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People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« on: July 07, 2016, 06:57:21 AM »
Anyone who has followed my posts knows I love to post about business and hope to start a wildly successful one someday. I see that a lot of others do, too, so maybe this can be an interesting thread.

I've been thinking a lot lately about a guy named Scott Delong. He started a website called  Viral Nova a few years ago. It was a content hoarding site that used the facebook algorithm to make its content go viral. The site was really only him and two part time employees working from his home, but it became one of the most visited sites and, after just a year in existence, sold in a deal that could reach $100mil after certain benchmarks are reached.

Another guy whose business strategy impacted me and surprised me was Jon Oringer. He is the founder of photo licensing agency Shutterstock. He actually started the business because he needed affordable photos to use for an email marketing business he was running at the time. He actually took the agency's first 100,000 pictures himself. In 2012, Shutterstock went public and he reportedly became Silicon Alley's (the east coast version of Silicon Valley) first billionaire.

One of the big differences between these two guys and the majority of people who make fortunes in tech/online sector is that these companies weren't buoyed by venture capitalists. Most of the time, when you hear these absurd valuations for companies, founders see very little of that. After they raise so many rounds of funding, their shares in the company become diluted.

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Re: People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 07:04:03 AM »
Another guy I've always respected who had an unusual path to success is Byron Allen. A lot of people know him as a semi-successful comedian, but he actually owns one of the most profitable independent production studios in the US. Ordinarily,  syndicated television providers distribute their content to television stations for a licensing fee. For years, Allen's company has been licensing its content under a system known as " barter syndication"  in which they provide programming to locally owned stations for free in exchange for ad time in the programming. They then sell the ad time nationally. Though he's not a household name, Allen has built a fortune estimated to be in the $300mil range.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 07:08:46 AM »
Another guy I've always respected who had an unusual path to success is Byron Allen. A lot of people know him as a semi-successful comedian, but he actually owns one of the most profitable independent production studios in the US. Ordinarily,  syndicated television providers distribute their content to television stations for a licensing fee. For years, Allen's company has been licensing its content under a system known as " barter syndication"  in which they provide programming to locally owned stations for free in exchange for ad time in the programming. They then sell the ad time nationally. Though he's not a household name, Allen has built a fortune estimated to be in the $300mil range.

Hi byron allen

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Re: People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 01:29:42 PM »
I know this one guy who started out with humble beginnings in a shack located by the bayou. One day he discovered weight training and  this blubbery, sexually confused young man was able to transform his physique, become a powerhouse in the fitness bodybuilding industry as well as a tycoon in inventing a natural anabolic fat burning combing the powerful effects of bee pollen and cayenne pepper. Oh and he once married a dude.

I cannot recall his name....
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Re: People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 01:38:48 PM »
Anyone who has followed my posts knows I love to post about business and hope to start a wildly successful one someday.

You are blind, and would have a better chance of amassing a fortune by winning the lottery.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 04:01:14 PM »
Hi byron allen
Was I that transparent?  ;)

So, the next guy on the list is an American artist and photographer named Richard Prince. If you've heard of him, there's a good chance it was because of his most recent exhibition called "New Portraits". He took photographs from other people's personal Instagram accounts (without their permission) and sold blown up inkjet copies for up to $100,000. He's one of the most controversial artists working today, largely because his art is consistently in this legal gray area of fair use vs copyright violation. Some people think he is the epitome of everything wrong with the modern art scene. He is reportedly worth $90 mil.

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2016, 04:06:16 PM »
I know this one guy who started out with humble beginnings in a shack located by the bayou. One day he discovered weight training and  this blubbery, sexually confused young man was able to transform his physique, become a powerhouse in the fitness bodybuilding industry as well as a tycoon in inventing a natural anabolic fat burning combing the powerful effects of bee pollen and cayenne pepper. Oh and he once married a dude.

I cannot recall his name....

Sounds like rich piana

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Re: People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2016, 05:36:30 PM »
For every one of these successes there are hundreds of failures but you never hear about them.

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2016, 05:40:57 PM »
For every one of these successes there are hundreds of failures but you never hear about them.

Was about to post the same thing. But still would love to start my own business. Just don't have any dillusions of making several million. Just a good living wage.

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2016, 05:50:18 PM »
For every one of these successes there are hundreds of failures but you never hear about them.

All of these people failed before they were successes. I... uh, I mean Byron Allen... couldn't sell any ad space during the first few years his production company existed. His mother worked for him and he would pretend to be multiple people over the phone so it wouldn't seem like a small potatoes operation.

The lady who started Pinkberry started two flop businesses before it. Pinkberry was actually supposed to be a formal English teahouse and the only reason it became a yogurt shop was because she couldn't get some zoning and liquor licenses she needed.

 Failure is a necessary part of business success. I love reading about the failures that led to successful people's breakthroughs. Almost everyone who has become a business success had huge failures before they made it big.

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2016, 07:07:22 PM »
For every one of these successes there are hundreds of failures but you never hear about them.

Backgrounds are glossed over as well.  Computer guys probably geeked every day of their lives.  The artist moved in his circles, making contacts, learning his industry, overcoming failure, learning what succeeds.  I doubt the marketing guy was slinging burgers the week before.  Whatever ideas these guys had worked because they know what they're doing and already worked hard to acquire their expertise.  These tales of glory make it sound like they more or less fell ass-backward into a big pile of money with their magic idea, but the same idea in someone else's hands wouldn't have made dollar 1.  

You're not a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.  You're not going to get rich with a magic idea that comes to you in a flash of inspiration and is totally unrelated to anything you have ever worked on.  That's not how these guys got rich.  Success is organic.  It's a natural result of competency.  It's not unexpected at all.  You're kidding yourself if you think you're going to walk into a field in which you have zero experience and make a ton of money.  If you're casting around for 'business ideas' then that's a pretty good indication that you don't know what you're doing and you're going to get taken to the cleaners.

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2016, 07:21:52 PM »

You're not a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.  You're not going to get rich with a magic idea that comes to you in a flash of inspiration and is totally unrelated to anything you have ever worked on.  That's not how these guys got rich.  Success is organic.  It's a natural result of competency.  It's not unexpected at all.  You're kidding yourself if you think you're going to walk into a field in which you have zero experience and make a ton of money.  If you're casting around for 'business ideas' then that's a pretty good indication that you don't know what you're doing and you're going to get taken to the cleaners.


Is this part of the post directed at me?  ???  Refer to my last post.

I didn't choose any of the people I've discussed because they were accidental successes. I don't think I presented them that way, either. Maybe there was confusion with Scott Delong, which  really just came down to an attempt at brevity. Delong only had two employees, but he worked 14 hours a day and eventually sold the site because it was too draining to maintain.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2016, 07:23:50 PM »
It's a lot of right place and the right time to succeed. Some ideas a couple years earlier would have failed. One bad contact or business partner can screw you. You basically need a domino effect of good things to happen. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2016, 07:40:32 PM »
It's a lot of right place and the right time to succeed. Some ideas a couple years earlier would have failed. One bad contact or business partner can screw you. You basically need a domino effect of good things to happen. 

In some cases this is extremely true! A great example is Snapchat.

You probably know the basic story: a group of college friends created the app for a class and it became popular.

But do you know how it became popular?

One of the creators' moms told a young neighbor about the app. That neighbor told some kids at school. The app became really popular with kids in that California school district and then spread from there. Two of the reasons it tooks off among those kids were some slight differences from other messaging apps: you could use it with wifi, so it didn't consume your data plan and also you could use it on devices that weren't smart phones. Those small variables turned what was basically a joke app into a company that is valued at around a billion $$.


The thing is once you get that initial traction and attention, maintaining success is not accidental. It really does come down to business acumen.

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2016, 07:41:34 PM »
Is this part of the post directed at me?  ???  Refer to my last post.

I didn't choose any of the people I've discussed because they were accidental successes. I don't think I presented them that way, either. Maybe there was confusion with Scott Delong, which  really just came down to an attempt at brevity. Delong only had two employees, but he worked 14 hours a day and eventually sold the site because it was too draining to maintain.

Yeah.  You're posting success stories from various industries.  It seems willy-nilly.  I get the sense you're looking for a big idea that will make you rich.  I'm just saying that big ideas arrive as a function of experience rather than inspired genius.

A lot of guys seem to think that they're doing something wrong if they're not roaring successes, and that's not the case.  It's ok to not own a yacht.  I don't have one either.

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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2016, 07:53:24 PM »
Yeah.  You're posting success stories from various industries.  It seems willy-nilly. I get the sense you're looking for a big idea that will make you rich.  I'm just saying that big ideas arrive as a function of experience rather than inspired genius.

A lot of guys seem to think that they're doing something wrong if they're not roaring successes, and that's not the case.  It's ok to not own a yacht.  I don't have one either.

You'd be wrong about that. I'm in marketing/advertising and am interested in starting a shop in my field. The main reason I haven't is not lack of ideas, but because I have a family (that may be growing soon, if my wife has her way) and it is definitely a lot more comfortable to have a steady income and not have to worry about growing a new business.

 Even if you were to apply the standard of "willy-nilliness" to my posts, everything I've posted is stuff that would be of interest to someone in my field.  On top of that, I just enjoy talking about business and business strategy. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, though.

Once again, throughout the thread, I feel like I've emphasized that these examples of success were, for the most part, the culmination of trial, error and hardwork. So it seems like we're actually in agreement on that, but for some reason, you think we're not.  ???

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Re: People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2016, 08:10:54 PM »
Alright alright, I'll quit being an asshole in your thread.

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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2016, 08:16:17 PM »
Alright alright, I'll quit being an asshole in your thread.

Thank you , thank you... there are no rules in my threads. We just want everyone to have a good time!  ;D

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Re: People Who Earned Their Fortunes in Unexpected Ways
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2016, 08:39:46 PM »
I know this one guy who started out with humble beginnings in a shack located by the bayou. One day he discovered weight training and  this blubbery, sexually confused young man was able to transform his physique, become a powerhouse in the fitness bodybuilding industry as well as a tycoon in inventing a natural anabolic fat burning combing the powerful effects of bee pollen and cayenne pepper. Oh and he once married a dude.

I cannot recall his name....

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