will be taxed

Best stop talking then.

nzmusclemonster · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:28:18 AM »

Tax shit food, subsidies healthy food.

Donny · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:28:53 AM »

Quote from: kh300 on June 17, 2016, 05:26:49 AM

It is. Your taxed when you buy the toilet,your taxed on the toilet paper,your taxed when you flush,your taxed on the issue of muscle hunks you read while taking said shit.

Sad but true....

Mitch · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2016, 05:44:36 AM »

Why tax everyone? Tax obese people only. Normal people should get their sodas at normal price.

mazrim · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:11:48 AM »

Dumb. Make prople take a bodyfat test before paying.
Nothing to do with pop. It's called overeating everything.

BlackMetallic · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:17:19 AM »

Quote from: mazrim on June 17, 2016, 06:11:48 AM

Dumb. Make prople take a bodyfat test before paying.
Nothing to do with pop. It's called overeating everything.

Lol

Aclu fought and won so welfare recipients dont have to get drug tested in order to qualify for welfare

Aclu also sued and won allowing pregnant women to able use cocain during pregnancy

They would surely sue if what you said was passed

Donny · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:18:58 AM »

well i know that some Krankenkasse (Health insurance) here started to send people to Gyms.. and to go on awareness programms about overweight..etc. Most i met were happy to get a Gym payed for but i had a couple who were difficult to say the least. I had one woman who just did not want to be in the Gym. She was walking on the tredmill shaking her head and mumbling to herself. sometimes it´s hard to be nice to such people.

drkaje · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:21:01 AM »

Banning soda and some foods would probably have a bigger effect on society health than banning AR15s.

GigantorX · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:30:18 AM »

Who buys the majority of soft drinks and junk?

Poor people.

Oops!

Nails · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:50:55 AM »

i am sure those Philly cheese steak sandwiches have nothing to do with it

Donny · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2016, 06:53:31 AM »

Quote from: Nails on June 17, 2016, 06:50:55 AM

i am sure those Philly cheese steak sandwiches have nothing to do with it

sound great

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2016, 07:06:05 AM »

I don't drink soda but I also don't agree with the government taxing things they don't like in order to discourage their use. In my view this is an abuse of power and it's a way to circumvent the law.

They can't ban a certain thing because they know the public would never allow it so they try to find a way to hammer the companies that sell it and the consumers that buy it. This is not their job and none of their business. It's dishonest and an abuse of our tax system.

People must like getting pushed around.

SF1900 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 17, 2016, 07:16:05 AM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on June 17, 2016, 07:06:05 AM

I don't drink soda but I also don't agree with the government taxing things they don't like in order to discourage their use. In my view this is an abuse of power and it's a way to circumvent the law.

They can't ban a certain thing because they know the public would never allow it so they try to find a way to hammer the companies that sell it and the consumers that buy it. This is not their job and none of their business. It's dishonest and an abuse of our tax system.

People must like getting pushed around.

I felt the same way when they tried to ban Caliber Firness Solutions (Vince Goodrum, CNS, MFT, HHP). The government said that Caliber Fitness Solution was becoming a monopoly and taken over the fitness industry. Shame.

mazrim · « **Reply #16 on:** June 17, 2016, 07:27:38 AM »

Quote from: BlackMetallic on June 17, 2016, 06:17:19 AM

Lol

Aclu fought and won so welfare recipients dont have to get drug tested in order to qualify for welfare

Aclu also sued and won allowing pregnant women to able use cocain during pregnancy

They would surely sue if what you said was passed

Glad you thought my post was fully serious. Was making a point.

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #17 on:** June 17, 2016, 08:56:42 AM »

Philly has State Liquor stores where they over charge you for hard liquor and tax it on top of it. Wouldn't surprise me at all if soda was next.

Nails · « **Reply #18 on:** June 17, 2016, 08:59:04 AM »

it won't be long before they start taxing anyone they see on top of the Art Museum steps with their first pointing to the sky

efirkey · « **Reply #19 on:** June 17, 2016, 12:43:44 PM »

1.5 cents per ounce, so a 30 ounce big gulp would have 45 cents in tax. The soda probably only cost a $1. That's a pretty high tax rate there.

Al Doggity · « **Reply #20 on:** June 17, 2016, 01:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on June 17, 2016, 07:06:05 AM

I don't drink soda but I also don't agree with the government taxing things they don't like in order to discourage their use. In my view this is an abuse of power and it's a way to circumvent the law.

They can't ban a certain thing because they know the public would never allow it so they try to find a way to hammer the companies that sell it and the consumers that buy it. This is not their job and none of their business. It's dishonest and an abuse of our tax system.

People must like getting pushed around.

OK- but when you consider the fact that corn is one of the most heavily-subsidized crops (largely thanks to the massively influential corn lobby) and that's the main reason cheap, sugary and carb-heavy junk food is so plentiful, then does that alter the balance of power?

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #21 on:** June 17, 2016, 01:38:24 PM »

Quote from: Al Doggity on June 17, 2016, 01:30:54 PM

OK- but when you consider the fact that corn is one of the most heavily-subsidized crops (largely thanks to the massively influential corn lobby) and that's the main reason cheap, sugary and carb-heavy junk food is so plentiful, then does that alter the balance of power?

Agricultural subsidies is a complete topic that I'm not informed enough to comment on.

What I don't like is the government using taxes as a punitive measure to influence and control people's choices behavior.

Al Doggity · « **Reply #22 on:** June 17, 2016, 02:03:07 PM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on June 17, 2016, 01:38:24 PM

Agricultural subsidies is a complete topic that I'm not informed enough to comment on.

What I don't like is the government using taxes as a punitive measure to influence and control people's choices behavior.

The point being these sugary drinks did not become so prominent by accident or simply because it's what people like. At a lot of fast food places, it's actually cheaper to buy a larger drink than a smaller drink. Restaurants literally spend more on ice than they do the syrup to make the soda. The same economics are true for a lot of corn-based junk food sold in supermarkets. So the prices of these items are already artificially low, so that's influencing people's behavior, isn't it?

Chadwick The Beta · « **Reply #23 on:** June 17, 2016, 02:29:47 PM »

Lib politicians enacting another cash grab. Nothing new here.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #24 on:** June 17, 2016, 02:46:42 PM »

Quote from: Al Doggity on June 17, 2016, 02:03:07 PM

The point being these sugary drinks did not become so prominent by accident or simply because it's what people like. At a lot of fast food places, it's actually cheaper to buy a larger drink than a smaller drink. Restaurants literally spend more on ice than they do the syrup to make the soda. The same economics are true for a lot of corn-based junk food sold in supermarkets. So the prices of these items are already artificially low, so that's influencing people's behavior, isn't it?

Encouraging things and punishing things are two very different concepts.

What I don't like is the government using taxes to punish. I think that we should let the courts be in the punishment business.