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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2016, 10:16:33 AM »
You're right about a lot of things.  Yes, many powerlifters in the heavier divisions, especially at the top end of 308-SHW are carrying way too much bodyfat and are extremely unhealthy.  They usually have very high blood pressure, horrific crippling lower back pumps every time they try to workout, get winded walking up a flight of stairs, sleep apnea etc.  I've seen several with the tell tale dark/shiny/pitted edema on the lower legs showing heart issues.  Some of the honest ones admit this and know it is horrible for them but admit they are doing it just to be able to lift more weight and hopefully will lose weight when they stop competing.  They literally only care about their total and are willing to wreck their health to just get a few more lbs.  They can be as bad as any bodybuilder on social media.  Posting every workout they do involving one of the big 3 lifts of their exact poundages and reps day after day after day.  

Others are in complete denial and scared to lose so much as a couple of pounds for fear of getting weaker.  Many have tried losing weight only to find their strength start to drop, often due to leverage/support changes and not muscle loss.  They then go into panic mode and start eating very heavy again. They post pictures of their nosebleeds after a hard workout thinking it's "hardcore" when in reality it means you are being stupid and very unhealthy.  They deep down know this too but are in denial.  You'd be amazed at the amount of stimulants and quick acting drugs many of them take on meet day.  

However powerlifting has been slowly changing and in the divisions up to 275, and even some lower 308's, there have been more and more successful powerlifters staying relativity lean, doing cardio and actually looking strong and not just like a big fat dude walking down the street.   Hopefully this trend will continue.  I've been seen it more and more and it looks like many are wising up.  

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2016, 12:13:03 PM »
I would be interested to see a cable crossover world record.

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2016, 01:12:26 PM »
Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.







Everyone would max out the loading areas on those machines. The machine's plate loading area would have to be altered

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2016, 01:51:57 PM »
You'll never see it because of tradition, cost, and a few other logistical reasons. Also part of the fun is the element of danger. Part of the majesty of a #1000 squat, etc.... is all the elements that go into producing it, you'll lose a lot of that with machines.

The best option is a Monolift with chain or strap safety arrangements or the jerk box type stands guys like Blaine Sumner use -

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2016, 04:23:54 PM »
This thread rules.

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2016, 04:32:00 PM »
Powerlifters are a strange breed.  Usually shaved heads to conceal epic male pattern baldness, goatees grown to hide multiple chins and/or turkey necks, espousing hatred for blacks yet possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of Shane Diesel and Lexington Steele videos.



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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2016, 05:43:07 PM »
Covers chest press, squat and deadlift, without using free weights. Still tests strength and reduce injury.







You see that plate bro? It's an iron grip...

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2016, 05:45:51 PM »
Everyone would max out the loading areas on those machines. The machine's plate loading area would have to be altered

If Phil Heath can't max out on it, then no one can.
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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2016, 05:54:26 PM »
You see that plate bro? It's an iron grip...

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2016, 05:54:45 PM »
You're right about a lot of things.  Yes, many powerlifters in the heavier divisions, especially at the top end of 308-SHW are carrying way too much bodyfat and are extremely unhealthy.  They usually have very high blood pressure, horrific crippling lower back pumps every time they try to workout, get winded walking up a flight of stairs, sleep apnea etc.  I've seen several with the tell tale dark/shiny/pitted edema on the lower legs showing heart issues.  Some of the honest ones admit this and know it is horrible for them but admit they are doing it just to be able to lift more weight and hopefully will lose weight when they stop competing.  They literally only care about their total and are willing to wreck their health to just get a few more lbs.  They can be as bad as any bodybuilder on social media.  Posting every workout they do involving one of the big 3 lifts of their exact poundages and reps day after day after day.  

Others are in complete denial and scared to lose so much as a couple of pounds for fear of getting weaker.  Many have tried losing weight only to find their strength start to drop, often due to leverage/support changes and not muscle loss.  They then go into panic mode and start eating very heavy again. They post pictures of their nosebleeds after a hard workout thinking it's "hardcore" when in reality it means you are being stupid and very unhealthy.  They deep down know this too but are in denial.  You'd be amazed at the amount of stimulants and quick acting drugs many of them take on meet day.  

However powerlifting has been slowly changing and in the divisions up to 275, and even some lower 308's, there have been more and more successful powerlifters staying relativity lean, doing cardio and actually looking strong and not just like a big fat dude walking down the street.   Hopefully this trend will continue.  I've been seen it more and more and it looks like many are wising up.  
No human should weigh even near 275 lbs unless they are 7 ft tall or over.

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2016, 06:04:16 PM »
Off topic, but I'd take an old school vertical press/hack squat over Hammer Strength's any day. But I dig their back machines.

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2016, 06:08:36 PM »
Powerlifters are a strange breed.  Usually shaved heads to conceal epic male pattern baldness, goatees grown to hide multiple chins and/or turkey necks, espousing hatred for blacks yet possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of Shane Diesel and Lexington Steele videos.



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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2016, 07:17:20 PM »
Uh because we'd lose.  Machines can easily lift more than humans dumbass.

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Re: How come there are no machines in Powerlifting competitions?
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2016, 07:57:11 PM »
I'm a fan of Olympic lifting to judge the best in iron sports. There are no skillful but weak Olympic champs. Actually Power Lifting is misnamed. It should be called strength lifting. Olympic lifting should be called power lifting since power from a physics point of view is the most important factor in that athletic sport.  Power lifting also has to many tricks from crazy arches, bench and squat apparel gear, shallow squats and finding the easiest way to cut the range of motion like a sumo deadlift.