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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2016, 01:41:18 PM »
Four Years ago, the Sentinal Editorial Board Endorsed Romney.  :-\

Why Trump is a terrible choice
by the Editorial Board

Donald Trump unquestionably is a force in politics. But he's not a force for good. His candidacy is fueled by far, far too much hate and anger.

Hillary Clinton is not perfect. But unlike Trump, she is thoroughly qualified and completely fit to be president. Given the choice between the two, it is impossible to recommend that voters choose Trump.

We'll briefly catalog Trump's major faults in a moment. But first, let us acknowledge his appeal.

Trump speaks to a lot of people who feel bypassed in today's economy, especially older workers. But it's simplistic for him to lay the loss of manufacturing jobs squarely on trade deals, which to be fair, have also saved or created a lot of jobs here at home. The bigger truth is that the Internet age, automation and technology, and the global marketplace have forever changed how we work. And Trump cannot change that reality by building walls, strong-arming manufacturers into staying in America or placing prohibitive taxes on imports.

A lot of people also find Trump appealing because they see him as some great businessman. But there's the myth of Trump and the reality of Trump. And his spotty record — think Trump University, Trump Tower Tampa and the Trump casino in Atlantic City, to name a few — shows Trump looks out for Trump, not the little guy.

Trump speaks to a lot of people who feel bypassed in today's economy, especially older workers. But it's simplistic for him to lay the loss of manufacturing jobs squarely on trade deals, which to be fair, have also saved or created a lot of jobs here at home. The bigger truth is that the Internet age, automation and technology, and the global marketplace have forever changed how we work. And Trump cannot change that reality by building walls, strong-arming manufacturers into staying in America or placing prohibitive taxes on imports.

A lot of people also find Trump appealing because they see him as some great businessman. But there's the myth of Trump and the reality of Trump. And his spotty record — think Trump University, Trump Tower Tampa and the Trump casino in Atlantic City, to name a few — shows Trump looks out for Trump, not the little guy.

Even if he were a successful businessman, that doesn't equate to being a successful political leader. In business, your role might be to get the advantage over the other guy. But if the leader of the free world decimates the other guys economically, who is going to buy our products?

Perhaps that's why the prospect of a President Trump has made the stock market quake. By contrast, Hillary's strong debate performance gave it a bounce.

A lot of people also find Trump appealing because they think he will shake up Washington. But it's hard to see how the Republican nominee could end partisan gridlock when he can't get a lot of people in his own party to stand with him.

Trump's promises are an illusion, but the hate and anger that make him unfit are real. We'll begin with the "birther" issue because that was the beginning of Trump's political prominence.

Trump in 2011 became the most important popularizer of the conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in this country and therefore is not an American citizen. Until just a few days ago, Trump refused to disown this blatant lie, which is an insult to all African-Americans.

Even after Trump finally conceded that Obama is an American, he repeated the lie that Hillary Clinton started the birther conspiracy theory. Clinton was right during the first debate to label Trump's shameful "birther" behavior racist.

And that is not the only evidence of longstanding questionable racial attitudes. His early days in real estate saw his company successfully sued for discrimination against minorities. He insisted during the campaign that blacks today live in the worst conditions "Ever. Ever. Ever," which speaks to his astonishing inability to understand the deep scars of slavery and Jim Crow. Add to this his embrace of "stop and frisk" tactics ruled unconstitutional because they discriminated against minorities.

Trump also shows a disqualifying hateful streak toward women, whom he has called "pigs" and "fat slobs." During his current campaign he made an issue of the appearance of primary opponent Carly Fiorina and Ted Cruz's wife Heidi. Trump's "blood" comments about Fox's Megyn Kelly were outrageous.

Trump's hate extends to Hispanics, Muslims and even the disabled. It's bad enough he called former Miss Universe Alicia Machado "Miss Piggy" for gaining weight, he also called her "Miss Housekeeping" because she is a Latina.

Trump infamously characterized Mexicans as criminals and rapists. He suggested a judge ruled against him in a Trump University lawsuit because of the American jurist's Mexican heritage. Then there's the wall Trump has pledged to make Mexico pay for and his hazy yet callous plans for deporting millions of illegal immigrants.

Trump's attitude toward Muslims is just as awful, from his pants-on-fire claim to have seen "thousands and thousands" of people in New Jersey celebrating the 9/11 attacks, to his un-American plan to exclude immigrants from America if they are Muslims, to his disparagement of a Muslim father and mother whose son was killed in Iraq while serving in the military.

Then, of course, there is the video of Trump mocking the convulsive body movements of a reporter who has a disability that severely restricts his arm movements.

With all that in mind – plus his tendency to urge supporters at his rallies to rough up protesters – imagine Trump trying to offer comfort after a national tragedy.

Trump refused to admit that he mocked the reporter, and he refused to admit that he couldn't have seen "thousands" of people celebrating in New Jersey. Those refusals provide a transition to another of Trump's disqualifying traits – his apparent inability to admit a mistake. A person who cannot admit a mistake cannot learn from his mistakes. Such a person would make a very dangerous president, indeed.

The most infamous example is Trump's continued claim – repeated in the recent debate – that he opposed President George W. Bush's 2003 decision to invade Iraq. On this issue and others, Trump either is knowingly lying or is delusional.

Against that backdrop, Trump's refusal to release his tax returns raises bright red flags. He lent credence to the suspicion he has paid no federal taxes by remarking during the debate that getting away with paying nothing in prior years "makes me smart."

If middle class voters need another reason not to trust Trump, how about the fact he congratulated himself for planning to cash in on the real estate collapse that triggered the Great Recession in which so many people lost their jobs. "That's called business," he said.

Clinton has a self-inflicted trust issue of her own, most seriously because of her email scandal. But, folks, to this point the number of lies Trump persists in telling dwarfs Clinton's truth problem. Clinton, at least, has admitted that she's made mistakes.

In addition to those problems of judgment and temperament, Trump is lacking in basic knowledge and experience. It shows in his foolish comments suggesting that the United States might ignore threats against certain of our NATO allies. It shows in his "bromance" with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin. It shows in his dangerously shallow understanding of nuclear policy.

That latter failure is downright scary. Trump has indicated he wouldn't be upset by significant nuclear proliferation. In a debate during the primary he did not know (until Marco Rubio told him) that "nuclear triad" refers to America's ability to deliver nukes via planes, subs and missile silos.

Even in the most recent debate he seemed uncertain both about what America's nuclear policy is and about what his own nuclear policy would be. Trump said that he "would certainly not do first strike," but he also said that "I can't take anything off the table." In other words, he is on both sides of this issue.

Trump's nuclear ignorance is terrifying.

There are many other issues for which Trump's knowledge and experience deficit is serious. And alarmingly, as we saw in the debate, he doesn't put a premium on preparation.

Trump can't overcome his deficits by surrounding himself with top advisers because he wouldn't listen to his advisers. For one of the worst things about Trump is that he is convinced he always knows best.

Copyright © 2016, Sun Sentinel

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2016, 05:02:25 AM »
Hillary Clinton for president
By Editorial Board

IN THE gloom and ugliness of this political season, one encouraging truth is often overlooked: There is a well-qualified, well-prepared candidate on the ballot. Hillary Clinton has the potential to be an excellent president of the United States, and we endorse her without hesitation.

In a moment, we will explain our confidence. But first, allow us to anticipate a likely question: No, we are not making this endorsement simply because Ms. Clinton’s chief opponent is dreadful.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is dreadful, that is true — uniquely unqualified as a presidential candidate. If we believed that Ms. Clinton were the lesser of two evils, we might well urge you to vote for her anyway — that is how strongly we feel about Mr. Trump. But we would also tell you that was our judgment.

Fortunately, it is not.

We recognize that many Americans distrust and dislike Ms. Clinton. The negative feelings reflect in part the bitter partisanship of the nation’s politics today; in part the dishonest attacks she has been subjected to for decades; and in part her genuine flaws, missteps and weaknesses.

We are not blind to those. Ms. Clinton is inclined to circle the wagons and withhold information, from the closed meetings of her health-care panel in 1993 to the Whitewater affair, from the ostensibly personal emails she destroyed on her own say-so after leaving the State Department to her reluctance to disclose her pneumonia last month. Further, she and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, are not the first to cash in on the speech circuit, but they have done so on an unprecedented and unseemly scale. And no one will accuse Ms. Clinton of an excess of charisma: She has neither the eloquence of President Obama nor the folksy charm of former president George W. Bush or, for that matter, her husband.

But maybe, at this moment in history, that last weakness is also a strength. If Ms. Clinton is elected, she will attempt to govern an angrily divided nation, working with legislators who in many cases are determined to thwart her, while her defeated opponent quite possibly will pretend her victory is fraudulent.

What hope is there for progress in such an environment — for a way out of the gridlock that frustrates so many Americans? The temptation is to summon a “revolution,” as her chief primary opponent imagined, or promise to blow up the system, as Mr. Trump posits. Both temptations are dead ends, as Ms. Clinton understands. If progress is possible, it will be incremental and achieved with input from members of both parties. Eloquence and charm may matter less than policy chops and persistence.

It is fair to read Ms. Clinton’s career as a series of learning experiences that have prepared her well for such an environment. As first lady, she failed when she tried to radically remake the American health-care system. Instead of retreating, she reentered the fray to help enact a more modest but important reform expanding health-care access to poor children.

Her infamous “reset” with Russia offers a similar arc. We have not hesitated to criticize the Obama administration’s foreign policy, including its lukewarm support for Ukraine in the face of a Russian invasion, but criticism of the “reset” is off-base. When Ms. Clinton launched the policy, Dmitry Medvedev, not Vladimir Putin, was president of Russia, and nobody — maybe not even Mr. Putin — knew how things would play out. It was smart to test Mr. Medvedev’s willingness to cooperate, and in fact the United States and Russia made progress under Ms. Clinton’s leadership, including in nuclear-arms control and in facilitating resupply of U.S. troops in Afghanistan across Russian territory. As Mr. Putin reasserted himself and Russia became more hostile, Ms. Clinton was clear-eyed about the need to adjust U.S. policy.

She was similarly clear-eyed after winning election to the Senate in 2000. You might have expected her to hold some grudges, especially toward Republican legislators who had lambasted her husband in the most personal terms during his then-recent impeachment and Senate trial. But colleagues in both parties found her to be businesslike, knowledgeable, intent on accomplishment, willing to work across the aisle and less focused than most on getting credit.

Professionals in the State Department offer similar testimonials about her tenure as secretary during Mr. Obama’s first term: She reached out, listened to diverse points of view and, more than many politicians who come to that job with their own small teams, was open to intelligent advice. She was respected by employees and by counterparts overseas. She set priorities, including ensuring that “women’s rights are human rights” would rise from slogan to policy.

Her 2016 presidential campaign offers one more case study of lessons learned — a model of efficiency and of large egos subordinated to a larger cause — after her far less disciplined 2008 effort.

Ms. Clinton, in other words, is dogged, resilient, purposeful and smart. Unlike Mr. Clinton or Mr. Bush when they ascended, she knows Washington; unlike Mr. Obama when he ascended, she has executive experience. She does not let her feelings get in the way of the job at hand. She is well positioned to get something done.

So what would she do? Her ambitions are less lofty than we would like when it comes, for example, to reforming unsustainable entitlement programs, and than many in her party would like, in their demand, for example, for free college tuition. But most of her agenda is commendable, and parts may actually be achievable: immigration reform; increased investment in infrastructure, research and education, paid for by higher taxes on the wealthy; sounder family-leave policies; criminal-justice reform. In an era of slowing growth and growing income inequality, these all make sense, as do her support for curbing climate change and for regulating gun ownership.

Ms. Clinton also understands the importance of U.S. leadership in the world, her campaign-year anti-trade epiphany notwithstanding. Inside the Obama administration, Ms. Clinton was a voice for engagement on behalf of democracy, human rights and stability. At times (the surge in Afghanistan), Mr. Obama listened. At times (Syrian intervention), he did not — and the world is far more dangerous because of that. Ms. Clinton can be faulted, perhaps, for excessive loyalty; though the hyper-investigated Benghazi affair proved to be no scandal at all, Ms. Clinton should have argued more persistently to help stabilize Libya after its dictator fell.

But her foreign-policy inclinations were sounder than her president’s. It is telling that, even as she tacked left to survive the primaries, she did not give ground to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on the core value of American engagement in the world. Allies would find her more reliable than the incumbent and far more dependable than her opponent. The world would be more secure as a result.

No election is without risk. The biggest worry about a Clinton presidency, in our view, is in the sphere where she does not seem to have learned the right lessons, namely openness and accountability. Her use of a private email server as secretary was a mistake, not a high crime; but her slow, grudging explanations of it worsened the damage and insulted the voters. Her long periods of self-insulation from press questioning during the campaign do not bode well.

The Clinton Foundation has done a lot of good in the world, but Ms. Clinton was disturbingly cavalier in allowing a close aide to go on its payroll while still at State, and in failing to erect the promised impenetrable wall between the foundation and the government. She would have to do better in the White House.

Even here, however, Mr. Trump makes her look good. She has released years of tax returns. She has voluntarily identified her campaign bundlers. The Clinton Foundation actually is a charitable foundation, not a vehicle for purchasing portraits of herself. She is a paragon of transparency relative to her opponent.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, has shown himself to be bigoted, ignorant, deceitful, narcissistic, vengeful, petty, misogynistic, fiscally reckless, intellectually lazy, contemptuous of democracy and enamored of America’s enemies. As president, he would pose a grave danger to the nation and the world.

Rather than dwell on that danger here, we invite you to visit wapo.st/thecaseagainsttrump. There we have assembled a timeline of Mr. Trump’s most alarming statements, accompanied by video and linked to some of the most trenchant commentary from our columnists, guest contributors, editorial writers and cartoonists over the past 16 months. This closing argument is far from exhaustive, but it is horrifying enough. If you have any doubts about Mr. Trump’s unfitness, please take a look.

Meanwhile, Ms. Clinton underlined her fitness for office in what was essentially the first major decision of her potential presidency: her choice of Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) as running mate. Rather than calculate how best to assuage or excite this or that part of her base, Ms. Clinton selected a person of sound judgment, with executive and legislative experience and unquestionable capacity to serve as president if necessary.

That presages what Americans might reasonably expect of a Clinton presidency: seriousness of purpose and relentless commitment, even in the face of great obstacles, to achievements in the public interest. We believe that Ms. Clinton will prove a worthy example to girls who celebrate the election of America’s first female president. We believe, too, that anyone who votes for her will be able to look back, four years from now, with pride in that decision.

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2016, 02:38:36 PM »
A major newspaper, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, has finally endorsed Donald Trump (virtually every other major paper in the country has endorsed Clinton).  The Review-Journal is owned by Sheldon Adelson.


EDITORIAL: Donald Trump for president
These are turbulent times.

More and more Americans express frustration and disillusionment today with the political institutions that govern the nation. They clamor for an alternative to the incestuous and pernicious atmosphere dominating the capital. They see a vast array of lobbyists, elected officials and entrenched interests manipulating the levers of power for their own enrichment at the expense of ordinary citizens.

The discontent isn’t confined by ideology or political philosophy. As Donald Trump confounded the pundit class in ignoring convention and protocol on his way to securing the Republican presidential nomination, a long-time socialist generated throngs of enthusiastic supporters on the left and almost derailed the Democratic coronation of Hillary Clinton.

“Change is in the air,” activist Marianne Williamson wrote, “as old patterns fall away and new energies are emerging.”

And so it is.

History tells us that agents for reform often generate fear and alarm among those intent on preserving their cushy sinecures. It’s hardly a shock, then, that the 2016 campaign has produced a barrage of unceasing vitriol directed toward Mr. Trump. But let us not be distracted by the social media sideshows and carnival clatter. Substantive issues are in play this November.

Our allies on the world stage watch nervously as America retreats from its position of strong leadership leaving strife and conflict rushing to fill the void. The past eight years have pushed us $20 trillion into debt, obligations that will burden our children and grandchildren. The nation’s economy sputters under the growing weight of federal edicts and regulations that smother growth and innovation. Obamacare threatens to crash and burn. The middle class struggles. An administration promising hope and unity instead brought division.

Yet Hillary Clinton promises to lead us down the same path. She’ll cuddle up to the ways and perks of Washington like she would to a cozy old blanket.

Mr. Trump instead brings a corporate sensibility and a steadfast determination to an ossified Beltway culture. He advocates for lower taxes and a simplified tax code, in contrast to his opponent’s plan to extract another $1 trillion from the private economy in order to enlarge the bureaucracy. Mr. Trump understands and appreciates the conditions that lead to prosperity and job creation and would be a friend to small business and entrepreneurship. Mrs. Clinton has spent most of her adult life on the public payroll.

Of particular importance is the U.S. Supreme Court. The next president may be charged with filling multiple vacancies, shaping the court’s direction for a generation. Mr. Trump prefers nominees who recognize the Constitution’s checks on federal authority as a bulwark against tyranny. Mrs. Clinton would be a disaster in this regard.

Protections enshrined in no fewer than five amendments in the Bill of Rights could be eliminated or diminished under a progressive high court. Mrs. Clinton has already expressed support for empowering censors to regulate political speech — and even ban movies and books — by rewriting the First Amendment under the guise of campaign finance reform. Count on this to be a litmus test for her high-court nominees.

Expect the Second Amendment to fare no better. The individual right to bear arms would be a likely casualty of a Clinton presidency. In addition, it’s not hard to envision a liberal court further eroding the Fifth Amendment’s restrictions on government confiscation of private property and simply pulling the plug on the Ninth and 10th amendments, which have long been on life support.

Make no mistake, a Hillary Clinton administration would indulge the worst instincts of the authoritarian left and continue to swell the bloated regulatory state while running the nation deeper into the red in pursuit of “free” college and health care.
 

Yes, Mr. Trump’s impulsiveness and overheated rhetoric alienate many voters. He has trouble dealing with critics and would be wise to discover the power of humility.

But neither candidate will ever be called to the dais to accept an award for moral probity and character. And we are already distressingly familiar with the Clinton way, which involves turning public service into an orgy of influence peddling and entitlement designed to line their own pockets — precisely what a disgruntled electorate now rises up to protest.

Mr. Trump represents neither the danger his critics claim nor the magic elixir many of his supporters crave. But he promises to be a source of disruption and discomfort to the privileged, back-scratching political elites for whom the nation’s strength and solvency have become subservient to power’s pursuit and preservation.

Donald Trump for president.

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2016, 03:38:57 PM »
A major newspaper, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, has finally endorsed Donald Trump (virtually every other major paper in the country has endorsed Clinton).  The Review-Journal is owned by Sheldon Adelson.


EDITORIAL: Donald Trump for president
These are turbulent times.

More and more Americans express frustration and disillusionment today with the political institutions that govern the nation. They clamor for an alternative to the incestuous and pernicious atmosphere dominating the capital. They see a vast array of lobbyists, elected officials and entrenched interests manipulating the levers of power for their own enrichment at the expense of ordinary citizens.

The discontent isn’t confined by ideology or political philosophy. As Donald Trump confounded the pundit class in ignoring convention and protocol on his way to securing the Republican presidential nomination, a long-time socialist generated throngs of enthusiastic supporters on the left and almost derailed the Democratic coronation of Hillary Clinton.

“Change is in the air,” activist Marianne Williamson wrote, “as old patterns fall away and new energies are emerging.”

And so it is.

History tells us that agents for reform often generate fear and alarm among those intent on preserving their cushy sinecures. It’s hardly a shock, then, that the 2016 campaign has produced a barrage of unceasing vitriol directed toward Mr. Trump. But let us not be distracted by the social media sideshows and carnival clatter. Substantive issues are in play this November.

Our allies on the world stage watch nervously as America retreats from its position of strong leadership leaving strife and conflict rushing to fill the void. The past eight years have pushed us $20 trillion into debt, obligations that will burden our children and grandchildren. The nation’s economy sputters under the growing weight of federal edicts and regulations that smother growth and innovation. Obamacare threatens to crash and burn. The middle class struggles. An administration promising hope and unity instead brought division.

Yet Hillary Clinton promises to lead us down the same path. She’ll cuddle up to the ways and perks of Washington like she would to a cozy old blanket.

Mr. Trump instead brings a corporate sensibility and a steadfast determination to an ossified Beltway culture. He advocates for lower taxes and a simplified tax code, in contrast to his opponent’s plan to extract another $1 trillion from the private economy in order to enlarge the bureaucracy. Mr. Trump understands and appreciates the conditions that lead to prosperity and job creation and would be a friend to small business and entrepreneurship. Mrs. Clinton has spent most of her adult life on the public payroll.

Of particular importance is the U.S. Supreme Court. The next president may be charged with filling multiple vacancies, shaping the court’s direction for a generation. Mr. Trump prefers nominees who recognize the Constitution’s checks on federal authority as a bulwark against tyranny. Mrs. Clinton would be a disaster in this regard.

Protections enshrined in no fewer than five amendments in the Bill of Rights could be eliminated or diminished under a progressive high court. Mrs. Clinton has already expressed support for empowering censors to regulate political speech — and even ban movies and books — by rewriting the First Amendment under the guise of campaign finance reform. Count on this to be a litmus test for her high-court nominees.

Expect the Second Amendment to fare no better. The individual right to bear arms would be a likely casualty of a Clinton presidency. In addition, it’s not hard to envision a liberal court further eroding the Fifth Amendment’s restrictions on government confiscation of private property and simply pulling the plug on the Ninth and 10th amendments, which have long been on life support.

Make no mistake, a Hillary Clinton administration would indulge the worst instincts of the authoritarian left and continue to swell the bloated regulatory state while running the nation deeper into the red in pursuit of “free” college and health care.
 

Yes, Mr. Trump’s impulsiveness and overheated rhetoric alienate many voters. He has trouble dealing with critics and would be wise to discover the power of humility.

But neither candidate will ever be called to the dais to accept an award for moral probity and character. And we are already distressingly familiar with the Clinton way, which involves turning public service into an orgy of influence peddling and entitlement designed to line their own pockets — precisely what a disgruntled electorate now rises up to protest.

Mr. Trump represents neither the danger his critics claim nor the magic elixir many of his supporters crave. But he promises to be a source of disruption and discomfort to the privileged, back-scratching political elites for whom the nation’s strength and solvency have become subservient to power’s pursuit and preservation.

Donald Trump for president.

That guy really does look like a bag of smashed assholes

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2016, 03:00:18 PM »
Colin Powell Says He’ll Vote for Hillary Clinton
By MAGGIE HABERMAN

Colin L. Powell, the Republican former secretary of state, said on Tuesday that he planned to vote for Hillary Clinton for president as he condemned her rival, Donald J. Trump, at an event on Long Island.

Speaking before the Long Island Association, a trade group that frequently hosts political figures, Mr. Powell divulged his intentions come Election Day.

“I am voting for Hillary Clinton,” he said, according to Matthew Cohen, a spokesman for the association. Mr. Powell went on to praise Mrs. Clinton for her skills as a leader and her experience.

Paule Pachter, a Long Island Association board member, said that Mr. Powell was blunt.

“He said he would support Hillary Clinton and he also elaborated on several reason why he felt that Donald Trump was not the right candidate,” he said. “He spoke about his inexperience, he spoke about the messages that he’s sending out every day to his supporters, which really paints our country in a negative light across the globe with all our allies.”

The comments were a change from Mr. Powell’s tone in hacked emails from his inbox that were made public in September. In the emails, Mr. Powell criticized Mr. Trump but also expressed bitterness at Mrs. Clinton for repeatedly pointing to Mr. Powell’s email habits to explain away her own use of a private email server while she ran the State Department.

Mr. Powell’s comments make him the latest member of the Republican foreign policy and national security establishment to openly condemn his party’s nominee, and to say that Mrs. Clinton is the preferred choice.

But Mrs. Clinton came under harsh attack on Tuesday from Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York mayor, who echoed in more pointed language Mr. Trump’s recent assertions that Mr. Clinton should be jailed.

“When I see her, I see her in an orange jumpsuit,” Mr. Giuliani, a former United States attorney, said on a Philadelphia talk radio station, WPHT. “I’m sorry, or at least a striped one. I’d have prosecuted her a year ago and probably convicted her by now.”

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2016, 06:36:45 AM »
HAHAHAHA! We don't want you! Go back to the swamp Nikki!

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2016, 07:58:39 AM »
Many will secretly vote for Trump, but never admit to it.  Some will even lie and say they voted for Hillary.

Pretty sad when admitting to voting for Trump is politically incorrect, but saying that you voted for a criminal it's okay and socially accepted.

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2016, 11:38:27 AM »
Many will secretly vote for Trump, but never admit to it.  Some will even lie and say they voted for Hillary.

Pretty sad when admitting to voting for Trump is politically incorrect, but saying that you voted for a criminal it's okay and socially accepted.

Who knows?

BUT, one thing I find odd is the failure of Trump supporters to accept/ believe some of us really think Hillary is the best choice.
I had a woman in the gym tell me she didn't really believe I voted for Hillary.
She laughed and waved her hand saying she knew I was joking and walked away.

Here on this and other forums, a few Trump supporters claim I have buyers remorse for my early vote for Hillary. WTF?
It's perfectly normal to disagree during any election. BUT to refuse to accept people feel good about voting for the other side is odd.

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2016, 02:47:16 PM »
Who knows?

BUT, one thing I find odd is the failure of Trump supporters to accept/ believe some of us really think Hillary is the best choice.
I had a woman in the gym tell me she didn't really believe I voted for Hillary.
She laughed and waved her hand saying she knew I was joking and walked away.

Here on this and other forums, a few Trump supporters claim I have buyers remorse for my early vote for Hillary. WTF?
It's perfectly normal to disagree during any election. BUT to refuse to accept people feel good about voting for the other side is odd.
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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2016, 03:22:04 PM »
Many will secretly vote for Trump, but never admit to it.  Some will even lie and say they voted for Hillary.

Pretty sad when admitting to voting for Trump is politically incorrect, but saying that you voted for a criminal it's okay and socially accepted.

Are you talking about yourself?  Did you just make this up out of thin air?  If not what are you basing it on?

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2016, 03:26:09 PM »
KKK’s official newspaper supports Donald Trump for president
By Peter Holley

Among the small number of American newspapers that have embraced Donald Trump’s campaign, there is one, in particular, that stands out.

It is called the Crusader — and it is one of the most prominent newspapers of the Ku Klux Klan.

Under the banner "Make America Great Again," the entire front page of the paper's current issue is devoted to a lengthy defense of Trump’s message — an embrace some have labeled a de facto endorsement.

"'Make America Great Again!' It is a slogan that has been repeatedly used by Donald Trump in his campaign for the presidency," Pastor Thomas Robb wrote in the Crusader. "You can see it on the shirts, buttons, posters and ball caps such as the one being worn here by Trump speaking at a recent rally. … But can it happen? Can America really be great again? This is what we will soon find out!"

"While Trump wants to make America great again, we have to ask ourselves, 'What made America great in the first place?'" the article continues. "The short answer to that is simple. America was great not because of what our forefathers did — but because of who our forefathers were.

"America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great."

The Trump campaign sharply and swiftly criticized the article. "Mr. Trump and the campaign denounces hate in any form," the campaign said in a statement Tuesday evening. "This publication is repulsive and their views do not represent the tens of millions of Americans who are uniting behind our campaign."

Reached by phone, Robb told The Washington Post that while the Crusader wasn’t officially endorsing Trump, his article signaled the publication's enthusiastic support for the Republican billionaire's candidacy.

"Overall, we do like his nationalist views and his words about shutting down the border to illegal aliens," Robb said. "It’s not an endorsement because, like anybody, there's things you disagree with. But he kind of reflects what’s happening throughout the world. There seems to be a surge of nationalism worldwide as nationals reclaim their borders."

The 12-page quarterly newspaper calls itself "The Political Voice of White Christian America!" and has a well-known white supremacist symbol on its front page. The latest edition includes articles about Jewish links to terrorism, black-on-white crime and a man who claims to be Bill Clinton’s illegitimate child. An article near the end of the paper says that Trump’s candidacy is "moving the dialogue forward."

The publication's website says that its "number one goal" is to "stop white genocide."

Since the earliest days of his presidential bid, Trump has attracted the support of prominent white nationalists across the country, setting off fears that a dormant fringe faction of the GOP base — one steeped in xenophobic and white supremacist rhetoric — would be folded back into mainstream politics.

In the early months, white nationalists said they were reluctant to publicly throw their support behind the controversial billionaire for fear of harming his strengthening campaign. But white nationalists said as Trump became more emboldened, they did too.

In January, Jared Taylor — editor of the white nationalist magazine American Renaissance — lent his voice to a robo-call recording urging registered voters in Iowa to back Trump. Those potential voters, Taylor told The Post, are part of a silent majority who are tired of being asked to celebrate diversity but are afraid of being labeled bigots.

A month later, Trump was embraced by former KKK grand wizard David Duke, which led to a controversial exchange between CNN’s Jake Tapper and the Republican candidate. Asked by Tapper to "unequivocally condemn" Duke, Trump pleaded ignorance.

"Just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke, okay?" Trump said.

Tapper pressed him several more times to disavow Duke and the KKK, but Trump again declined.

"I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists," Trump said. "So I don't know. I don't know — did he endorse me, or what’s going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."

That same month, Rachel Pendergraft — the national organizer for the Knights Party, a standard-bearer for the Ku Klux Klan — told The Post that Trump's campaign offered the organization a new outreach tool for recruiting new members and expanding their formerly dwindling ranks.

The Republican presidential candidate, Pendergraft said at the time, provided separatists with an easy way to start a conversation about issues that are important to the dying white supremacist movement.

"One of the things that our organization really stresses with our membership is we want them to educate themselves on issues, but we also want them to be able to learn how to open up a conversation with other people," Pendergraft said.

Using Trump as a conversation piece has been discussed on a private, members-only website and in “e-news, stuff that goes out to members.”

In addition to opening “a door to conversation,” she said, Trump’s surging candidacy has electrified some members of the movement.

"They like the overall momentum of his rallies and his campaign," Pendergraft said. "They like that he's not willing to back down. He says what he believes and he stands on that."

In August, the American Nazi Party’s chairman, Rocky Suhayda, agreed, declaring on his radio show that Trump offers "real opportunity" to build the white nationalist movement.

More recently, Trump's rallies have been marred by a series of racially charged incidents.

Last week, a black Trump supporter was booted from a North Carolina rally after he was mistaken for being a protester. Trump’s security detail escorted a man out of the rally as the audience cheered.

“You can get him out,” Trump said, making a sideways motion with his thumb. “Get him out.”

The person in question turned out to be C.J. Cary, a North Carolina resident, who claims to be a longtime Trump supporter.

Cary, in a phone interview, said Saturday that he had gone to the rally because he wanted to hand-deliver a note to the Republican presidential nominee. He made his way to about 20 to 30 feet from the stage and shouted “Donald!” while waving his note around to try to catch his attention.

“Everyone else is waving Trump signs and I’m waving this white letter,” Cary, 63, said. He said that, coupled with the fact that he was wearing sunglasses during an evening rally to deal with his sensitivity to light, may have been what set people off.

Cary said a security official noticed he appeared to be a supporter but said he should not have disrupted the rally.

“He asked me, ‘What happened? You have on a GOP badge,’ " Cary said. “I said, ‘I’m yelling at Donald, and he thinks I’m a protester.’ ”

Days later, Donald Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, forcefully disavowed a supporter as “deplorable” for chanting “Jew-S-A!” at a weekend rally, the latest incident of anti-Semitic rhetoric used by some of the GOP nominee’s backers, according to Post reporters Jose A. DelReal and Sean Sullivan.

“[The man’s] conduct is completely unacceptable and does not reflect our campaign or our candidate. Wow,” Conway said during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “That man’s conduct was deplorable. And had I been there, I would have asked security to remove him immediately.”

The Saturday afternoon incident in Phoenix was captured on video that showed a man confronting reporters at the rally with shouts and a three-fingered hand gesture that resembled hate symbols flagged by the Anti-Defamation League.

“You’re going down! You’re the enemy!” the man yelled. As the rest of the crowd broke into a chant of “USA! USA!,” the man repeatedly chanted, “Jew-S-A! Jew-S-A!”

Conway agreed when CNN’s Jake Tapper asked whether the man’s behavior was "deplorable" — a reference to controversial comments made last month by Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who was criticized for casting "half of Trump’s supporters" as a "basket of deplorables." Clinton later expressed regret for suggesting that half of his supporters were racist or xenophobic.

As DelReal and Sullivan reported, the "Jew-S-A" incident revived long-standing anxieties about xenophobic and white supremacist rhetoric used by a fringe faction within the GOP nominee’s base.

Anti-Semitic slogans and language, they wrote, have become common among self-identified members of the "alt-right," a fringe conservative movement that fashions itself as a populist and anti-establishment alternative to the mainstream Republican Party. Many within the alt-right have enthusiastically embraced Trump’s campaign message, which has included calls for mass deportations of undocumented Latino immigrants and for barring foreign Muslims from entering the United States.

Many of Trump's critics have accused him and his campaign of stoking racial grievances as a political tool. Those accusations have intensified since Stephen K. Bannon stepped away from running Breitbart News — which he has called a "platform for the alt-right" — to become the Trump campaign’s chief executive.

"I wouldn’t want to tar and feather every Trump supporter with the anti-Semitic comments of one person, but it is the case that the Trump campaign has been embraced by the radical right in an unprecedented way this season," said Richard Cohen, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Trump came under fire over the summer for retweeting an image of rival Hillary Clinton alongside $100 bills and a Jewish star bearing the words “most corrupt candidate ever!” Trump later claimed that it was a sheriff’s star.

Trump’s son, Donald Jr., also drew attention for doing an interview with a white-nationalist radio host this year; he later told Bloomberg News that he did not realize the interviewer was going to be looped into the conversation. He was also blasted for posting an image on social media he said he got from a friend that included Pepe the Frog, a figure that has been appropriated by white supremacists. He told ABC News that he did not know about the association.

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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2016, 03:37:55 PM »
Are you talking about yourself?  Did you just make this up out of thin air?  If not what are you basing it on?

Not talking about myself, and I did not make this up out of thin air.

I'm basing it on what I've heard others say, on and off TV, I've read it somewhere before.

Google "secretly vote for trump"

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2016, 03:39:40 PM »
KKK’s official newspaper supports Donald Trump for president
By Peter Holley

Among the small number of American newspapers that have embraced Donald Trump’s campaign, there is one, in particular, that stands out.

It is called the Crusader — and it is one of the most prominent newspapers of the Ku Klux Klan.

Under the banner "Make America Great Again," the entire front page of the paper's current issue is devoted to a lengthy defense of Trump’s message — an embrace some have labeled a de facto endorsement.

"'Make America Great Again!' It is a slogan that has been repeatedly used by Donald Trump in his campaign for the presidency," Pastor Thomas Robb wrote in the Crusader. "You can see it on the shirts, buttons, posters and ball caps such as the one being worn here by Trump speaking at a recent rally. … But can it happen? Can America really be great again? This is what we will soon find out!"

"While Trump wants to make America great again, we have to ask ourselves, 'What made America great in the first place?'" the article continues. "The short answer to that is simple. America was great not because of what our forefathers did — but because of who our forefathers were.

"America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great."

The Trump campaign sharply and swiftly criticized the article. "Mr. Trump and the campaign denounces hate in any form," the campaign said in a statement Tuesday evening. "This publication is repulsive and their views do not represent the tens of millions of Americans who are uniting behind our campaign."

Reached by phone, Robb told The Washington Post that while the Crusader wasn’t officially endorsing Trump, his article signaled the publication's enthusiastic support for the Republican billionaire's candidacy.

"Overall, we do like his nationalist views and his words about shutting down the border to illegal aliens," Robb said. "It’s not an endorsement because, like anybody, there's things you disagree with. But he kind of reflects what’s happening throughout the world. There seems to be a surge of nationalism worldwide as nationals reclaim their borders."

The 12-page quarterly newspaper calls itself "The Political Voice of White Christian America!" and has a well-known white supremacist symbol on its front page. The latest edition includes articles about Jewish links to terrorism, black-on-white crime and a man who claims to be Bill Clinton’s illegitimate child. An article near the end of the paper says that Trump’s candidacy is "moving the dialogue forward."

The publication's website says that its "number one goal" is to "stop white genocide."

Since the earliest days of his presidential bid, Trump has attracted the support of prominent white nationalists across the country, setting off fears that a dormant fringe faction of the GOP base — one steeped in xenophobic and white supremacist rhetoric — would be folded back into mainstream politics.

In the early months, white nationalists said they were reluctant to publicly throw their support behind the controversial billionaire for fear of harming his strengthening campaign. But white nationalists said as Trump became more emboldened, they did too.

In January, Jared Taylor — editor of the white nationalist magazine American Renaissance — lent his voice to a robo-call recording urging registered voters in Iowa to back Trump. Those potential voters, Taylor told The Post, are part of a silent majority who are tired of being asked to celebrate diversity but are afraid of being labeled bigots.

A month later, Trump was embraced by former KKK grand wizard David Duke, which led to a controversial exchange between CNN’s Jake Tapper and the Republican candidate. Asked by Tapper to "unequivocally condemn" Duke, Trump pleaded ignorance.

"Just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke, okay?" Trump said.

Tapper pressed him several more times to disavow Duke and the KKK, but Trump again declined.

"I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists," Trump said. "So I don't know. I don't know — did he endorse me, or what’s going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."

That same month, Rachel Pendergraft — the national organizer for the Knights Party, a standard-bearer for the Ku Klux Klan — told The Post that Trump's campaign offered the organization a new outreach tool for recruiting new members and expanding their formerly dwindling ranks.

The Republican presidential candidate, Pendergraft said at the time, provided separatists with an easy way to start a conversation about issues that are important to the dying white supremacist movement.

"One of the things that our organization really stresses with our membership is we want them to educate themselves on issues, but we also want them to be able to learn how to open up a conversation with other people," Pendergraft said.

Using Trump as a conversation piece has been discussed on a private, members-only website and in “e-news, stuff that goes out to members.”

In addition to opening “a door to conversation,” she said, Trump’s surging candidacy has electrified some members of the movement.

"They like the overall momentum of his rallies and his campaign," Pendergraft said. "They like that he's not willing to back down. He says what he believes and he stands on that."

In August, the American Nazi Party’s chairman, Rocky Suhayda, agreed, declaring on his radio show that Trump offers "real opportunity" to build the white nationalist movement.

More recently, Trump's rallies have been marred by a series of racially charged incidents.

Last week, a black Trump supporter was booted from a North Carolina rally after he was mistaken for being a protester. Trump’s security detail escorted a man out of the rally as the audience cheered.

“You can get him out,” Trump said, making a sideways motion with his thumb. “Get him out.”

The person in question turned out to be C.J. Cary, a North Carolina resident, who claims to be a longtime Trump supporter.

Cary, in a phone interview, said Saturday that he had gone to the rally because he wanted to hand-deliver a note to the Republican presidential nominee. He made his way to about 20 to 30 feet from the stage and shouted “Donald!” while waving his note around to try to catch his attention.

“Everyone else is waving Trump signs and I’m waving this white letter,” Cary, 63, said. He said that, coupled with the fact that he was wearing sunglasses during an evening rally to deal with his sensitivity to light, may have been what set people off.

Cary said a security official noticed he appeared to be a supporter but said he should not have disrupted the rally.

“He asked me, ‘What happened? You have on a GOP badge,’ " Cary said. “I said, ‘I’m yelling at Donald, and he thinks I’m a protester.’ ”

Days later, Donald Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, forcefully disavowed a supporter as “deplorable” for chanting “Jew-S-A!” at a weekend rally, the latest incident of anti-Semitic rhetoric used by some of the GOP nominee’s backers, according to Post reporters Jose A. DelReal and Sean Sullivan.

“[The man’s] conduct is completely unacceptable and does not reflect our campaign or our candidate. Wow,” Conway said during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “That man’s conduct was deplorable. And had I been there, I would have asked security to remove him immediately.”

The Saturday afternoon incident in Phoenix was captured on video that showed a man confronting reporters at the rally with shouts and a three-fingered hand gesture that resembled hate symbols flagged by the Anti-Defamation League.

“You’re going down! You’re the enemy!” the man yelled. As the rest of the crowd broke into a chant of “USA! USA!,” the man repeatedly chanted, “Jew-S-A! Jew-S-A!”

Conway agreed when CNN’s Jake Tapper asked whether the man’s behavior was "deplorable" — a reference to controversial comments made last month by Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who was criticized for casting "half of Trump’s supporters" as a "basket of deplorables." Clinton later expressed regret for suggesting that half of his supporters were racist or xenophobic.

As DelReal and Sullivan reported, the "Jew-S-A" incident revived long-standing anxieties about xenophobic and white supremacist rhetoric used by a fringe faction within the GOP nominee’s base.

Anti-Semitic slogans and language, they wrote, have become common among self-identified members of the "alt-right," a fringe conservative movement that fashions itself as a populist and anti-establishment alternative to the mainstream Republican Party. Many within the alt-right have enthusiastically embraced Trump’s campaign message, which has included calls for mass deportations of undocumented Latino immigrants and for barring foreign Muslims from entering the United States.

Many of Trump's critics have accused him and his campaign of stoking racial grievances as a political tool. Those accusations have intensified since Stephen K. Bannon stepped away from running Breitbart News — which he has called a "platform for the alt-right" — to become the Trump campaign’s chief executive.

"I wouldn’t want to tar and feather every Trump supporter with the anti-Semitic comments of one person, but it is the case that the Trump campaign has been embraced by the radical right in an unprecedented way this season," said Richard Cohen, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Trump came under fire over the summer for retweeting an image of rival Hillary Clinton alongside $100 bills and a Jewish star bearing the words “most corrupt candidate ever!” Trump later claimed that it was a sheriff’s star.

Trump’s son, Donald Jr., also drew attention for doing an interview with a white-nationalist radio host this year; he later told Bloomberg News that he did not realize the interviewer was going to be looped into the conversation. He was also blasted for posting an image on social media he said he got from a friend that included Pepe the Frog, a figure that has been appropriated by white supremacists. He told ABC News that he did not know about the association.


Why are you pasting this bullshit? Thats all you do like you're some intellectual giant when in fact you're just some uneducated serf. Really just nonsense this bullshit you post. So who cares what the KKK endorses, you act like Trump has some kind of magical power on what people want and say.

How about this, you post why blacks and gays are so up Hillarys ass. You post why YOUR PEOPLE(S) are so into a woman who has done nothing for them. Because the rest of the educated people can't figure it out.

Maybe you're attracted to her because she looks like a man? Maybe because the black population are just plain ignorant on how the politcal system work and just follow the leader. Why do gays follow the gay groups?

Instead of posting your bullshit you really should post shit that maybe you can answer or speak on.

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2016, 03:49:50 PM »

Why are you pasting this bullshit? Thats all you do like you're some intellectual giant when in fact you're just some uneducated serf. Really just nonsense this bullshit you post. So who cares what the KKK endorses, you act like Trump has some kind of magical power on what people want and say.

How about this, you post why blacks and gays are so up Hillarys ass. You post why YOUR PEOPLE(S) are so into a woman who has done nothing for them. Because the rest of the educated people can't figure it out.

Maybe you're attracted to her because she looks like a man? Maybe because the black population are just plain ignorant on how the politcal system work and just follow the leader. Why do gays follow the gay groups?

Instead of posting your bullshit you really should post shit that maybe you can answer or speak on.
Stay positive!!!!!1
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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2016, 03:51:33 PM »
Bay you're grabbing for straws at this point. Many people just might decide to vote for who seems the most honest and trustworthy after this week....you better hope not. Haha.

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2016, 04:12:59 PM »

Why are you pasting this bullshit? Thats all you do like you're some intellectual giant when in fact you're just some uneducated serf. Really just nonsense this bullshit you post. So who cares what the KKK endorses, you act like Trump has some kind of magical power on what people want and say.

How about this, you post why blacks and gays are so up Hillarys ass. You post why YOUR PEOPLE(S) are so into a woman who has done nothing for them. Because the rest of the educated people can't figure it out.

Maybe you're attracted to her because she looks like a man? Maybe because the black population are just plain ignorant on how the politcal system work and just follow the leader. Why do gays follow the gay groups?

Instead of posting your bullshit you really should post shit that maybe you can answer or speak on.

If you think what I am posting is bullshit why are you reading it?  Why are you reading threads (by me) that you are ostensibly not interested in.  Presumably you have something better to do with your time.  The gym perhaps.  ::)

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2016, 04:41:03 PM »
If you think what I am posting is bullshit why are you reading it?  Why are you reading threads (by me) that you are ostensibly not interested in.  Presumably you have something better to do with your time.  The gym perhaps.  ::)

Answer the question!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do blacks and gays support Hillary like she's the second coming of Christ?

While you're at it, pronounce these words:

1. God

2. Police

3. Ask

4. McDonalds

5. Ambulance

6. Shrimp

7. Library

8. Teeth

REMEMBER...ANYTHING WITH A TH SHOULD NOT BE AN F

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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2016, 04:49:57 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2016, 04:55:41 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2016, 12:11:06 PM »
Another gratifying repudiation of the mainstream media. 

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« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2020, 10:00:03 PM »
Not talking about myself, and I did not make this up out of thin air.

I'm basing it on what I've heard others say, on and off TV, I've read it somewhere before.

Google "secretly vote for trump"

El Profeta nailed this.  Like a boss. 

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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2020, 02:44:07 AM »
El Profeta nailed this.  Like a boss.

Good times.
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Re: Endorsements 2016
« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2020, 09:50:12 AM »
El Profeta nailed this.  Like a boss.

 ;D