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At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« on: June 20, 2016, 09:43:19 AM »
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/72-dhs-employees-on-terrorist-watch-list

At least 72 employees at the Department of Homeland Security are listed on the U.S. terrorist watch list, according to a Democratic lawmaker.

Rep. Stephen Lynch (D., Mass.) disclosed that a congressional investigation recently found that at least 72 people working at DHS also “were on the terrorist watch list.”

“Back in August, we did an investigation—the inspector general did—of the Department of Homeland Security, and they had 72 individuals that were on the terrorist watch list that were actually working at the Department of Homeland Security,” Lynch told Boston Public Radio.

“The [former DHS] director had to resign because of that,” he said.

DHS continues to fail inspections aimed at determining the efficiency of its internal safety mechanisms, as well as its efforts to protect the nation.

Lynch referred to a recent report that found the Transportation Security Administration, which is overseen by DHS, failed to stop 95 percent of those who attempted to bring restricted items past airport security.

“We had staffers go into eight different airports to test the department of homeland security screening process at major airports. They had a 95 percent failure rate,” Lynch said. “We had folks—this was a testing exercise, so we had folks going in there with guns on their ankles, and other weapons on their persons, and there was a 95 percent failure rate.”

Lynch said he has “very low confidence” in DHS based on its many failures over the years. For this reason, he voted in favor of recent legislation that will tighten the vetting process for any Syrian refugees applying for asylum in the United States.

“I have very low confidence based on empirical data that we’ve got on the Department of Homeland Security. I think we desperately need another set of eyeballs looking at the vetting process,” he said. “That’s vetting that’s being done at major airports where we have a stationary person coming through a facility, and we’re failing 95 percent of the time.”

“I have even lower confidence that they can conduct the vetting process in places like Jordan, or Belize or on the Syrian border, or in Cairo, or Beirut in any better fashion, especially given the huge volume of applicants we’ve had seeking refugee status,” Lynch said.

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 10:33:08 AM »
Trump doesn't want them having guns for home defense.   

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 10:35:39 AM »
Always thought that DHS was just pointless.

Why wouldn't you roll those people under DoD? Is homeland security not Defense of the homeland?

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 10:38:29 AM »
Great Job posting a false story that was debunked last year

http://www.snopes.com/72-dhs-employees-terrorist-watch-list/

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2016, 10:42:38 AM »
Great Job posting a false story that was debunked last year

http://www.snopes.com/72-dhs-employees-terrorist-watch-list/

So they were part of TSA and not DHS and somehow that makes it ok?


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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 10:55:09 AM »
I thought TSA fell under DHS?

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2016, 11:02:50 AM »
"The report (issued in June 2015, not August 2015) held that

73 airport workers and vendors had been improperly or insufficiently cleared by the Transportation Security Administration due to gaps in procedure. The first paragraph of that 34-page report read:

TSA's multi-layered process to vet aviation workers for potential links to terrorism was generally effective. In addition to initially vetting every application for new credentials, TSA recurrently vetted aviation workers with access to secured areas of commercial airports every time the Consolidated Terrorist Watchlist was updated. However, our testing showed that TSA did not identify 73 individuals with terrorism-related category codes because TSA is not authorized to receive all terrorism-related information under current interagency watchlisting policy."

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2016, 11:13:13 AM »
So they were part of TSA and not DHS and somehow that makes it ok?

where did I say anything was OK

just wondering why you're still getting duped by something that is a year old and not true

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 11:15:37 AM »
where did I say anything was OK

just wondering why you're still getting duped by something that is a year old and not true

Semantics.  TSA is under DHS and the claim came from a democrat lawmaker himself. 

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2016, 11:21:58 AM »
Semantics.  TSA is under DHS and the claim came from a democrat lawmaker himself. 

just curious how to decided to make this post this morning

Did you see this false story on Facebook or did you get it in an email

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 11:28:02 AM »
just curious how to decided to make this post this morning

Did you see this false story on Facebook or did you get it in an email

Was perusing stuff related to the terrorist watch list nonsense 

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 02:07:58 PM »
Always thought that DHS was just pointless.

Why wouldn't you roll those people under DoD? Is homeland security not Defense of the homeland?

I think it was a good decision to create the agency.  Part of the reason 9/11 was so successful is government agencies were not communicating and sharing information.  The FBI deals with domestic issues.  The CIA deals with international issues.  They were not on the same page.  Homeland Security sort of brings those agencies together to provide better protection for us. 

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2016, 05:06:54 PM »
I think it was a good decision to create the agency.  Part of the reason 9/11 was so successful is government agencies were not communicating and sharing information.  The FBI deals with domestic issues.  The CIA deals with international issues.  They were not on the same page.  Homeland Security sort of brings those agencies together to provide better protection for us. 

How does DHS bring them together to provide better protection for us?

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2016, 05:10:33 PM »
How does DHS bring them together to provide better protection for us?

DHS deals with both local and international terrorism threats, as opposed to the FBI, which deals with domestic issues, and the CIA, which deals with international issues.  If you read about the breakdown in communication and information sharing leading up to 9/11, it's pretty easy to see why creating something DHS was a good move. 

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2016, 07:03:43 AM »
DHS deals with both local and international terrorism threats, as opposed to the FBI, which deals with domestic issues, and the CIA, which deals with international issues.  If you read about the breakdown in communication and information sharing leading up to 9/11, it's pretty easy to see why creating something DHS was a good move. 

I agree and understand about the communication break down and inter-agency rivalry prior to 9/11.  But how does DHS do this?  Do they have complete access to both the FBI and CIA intel? 

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Re: At least 72 employees at DHS are on Terrorist Watch List
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2016, 02:54:21 PM »
I agree and understand about the communication break down and inter-agency rivalry prior to 9/11.  But how does DHS do this?  Do they have complete access to both the FBI and CIA intel? 

They gather local and international intel without being burdened by the restrictions placed on the FBI and CIA.  You can read about it.  https://www.dhs.gov/topic/information-sharing