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Phil "The Gift"Heath, reigning and 5-time Mr. Olympia champion, has parted ways with supplement company, Gifted Nutrition. In this exclusive FLEX interview, Phil Heath explains the end of his association with Gifted Nutrition.

FLEX: What was your motivation for starting Gifted Nutrition?

PHIL HEATH: I was ready to start building my personal brand, what I envisioned as an elite health, wellness, and fitness brand. I wanted to create a company that would offer customers solid products that were tested for superior quality and taste. Other Mr. Olympias before me had started similar enterprises, and I thought I was ready to own a company that would provide me with greater financial stability after my competitive days were over.

In general, your Mr. O predecessors started their lines of products after they retired. Why not wait?

That’s true—it would’ve been a lot easier to work for another company while I’m still competing, but I wanted to take on the challenge of creating my own company. I have a business degree, and I know that starting any new business venture is extremely risky, but it was a move I thought I was ready to make. In hindsight, there might be some wisdom in waiting until retirement, when I could dedicate all my time to overseeing all aspects of the venture. What can I say? Some lessons you learn inexpensively, while others, unfortunately, can be very expensive.

What are some of the things you learned in launching Gifted?

It takes a lot to launch a supplement line! I learned how the sports nutrition industry works—from operations and financial breakdowns to product SKUs and marketing. I also learned that it is extremely difficult to create a supplement company in this over-saturated market, and that, in terms of success or failure, teamwork is a must in every aspect.

Why did you decide to leave the company you started?

Basically, I learned that the company finances had been mismanaged—by others who were in charge of day-to-day operations. Some people will say, ‘Hey, you were the President of GN for the last year—weren’t you also in charge of operations?’ But my role in the company, the job I performed by giving 100% effort toward the goal of growing Gifted, was making worldwide public appearances in support of GN, promoting GN products on multiple platforms—spreading the word wherever and whenever I could—and winning Mr. Olympia.

While I was out doing that job, there were others tasked with carrying out day-to-day financial operations, but they let me down. They let GN down. Sure, there were growing pains early on—for example, there was a manufacturer who falsely claimed they had FDA approval, and then we had to change manufacturers, which meant GN absorbed a huge loss. But finally, when there were signs of internal wrongdoing, conduct I couldn’t condone, it started to seem like there was no light at the end of the tunnel.

How much did you profit from Gifted Nutrition?

I never profited from GN. I never received a paycheck, nor was I reimbursed for my expenses. I paid for my own flights, hotels, food, and other expenses on numerous GN trips, which was contrary to my agreement with GN. To be clear, I did not finance the company, but I did pay for the company payroll twice after finding out that GN was unable to do so. In reality, I am a creditor of Gifted Nutrition.


 
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Phillippe Heath following in the footsteps of Bostin Lloyd
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Phillippe Heath following in the footsteps of Bostin Lloyd

Phil Cheath is moving on to bigger and better things.   ??? ???
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I will be curious tinder who signs him and for how much. I would not sign him. For what? What would be the ROI? Bodybuilding is so niche and the popularity seems to be with the YouTube crowd.

He was effectively the president of the company and is blaming others for it being mismanaged. Why not admit you don't know what you're doing in addition to the market being over saturated.

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I will be curious tinder who signs him and for how much. I would not sign him. For what? What would be the ROI? Bodybuilding is so niche and the popularity seems to be with the YouTube crowd.

He was effectively the president of the company and is blaming others for it being mismanaged. Why not admit you don't know what you're doing in addition to the market being over saturated.
He should get with a shoe company and market a workout shoe. How is it that Crossfit has a shoe line from Reebok, and Phil Heath does not? Especially since the Crossfit shoes are essentially gym workout shoes. There maybe some cache in having 5X Mr. O, The Gift, with a "Count each workout like a Gift" tagline (or something like that) endorsement on the box. They could market the shoe as a gym/Crossfit shoe.

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I doubt most of these new guys with make anything much off the supplement market, unless they venture into prohormone/grey market stimulant/research chemical stuff. No one, in the States at least, cares that champ x endorses company xyz anymore.

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He should get with a shoe company and market a workout shoe. How is it that Crossfit has a shoe line from Reebok, and Phil Heath does not? Especially since the Crossfit shoes are essentially gym workout shoes. There maybe some cache in having 5X Mr. O, The Gift, with a "Count each workout like a Gift" tagline (or something like that) endorsement on the box. They could market the shoe as a gym/Crossfit shoe.

Maybe converse? But like I said what would he bring to the table?

plus how he blamed the company when he was supposed to be in charge is not a good look!

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Signing Phil to a supplement contract will not make that supplement any more lucrative to consumers imo.  With all due respect, he's proven to have an unlikable personality, fighting on social media with fans and of course the Kai situation turned fans away from him.

 
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Maybe converse? But like I said what would he bring to the table?

plus how he blamed the company when he was supposed to be in charge is not a good look!
I don't how he would spin it. Again, Reebok has this Crossfit line, and I don't know of one person who is "the face" of Crossfit. And of course there is the big Crossfit Games and what not. and let's face it, without bodybuilding/weightlifting, Crossfit would not exist. So Phil could spin it that he is the face of this whole genre.

True, but what if he is telling the truth? Wasn't he just the face of GN and it was actually someone else who was behind the scenes?

We just don't have that much info to go on, and what we have is not enough to make a good assessment of the situation.

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I don't how he would spin it. Again, Reebok has this Crossfit line, and I don't know of one person who is "the face" of Crossfit. And of course there is the big Crossfit Games and what not. and let's face it, without bodybuilding/weightlifting, Crossfit would not exist. So Phil could spin it that he is the face of this whole genre.

True, but what if he is telling the truth? Wasn't he just the face of GN and it was actually someone else who was behind the scenes?

We just don't have that much info to go on, and what we have is not enough to make a good assessment of the situation.

He said that he fronted payroll. Sounds like he was more than the face and financing the deal. He could be telling the truth. I think he thought that being mr Olympia would guarantee that people would run to his line but people know that's not how you get big and he's an assclown on social media. Being Mr Olympia is meaningless in the supplement game these days.

However Phil has a history of being the victim all the time so who knows?

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I can only see these guys serving as poster boys for supplements.

Maybe Phil can start another line of supplements, this time by himself.

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He said that he fronted payroll. Sounds like he was more than the face and financing the deal. He could be telling the truth. I think he thought that being mr Olympia would guarantee that people would run to his line but people know that's not how you get big and he's an assclown on social media. Being Mr Olympia is meaningless in the supplement game these days.

However Phil has a history of being the victim all the time so who knows?

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If he openly states he's the PRESIDENT of the company and it fails under his watch what is left to assume?

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Being Mr Olympia is meaningless in the supplement game these days.

Exactly.

The average consumer knows that ALL IFBB pros get the size they do from hormonal supplementation and that over-the-counter supplements provide few advantages if any when compared to Testosterone, HGH and Insulin.

Back in the late 80's & early 90's, many uneducated consumers thought that the pros actually used these products. They would see posters of them drinking the protein shakes and consuming creatine supplements and assumed it was the key to their overall look.

How things have changed since those days...

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Yeah, that business degree if his really paid off.   ::)

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"Health, wellness and fitness"? What does Heath know about these things?

This supplement line (yawn) is his "signature line". He thought doing shit workouts, hammy appearances and injecting drugs was his "job"? Yeah, guy knows what he's doing. Oh, brother.

As well, he says he knew the fart powder scene was "over saturated". What kind of tool jumps into a pool when he knows this, makes his start-up a signature series and then considers injecting drugs and doing what millions of gym-goers do daily as some kind of personal investment in his company?

He was looking for easy cash, period, but is too retarded to have weighed the idiocy of his thinking.

The fart powder business has jumped the shark. Everyone with half a brain knows what's what.

Phil now has a "narrow" window of opportunity. Poor guy might have to, gulp, one day get a real job!

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"Health, wellness and fitness"? What does Heath know about these things?

This supplement line (yawn) is his "signature line". He thought doing shit workouts, hammy appearances and injecting drugs was his "job"? Yeah, guy knows what he's doing. Oh, brother.

As well, he says he knew the fart powder scene was "over saturated". What kind of tool jumps into a pool when he knows this, makes his start-up a signature series and then considers injecting drugs and doing what millions of gym-goers do daily as some kind of personal investment in his company?

He was looking for easy cash, period, but is too retarded to have weighed the idiocy of his thinking.

The fart powder business has jumped the shark. Everyone with half a brain knows what's what.

Phil now has a "narrow" window of opportunity. Poor guy might have to, gulp, one day get a real job!

Delusion of Grandeur.  I think he really believed that him being Mr. Olympia would guarantee a fat paycheck from a supplement line.  However I knew things were off when the line wasn't on bodybuilding.com.

Don't be surprised if you hear more business bad news from this guy.  I don't think he has the smartest people around him *coughs*

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sounds like somebody got fired
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Melvin could just step in, fix the books, and re-sell for a quick mil.  I'm sure I'm way behind him already on that though.

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Exactly.

The average consumer knows that ALL IFBB pros get the size they do from hormonal supplementation and that over-the-counter supplements provide few advantages if any when compared to Testosterone, HGH and Insulin.

Back in the late 80's & early 90's, many uneducated consumers thought that the pros actually used these products. They would see posters of them drinking the protein shakes and consuming creatine supplements and assumed it was the key to their overall look.

How things have changed since those days...

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the target audience for supplements is teenagers and other naive people who havent figured out the deal

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he should post his arms that's all we really wanna see boys

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He should get with a shoe company and market a workout shoe.How is it that Crossfit has a shoe line from Reebok, and Phil Heath does not? Especially since the Crossfit shoes are essentially gym workout shoes. There maybe some cache in having 5X Mr. O, The Gift, with a "Count each workout like a Gift" tagline (or something like that) endorsement on the box. They could market the shoe as a gym/Crossfit shoe.

He's GOT a shoe line.  We even discussed it here on another thread. The shoes come in three styles and cost $189-$215:

http://www.mhillshoes.com

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