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Re: 23000 dollars for a car? Fuck That Shit...got a better idea
« Reply #375 on: August 12, 2016, 02:02:11 PM »
21 years old.

My math skills suck!  ;) Twenty one years old young is much better.

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« Reply #376 on: August 12, 2016, 02:07:33 PM »
I use them as daily drivers.
Thanks to your parents hard work.

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« Reply #377 on: August 12, 2016, 02:11:07 PM »
No, you are registered with the DMV. You never actually own it.

When you buy a car, after it is paid for, you get the title. Then you have something you can turn around and sell and perhaps have some value in.

Leasing never does that. I find leasing cars only valuable if you are the type of person who never pays off anything in the first place. If you are always wanting the next new car, then it's fine.

If you are not that type, it is pointless.
But I will never drive a car that is older than 2 years, you buy a car and you could be stuck with a heap of shit.
Even buying a car outright if something goes wrong, sure a new car has a warranty but the will kick and scream and try and offload the cost to you if something goes wrong
Mine goes wrong, they dispute anything, I chuck them the keys and walk.

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« Reply #378 on: August 12, 2016, 02:12:36 PM »
Cut him some slack, he's senile.   ;D

You could be right.  :(

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« Reply #379 on: August 12, 2016, 02:16:10 PM »
If you run someone over with your leased car you will be deemed the "owner" for purposes of a civil suit. Federal law protects the leasing companies from liability. Society is a little more sophisticated than you might imagine
In the UK the DVLA holds the details of the "registered keeper" of vehicles, thats the person responsible for its usage on public roads.
The owner of the vehicle doesnt have to be the registered keeper, proof of ownership of a vehicle is a bill of sale not the log book.

The DVLA dont give a fuck who owns vehicles.

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« Reply #380 on: August 12, 2016, 02:18:39 PM »

You're not good at math are you??  The engine and the transmission by itself in the jeep is worth about 600 bucks more than I paid for it as they are brand new.  I can part it out and make money if I wanted to.  

There is a risk at purchasing at the auction but more benefits.  The vehicle is paid for.  I added it to my insurance policy which added just an additional 55.00 dollars to my 6 month policy....less than 10 bucks a month because I don't need collision with making payments on a vehicle.  In addition, its a Jeep Cherokee Sport, so you can drive anywhere with it...in the woods, hills, etc so there are people that will buy it for hunting season.


Best of all, it makes an epic thread on Getbig.  I normally would not have purchased this vehicle, usually I get cars like Hondas and Toyotas because I can buy them for about 200 and sell them for a quick turnaround.  But if I didn't buy anything, it would have ruined my thread.

It appears that you made this decision carefully and that you are happy with the purchase. That's all that counts when all is said and done.

I thought I was proficient in math until I tried to make you Jeep 10 years older than it is.  :-[

Yes, this tread is epic, much like most all of your threads. Keep up the good work.

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« Reply #381 on: August 12, 2016, 02:23:13 PM »
It appears that you made this decision carefully and that you are happy with the purchase. That's all that counts when all is said and done.

I thought I was proficient in math until I tried to make you Jeep 10 years older than it is.  :-[

Yes, this tread is epic, much like most all of your threads. Keep up the good work.
Prime, managing to actually polish a turd of a thread.

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Re: 23000 dollars for a car? Fuck That Shit...got a better idea
« Reply #382 on: August 12, 2016, 02:26:18 PM »
But I will never drive a car that is older than 2 years, you buy a car and you could be stuck with a heap of shit.
Even buying a car outright if something goes wrong, sure a new car has a warranty but the will kick and scream and try and offload the cost to you if something goes wrong
Mine goes wrong, they dispute anything, I chuck them the keys and walk.
Another reason why build quality and quality control will continue to degrade and suck.  They know people will line up for leases, so why bother making quality anymore?  Just design it cheap to be replaced with cheap parts so the temporary driver can chuck the keys whenever something goes wrong (you are expecting it anyways).

Same thing happening with housing and everything else.  Standards are dropping, people don't have pride in ownership of anything anymore so why bother to build anything of quality?  Society will get what it deserves.

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« Reply #383 on: August 12, 2016, 02:27:17 PM »
No such thing as "lifespan of a car".  I used to drive a 1959 Cadillac as a daily driver.  If you take care of a car, it will outlive you.  Unless you buy plastic Mazdas that look like Micro-Penises with wheels.

You are right about the plastic. I don't see the penis comparison though.

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« Reply #384 on: August 12, 2016, 02:32:15 PM »
In the UK the DVLA holds the details of the "registered keeper" of vehicles, thats the person responsible for its usage on public roads.
The owner of the vehicle doesnt have to be the registered keeper, proof of ownership of a vehicle is a bill of sale not the log book.

The DVLA dont give a fuck who owns vehicles.
I read that the UK is in bad shape as their society is changing.  You guys should be outraged actually.  Read this just the other day:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/02/home-ownership-in-england-at-lowest-level-in-30-years-as-housing-crisis-grows

 Home ownership in England at lowest level in 30 years as housing crisis grows

Calls for government to build more homes as growing gap between earnings and house prices sees ownership fall across the country and people forced to rent


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Home ownership in England has fallen to its lowest level in 30 years as the growing gap between earnings and property prices has created a housing crisis that extends beyond London to cities including Manchester.

The struggle to get on the housing ladder is not just a feature of the London property market, according to a new report by the Resolution Foundation thinktank, with Greater Manchester seeing as big a slump in ownership since its peak in the early 2000s as parts of the capital, and cities in Yorkshire and the West Midlands also seeing sharp drops.
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Home ownership across England reached a peak in April 2003, when 71% of households owned their home, either outright or with a mortgage, but by February this year the figure had fallen to 64%, the Resolution Foundation said.

The figure is the lowest since 1986, when home ownership levels were on the way up, with a housing market boom fuelled by the deregulation of the mortgage industry and the introduction of the right-to-buy policy for council homes by Margaret Thatcher’s Conservative government.

The Resolution Foundation’s analysis highlights the scale of the job faced by the prime minister, Theresa May, who has pledged to tackle the housing deficit. May warned last month that unless the issue was dealt with “young people will find it even harder to afford their own home. The divide between those who inherit wealth and those who don’t will become more pronounced. And more and more of the country’s money will go into expensive housing.”

The report, based on analysis of the latest Labour Force Survey, showed that in early 2016 only 58% of households in Greater Manchester were homeowners, compared with a peak of 72% in 2003. In outer London, the peak in ownership came earlier, in 2000, but the fall was also from 72% then to 58% in February. The West Midlands and Yorkshire have also seen double-digit drops, driven by declines in Sheffield and Leeds.

Stephen Clarke, policy analyst at the Resolution Foundation, said: “London has a well-known and fully blown housing crisis but the struggle to buy a home is just as big a problem in cities across the north of England.”
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In the early years of the millennium, homeownership levels rose as buyers able to take out mortgages with no deposit scrambled to get on the ladder before prices became unaffordable. At that point the average cost of a UK property was £122,748 and growing at a rate of 20% a year, according to Nationwide Building Society, and banks and building societies were keen to lend.

But numbers started to drop as properties became less affordable and the downward trend continued as the housing market crashed after the credit crunch in 2008. The return of mortgages for borrowers with small deposits has brought first-time buyers back to the market, but the analysis underlines how great the struggle is to meet today’s new high house prices. According to Nationwide, the UK average had risen to £196,930 in February – a 60% increase in 13 years.

Lindsay Judge, an expert on housing at the thinktank, said the problem was one of affordability. “House prices began to outpace earnings in the early 2000s,” Judge said. “When the market fell so did earnings – house prices began to come down but so did people’s pay, or it was stagnating at best, so few people were able to make the most of falling prices.”

The analysis showed that across England levels of private renting almost doubled from 11% in 2003 to 19% in 2015, while in Greater Manchester the figure more than trebled, from 6% to 20%.

The Resolution Foundation said this shift in tenure could mean problems in the future, as individuals would need to find a way of funding their housing in retirement, or may need to turn to the benefits system for help. Clarke said: “The shift to renting privately can reduce current living standards and future wealth, with implications for individuals and the state. We cannot allow other cities to edge towards the kind of housing crisis that London has been saddled with.”

Anne Baxendale, head of policy and public affairs at the housing charity Shelter, said house prices were now “completely out of step with average wages”.

She added: “Sky-high rents are leaving many families struggling to make ends meet each month, let alone save up enough for the deposit on a home. Far from being the stepping stone it once was, many young people and families are now facing a lifetime stuck in expensive and unstable private renting.

“The new government has a real chance to give hope back to these families by tackling the root cause of the housing crisis and building genuinely affordable homes that people on ordinary incomes can actually afford to rent or buy.”

Dan Wilson-Craw, policy manager at the campaign group Generation Rent, said saving up for a deposit was becoming harder for would-be homeowners, especially those in insecure work. “Renting in the private sector is the only option for many, and 12-month contracts mean their homes are insecure too,” he said. “Everyone needs a stable home, whether or not they can afford to buy, so the government must look at reforming tenancy law.”

Grahame Morris, Labour’s shadow secretary of state for communities, said the research showed the government had failed to deliver on its promise to build homes. “Building more homes is part of the solution that involves increasing the housing mix we need to deal with the chronic housing crisis we face today,” he said. “The report highlights that we have the lowest level of new builds for generations. At the same time more and more people are being forced into the private rented sector, paying higher rents with little protection from unscrupulous landlords.”

The Department for Communities and Local Government said more than 300,000 people had been helped into homeownership through government-backed schemes since 2010.

“On top of this, latest figures show that for the first time in 20 years, first-time buyers have borrowed more than home movers,” a spokesman said. “However, we know there is more to do, which is why we’ve set out the most ambitious vision for housing in a generation, including delivering hundreds of thousands of homes exclusively for first-time buyers.”

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Re: 23000 dollars for a car? Fuck That Shit...got a better idea
« Reply #385 on: August 12, 2016, 02:36:36 PM »
I lease a car, I pay a monthly fee for 2 years then take it back and change it for a new one, trouble free motoring, its not my car, so what, im glad its not, any repairs all done under warranty
As for nothing to show for it, so what, all cars depreciate to zero eventually.

There are a few downsides to leasing. Whether it is better to lease or buy depends on a variety of things.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/12/buying-vs-leasing-basics/index.htm

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« Reply #386 on: August 12, 2016, 02:36:51 PM »
Pokemon and Iphones are all that matters to young people these days.  Imagine what that will progress into and how bad its gonna get.  :-\

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« Reply #387 on: August 12, 2016, 02:36:55 PM »
this adonis guy is bored as hell. isn't he the guy who looks like a hairless cat?

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« Reply #388 on: August 12, 2016, 02:37:03 PM »
Another reason why build quality and quality control will continue to degrade and suck.  They know people will line up for leases, so why bother making quality anymore?  Just design it cheap to be replaced with cheap parts so the temporary driver can chuck the keys whenever something goes wrong (you are expecting it anyways).

Same thing happening with housing and everything else.  Standards are dropping, people don't have pride in ownership of anything anymore so why bother to build anything of quality?  Society will get what it deserves.

Even assuming what you say is true, so what?  Auto companies are in the business of making money, that is their only objective. It's survival of the fittest. That's why the tax payers bailed out the big dogs in 2008 (TARP). You can either be a have or a have not

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« Reply #389 on: August 12, 2016, 02:38:48 PM »
Even assuming what you say is true, so what?  Auto companies are in the business of making money, that is their only objective. It's survival of the fittest. That's why the tax payers bailed out the big dogs in 2008 (TARP). You can either be a have or a have not

This is an extremely simplistic view of complex issues. Yes, survival of the fittest. We get it. Welcome to Biology 101.
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« Reply #390 on: August 12, 2016, 02:39:18 PM »
this.

I actually respect Vince for being tighter with his money than a Jewish grandmother from Scotland

Goodrum is tight with his money, but not smart with his money. Does he have any notable investments (stocks, bonds etc.) ? Nope

does he buy a 2nd car even though he has a low net worth? yes

does he really need a 2nd car? nope

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« Reply #391 on: August 12, 2016, 02:41:17 PM »
Pokemon and Iphones are all that matters to young people these days.  Imagine what that will progress into and how bad its gonna get.  :-\

They will be unemployed and post on Internet forums all day living in an imaginary online world where they get the attention that they don't get in the real world?

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« Reply #392 on: August 12, 2016, 02:42:43 PM »
When you lease you are the registered "owner" although title remains in the hands of the financing company.

What's the value of being the registered owner? The lessor has conditions the lessee must adhere to or pay extra. Most lease contracts limit the mileage. You pay for any repairs that exceed normal wear and tear.  

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« Reply #393 on: August 12, 2016, 02:42:57 PM »
this.

I actually respect Vince for being tighter with his money than a Jewish grandmother from Scotland
Being tight with Money doesn't mean much when you earn just enough to get by  :D

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« Reply #394 on: August 12, 2016, 02:43:02 PM »
There are a few downsides to leasing. Whether it is better to lease or buy depends on a variety of things.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/12/buying-vs-leasing-basics/index.htm

Looks like they don't advocate leasing.  From the article:

Does it make sense to lease?

The financial workings of leasing are so confusing that people don’t realize that leasing invariably costs more than an equivalent loan. And even if they did, the extra cost is difficult to calculate. Still, many people can’t afford the higher payments of a typical loan, at least not without putting a substantial amount down. If payments are an issue, consider buying a lower-cost vehicle or a reliable used car.

Opting for a longer-term loan of, for example, six years, could result in roughly the same low monthly payments as a three-year lease. But longer loans make it easier to get “upside down” on your loan, where you owe more than the vehicle is worth. So, if you decide to get rid of the car early on or if it’s destroyed or stolen—the trade-in, resale, or insurance value likely will be less than you still owe on the loan. Indeed, if you want to drive a new car every cou­ple of years, taking out a long-term loan but trading in early will leave you hav­ing paid so much in finance charges compared to principal, that you might as well have leased. If you can’t pay off the difference on an upside-down loan, you can often roll the amount you still owe into the new loan. You end up financing both the new car and the remainder of your old car.

If you decide on a long-term loan, hold on to the vehicle until it’s paid off. If low monthly payments and the opportunity to drive a new vehicle every few years with little hassle are worth the extra cost, consider leasing. Be sure, however, that you can live with all the limitations on mileage, wear and tear, vehicle modifications, and the like. Finally, keep in mind that you should be able to afford the lease for the entire period, since the early termin­ation penalties can be costly.


The comments on that article are great:

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"the idea of driving a new car ever 2-3 years" That's really proving
the point of the OP. You can't afford to drive a "new" car every 2-3 years, but you want to look like you can. Because there is no practical reason to want to. Cars are built to last FAR longer than that. It's all about image.

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My theory on why leasing is so popular is that people want to be able to drive a better car than they can afford. Kinda dumb.



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« Reply #395 on: August 12, 2016, 02:44:30 PM »
Even assuming what you say is true, so what?  Auto companies are in the business of making money, that is their only objective. It's survival of the fittest. That's why the tax payers bailed out the big dogs in 2008 (TARP). You can either be a have or a have not
The way you are going about it, seems to be in the have not, but want it now category.   :-\   Are you now arguing against yourself?  ???

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« Reply #396 on: August 12, 2016, 02:45:45 PM »
What's the value of being the registered owner? The lessor has conditions lessee must adhere to or pay extra. Most lease contracts limit the mileage. You pay for any repairs that exceed normal wear and tear.  

Correct. No benefit other than being able to drive the car so long as you're making your lease payments. What else do u need?

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« Reply #397 on: August 12, 2016, 02:46:29 PM »
No, you are registered with the DMV. You never actually own it.

When you buy a car, after it is paid for, you get the title. Then you have something you can turn around and sell and perhaps have some value in.

Leasing never does that. I find leasing cars only valuable if you are the type of person who never pays off anything in the first place. If you are always wanting the next new car, then it's fine.

If you are not that type, it is pointless.

There are some advantages in leasing a car if you use it for business purposes.

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« Reply #398 on: August 12, 2016, 02:47:32 PM »
The fact of the matter is this:

If someone has the money to buy, they buy. Most wealthy people dont lease cars. The same people who lease cars are the same people who would buy the car outright if they won the lottery.
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« Reply #399 on: August 12, 2016, 02:49:00 PM »
The way you are going about it, seems to be in the have not, but want it now category.   :-\   Are you now arguing against yourself?  ???

You have no idea what I have. Leasing 2 cars for me is a negligible expense that's well worth it given the satisfaction that I derive from driving them, which is only on the weekends since I do not really drive during the week