Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'

[Alfurinn]

I haven't made any connection between gay marriage and pedophilia.  And I haven't made any religious arguments.  Where did you get that from?  Not from me.

You said "I don't think pedophilia will ever be accepted in society"

And to that I replied that it was already accepted in society in ancient Greece, the enlightened, intellectual, original secular society that first gave us Democracy.  It wasn't only accepted, it was encouraged.

You're entitled to your thoughts and opinions.  It may never be accepted again in Western society, then again, it might be.  I'm hoping for never again.

I said that same-sex marriage was a common practice in the ancient world to correct the assumption that same-sex marriage is a new thing that is being allowed today. No, same-sex marriage predates written history for thousands of years. Marriage itself is so old that it is impossible to know when humans began to practise it.

The rhetoric I'm reading here is both the slippery slope fallacy (we now have same-sex marriage legalised, what's next, pedophilia?) and the strategy of vilifying same-sex marriage by equating it with pedophilia to make same-sex marriage look like bad thing even though both are not related and there is nothing immoral about same-sex marriages. I inferred there was a second reading in your reply based on the second strategy I mentioned. I may have misinterpreted the intention in your reply.

I am not a scientist but you could talk with a pediatrician and a psychologist and they can vastly provide you with scientific evidence that kids are not physically and psychologically developed to engage in these matters with adults, they simply cannot consent and understand. This is why I think it is impossible that pedophilia could ever be accepted in a society that uses science to perfect its sense of right and wrong in order to make society better. It's not going to happen.

[loco]

I am not a scientist but you could talk with a pediatrician and a psychologist and they can vastly provide you with scientific evidence that kids are not physically and psychologically developed to engage in these matters with adults, they simply cannot consent and understand. This is why I think it is impossible that pedophilia could ever be accepted in a society that uses science to perfect its sense of right and wrong in order to make society better. It's not going to happen.

I don't need a doctor or a scientist to tell me that a child can't be a consenting adult.  Do you?

And no, that wouldn't stop society from accepting this perversion.  Are you saying everything society accepts today is logical and scientifically proven?

[Conker]

I don't need a doctor or a scientist to tell me that a child can't be a consenting adult.  Do you?

And no, that wouldn't stop society from accepting this perversion.  Are you saying everything society accepts today is logical and scientifically proven?

well when you look at your situation with gun control you probably have a point there

[El Diablo Blanco]

Why is living in Philadelphia make you straight or gay?

[Dr Dutch]

Fixed

This is a serious topic with a serious post from me.
Don't make yourself a complete fool by reacting like this on all my posts.

[El Diablo Blanco]

At what age is pedophilia not pedophilia?  In some countries puberty is the age but of course a young 12 year old is not ready.  But I remember when I was 13 and 14.  Some of these chicks were hornier than shit.  I would get my dick sucked and fingerbang all sorts of chicks in 8th and 9th grade.

a couple weeks back I see this chick in the distance.  About 5' 9" knee high boots, short black skirt, tight 3/4 length tank top on, long blonde hair, nice tits.  I was like HOLY FUCK!  I thought she was about 20.  Turns out she was 13.  WTF!  Why does a 13 year old look like she's in her 20's?  She can easily fool any dude into fucking her by saying she's 18-21 and they wouldn't know.

Apparently the average age for girls to hit puberty has gone down in the last couple decades.  Mostly from chemicals in food.  I think it used to be 13 and now they say 11.  In Mexico is 10.  This world is fucked.

[io856]

These threads always reveal the creeps and perverts. Coming out with their arguments like pedophilia in history, philosophical questions of consent, menarch as a natural determinant of sexual readiness and any other rationale.

Its really quite simple, don't sexually pursue youth. Don't accept their sexual advances. Just be a good human being. You don't even need religiousity to be decent to the sons and daughters of fathers and mothers.

Its just human decency, the state may define age of consent. Its there for good reason, its not something to be questioned, nonconformed to and detested just a defiance of state powers. Its about human decency, its about not putting your sexual organs near the youth.

[illuminati]

These threads always reveal the creeps and perverts. Coming out with their arguments like pedophilia in history, philosophical questions of consent, menarch as a natural determinant of sexual readiness and any other rationale.




This ^^^^^
Well said.

Ha a few have already exposed themselves.
Trying to justify Weirdo / perverted Behaviour.

[El Diablo Blanco]

These threads always reveal the creeps and perverts. Coming out with their arguments like pedophilia in history, philosophical questions of consent, menarch as a natural determinant of sexual readiness and any other rationale.

Its really quite simple, don't sexually pursue youth. Don't accept their sexual advances. Just be a good human being. You don't even need religiousity to be decent to the sons and daughters of fathers and mothers.

Its just human decency, the state may define age of consent. Its there for good reason, its not something to be questioned, nonconformed to and detested just a defiance of state powers. Its about human decency, its about not putting your sexual organs near the youth.

Please define what "be a good human being" is.  Don't spout religious shit to define it.  Humans created the rules about not fucking youth, but nature defines it by puberty.  In any species other than humans, once the female has her first period she is already popping out babies.  Humans made it taboo.  Why is that?

[io856]

Please define what "be a good human being" is.  Don't spout religious shit to define it.  Humans created the rules about not fucking youth, but nature defines it by puberty.  In any species other than humans, once the female has her first period she is already popping out babies.  Humans made it taboo.  Why is that?

We recognize that sexuality involves a huge emotional component.
We recognize that even though sexual development occurs at young age, pre frontal cortex development occurs post-adolescence. We recognize that the pre frontal cortex is responsible for logical thought and reasoning.
We recognize that an abundance of sexual hormones in conjunction with the heightened activity and growth of the amygdala (emotional decision making) leaves adolescence vulnerable. This can lead to life changing, irrational decisions which adults should not be ready and willing to take advantage of, especially when that may not be in the youth's best interest.

To take a youth's virginity and/or innocence (fresh oxytocin receptors) in the name of fleeting lust is coarse and unnecessary. If its love then it will stand the test of time.

[Simple Simon]

We recognize that sexuality involves a huge emotional component. We recognize that even though sexual development occurs at young age, pre frontal cortex development occurs post-adolescence. We recognize that the pre frontal cortex is responsible for logical thought and reasoning. We recognize that an abundance of sexual hormones in conjunction with the heightened activity and growth of the amygdala (emotional decision making) leaves adolescence vulnerable. This can lead to life changing decisions which adults should not be ready and willing to take advantage of, especially when that may not be in the youth's best interest. To take a youth's virginity and/or innocence (fresh oxytocin receptors for one) in the name of fleeting lust is coarse and unnecessary. If its love then it will stand the test of time.

I sense you are overthinking things.

[io856]

I sense you are overthinking things.

If there is anything that should be overthought, if there is anything worth standing for, it is the defense of youth.

The acceptance and proliferation of pedophilia will be a sad symptom of western decadence. A mark of the decline of a civilization.

[Simple Simon]

If there is anything that should be overthought, if there is anything worth standing for, it is the defense of youth.

The acceptance and proliferation of pedophilia will be a sad symptom of western decadence. A mark of the decline of a civilization.

[Primemuscle]

Which is so odd since the bible seems to be all about pedophilia.

Child bride Mary was 12 when she had Jesus,
Lot offered his kid daughters to save the angels in Sodom.

judges 21:20-23
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Numbers 31:1-18
Judges 21:7-11
Exodus 21:7-10

Tell me if you know, what was the average life span for humans male and female at that time? What was the rate of deaths during infancy? My guess is all things considered, Mary having a child at 12 years of age was probably the norm, meaning that women were not thought of as children during the time of Christ.

Note: The extended fantastical lifespans talked about in the Old Testament should be discounted, since this isn't proven and it is highly unlikely people lived for hundreds of years at that time.

[Primemuscle]

There was a line, you repulsive moron, and its already been crossed.

Men rectum fucking other men, boys or dogs…. are all demonstrations of absurd sexual perversion, and fundamentally 'immoral'.

Those lines likely never existed and therefore your examples are irrelevant.

[Conker]

We recognize that sexuality involves a huge emotional component.
We recognize that even though sexual development occurs at young age, pre frontal cortex development occurs post-adolescence. We recognize that the pre frontal cortex is responsible for logical thought and reasoning.
We recognize that an abundance of sexual hormones in conjunction with the heightened activity and growth of the amygdala (emotional decision making) leaves adolescence vulnerable. This can lead to life changing, irrational decisions which adults should not be ready and willing to take advantage of, especially when that may not be in the youth's best interest.

To take a youth's virginity and/or innocence (fresh oxytocin receptors) in the name of fleeting lust is coarse and unnecessary. If its love then it will stand the test of time.

you sound more like a paedo with every post

[io856]

you sound more like a paedo with every post

You must be dyslexic

[timfogarty]

It was already accepted in society in ancient Greece, you know, the enlightened, intellectual, original secular society that first gave us Democracy?  It wasn't only accepted, it was encouraged.

No, paedophilia, sex with a pre-pubescent, was not accepted in ancient Greece.  Pederasty, post-pubescent, was.

[The Ugly]

Thought I'd find Prime and fogarty here, must be psychic.

[Primemuscle]

Thought I'd find Prime and fogarty here, must be psychic.

Good to know.

Just so you know, I am psychic too. Anticipated your post here....word for word.

[Alfurinn]

I don't need a doctor or a scientist to tell me that a child can't be a consenting adult.  Do you?

And no, that wouldn't stop society from accepting this perversion.  Are you saying everything society accepts today is logical and scientifically proven?

Ridiculous attempt.

And no, it will not happen. Only paranoids and people projecting could think something like this could ever be accepted in a today's world.

[Primemuscle]

Ridiculous attempt.

And no, it will not happen. Only paranoids and people projecting could think something like this could ever be accepted in a today's world.

It won't always be "today's world". No one really knows what the future holds, unfortunately.

[bigmc]

protecting children is the most important thing in society

people that prey on children should be terminated

its that simple

[Primemuscle]

protecting children is the most important thing in society

people that prey on children should be terminated

its that simple

You'll get no argument from me.

[illuminati]

protecting children is the most important thing in society

people that prey on children should be terminated

its that simple

X2.
Well said.

Let's see if the Smart Mouths on here will Try to Question
This Statement.
Revealing more of their true self.