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Re: OXYCONTIN, ANYONE!?
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2016, 11:41:56 AM »
Corrupt fuckers everywhere.

And opiates ARE a huge problem.

Like religious folks, drug abusers/addicts are weak people.

Love the whole "it's a disease" horsecrap. Being an alcoholic or drug addict is not a disease. What a pathetic joke.

I like when addicts overdose and die. Thinning the herd and all.

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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2016, 11:43:53 AM »
Corrupt fuckers everywhere.

And opiates ARE a huge problem.

Like religious folks, drug abusers/addicts are weak people.

Love the whole "it's a disease" horsecrap. Being an alcoholic or drug addict is not a disease. What a pathetic joke.

I like when addicts overdose and die. Thinning the herd and all.

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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2016, 07:06:39 PM »
Corrupt fuckers everywhere.

And opiates ARE a huge problem.

Like religious folks, drug abusers/addicts are weak people.

Love the whole "it's a disease" horsecrap. Being an alcoholic or drug addict is not a disease. What a pathetic joke.

I like when addicts overdose and die. Thinning the herd and all.

Now addicts bro? 

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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2016, 04:02:32 AM »
Why is it the drug makers fault? anyone with a brain knows it's an opiate, it's clearly addictive like all opiates.

The problem is, what do you give for intractable pain? when anti-inflammatories and other drugs fail?

The patient takes some of the responsibility, how anyone could take something without researching it is beyond me.

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2016, 04:06:09 AM »
I think most level-headed people are at least aware of the risks of overuse/abuse, but are caught off guard when they find themselves in withdrawal after taking something as prescribed. By then, most of the damage is already done and for some its just the beginning of that downward slide.

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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2016, 04:17:19 AM »
Tried these a few times with a glass of wine or two, not my thing it made me constipated. Not good for my bb lifestyle and physique which is more important than a high. I can do a cap of g and feel much better, eat, shit, sleep etc..

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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2016, 06:14:52 AM »
Tried these a few times with a glass of wine or two, not my thing it made me constipated. Not good for my bb lifestyle and physique which is more important than a high. I can do a cap of g and feel much better, eat, shit, sleep etc..

What is "g"?

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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2016, 06:29:38 AM »
What is "g"?

Gamma Hydroxybutyrate

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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2016, 06:36:36 AM »
Why is it the drug makers fault? anyone with a brain knows it's an opiate, it's clearly addictive like all opiates.

The problem is, what do you give for intractable pain? when anti-inflammatories and other drugs fail?

The patient takes some of the responsibility, how anyone could take something without researching it is beyond me.

Obviously you didn't read the story.  It's not about the drug maker making the drug but how they knew something shady was happening and didn't stop it.

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« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2016, 06:44:42 AM »
They helped alot pf people to become drug addicts and didnt give a shit

They would have become drug addicts either way.

Nothing more pathetic than adults getting addicted to prescription pills and then blaming everyone else.

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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2016, 07:06:43 AM »
It's not so much the drug makers fault but the quack drs that prescribe these meds.that's how I basically got hooked.
  In the early 90s you could basically walk into a drs office, pay cash, especially if you had a badge like i did, and proceed to order n get whatever you wanted.
  I started on percs then after a year or so when the dr said i didn't need them anymore I found i could barely function without opiates. My parter said I had a "habit", that i was hooked on the same shit we were busting ppl with.
 I laughed and said no way...until i popped someone with a few buns of smack. Curiosity won and I took a few home with me and tried them. Nothing at 1st,then i did it again weeks later and wham,just what I was looking for my whole life. In 3mnths I was not only using but selling as well. My habit was around $2-300 a day. That is until i figured shooting it would be cheaper.in less than a year i wasted my 3 bank accounts totaling close to $100k. Had money for my retirement, money to fix up my house and play money.
  When i got arrested i was suspended with pay till my UA came back. I was called in 2mnths later, forced to resign and given my 10yr pension check totaling close to $30k. Spent that plus my wife's $10k settlement check from a car accident.

 So do I blame big pharma...no. Can't even place whole blame on drs as it was i who made that conscious decision to use. There were other factors involved with my horrendous decisions. Blaming others or using situations I've gone thru only makes me use harder.
   It's like blaming Colt or Remington for all the victims of gun shots. They only make the weapons but it's consumers or criminals who abuse them.
 There are needs for both pharmaceuticals and weaponry alike.

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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2016, 09:00:18 AM »
It's not so much the drug makers fault but the quack drs that prescribe these meds.that's how I basically got hooked.
  In the early 90s you could basically walk into a drs office, pay cash, especially if you had a badge like i did, and proceed to order n get whatever you wanted.
  I started on percs then after a year or so when the dr said i didn't need them anymore I found i could barely function without opiates. My parter said I had a "habit", that i was hooked on the same shit we were busting ppl with.
 I laughed and said no way...until i popped someone with a few buns of smack. Curiosity won and I took a few home with me and tried them. Nothing at 1st,then i did it again weeks later and wham,just what I was looking for my whole life. In 3mnths I was not only using but selling as well. My habit was around $2-300 a day. That is until i figured shooting it would be cheaper.in less than a year i wasted my 3 bank accounts totaling close to $100k. Had money for my retirement, money to fix up my house and play money.
  When i got arrested i was suspended with pay till my UA came back. I was called in 2mnths later, forced to resign and given my 10yr pension check totaling close to $30k. Spent that plus my wife's $10k settlement check from a car accident.

 So do I blame big pharma...no. Can't even place whole blame on drs as it was i who made that conscious decision to use. There were other factors involved with my horrendous decisions. Blaming others or using situations I've gone thru only makes me use harder.
   It's like blaming Colt or Remington for all the victims of gun shots. They only make the weapons but it's consumers or criminals who abuse them.
 There are needs for both pharmaceuticals and weaponry alike.

Good stuff. You should write a book.

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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2016, 09:03:46 AM »
It's not so much the drug makers fault but the quack drs that prescribe these meds.that's how I basically got hooked.
  In the early 90s you could basically walk into a drs office, pay cash, especially if you had a badge like i did, and proceed to order n get whatever you wanted.
  I started on percs then after a year or so when the dr said i didn't need them anymore I found i could barely function without opiates. My parter said I had a "habit", that i was hooked on the same shit we were busting ppl with.
 I laughed and said no way...until i popped someone with a few buns of smack. Curiosity won and I took a few home with me and tried them. Nothing at 1st,then i did it again weeks later and wham,just what I was looking for my whole life. In 3mnths I was not only using but selling as well. My habit was around $2-300 a day. That is until i figured shooting it would be cheaper.in less than a year i wasted my 3 bank accounts totaling close to $100k. Had money for my retirement, money to fix up my house and play money.
  When i got arrested i was suspended with pay till my UA came back. I was called in 2mnths later, forced to resign and given my 10yr pension check totaling close to $30k. Spent that plus my wife's $10k settlement check from a car accident.

 So do I blame big pharma...no. Can't even place whole blame on drs as it was i who made that conscious decision to use. There were other factors involved with my horrendous decisions. Blaming others or using situations I've gone thru only makes me use harder.
   It's like blaming Colt or Remington for all the victims of gun shots. They only make the weapons but it's consumers or criminals who abuse them.
 There are needs for both pharmaceuticals and weaponry alike.

Shit man. Wow. Thanks for telling your story. I hope you're clean now. If not, IBOGAINE/IBOGA.
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« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2016, 09:25:13 AM »
The Seven Five is a great documentary about corrupt cops in the NYPD.


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« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2016, 10:05:58 AM »
ROCCO, Yea, thanks for your input.

But in this case, it was DR SANTIAGO who ran a huge-scale scam and not merely writing prescriptions for patients.

Here is lifetime MY DRUG experience.

Until recently I never tok anything stronger than an aspirin.

And then just recently some minor complications arose in which the doctor prescribed PERCOSET with little  instructions on the label which said to take one pill as needed every six hours.

But I failed to read the "as needed" part and proceeded to take one PERK every six hours for about a week or less  which resulted in a slightly lower level of pain but an adversion to food and liquid because EVERYTHING tasted like cod liver oil (dead fish).

Someone finally read the label correctly and I came off of percoset entirely. (Fuck the pain!)

.... And here is something that no one seems to believe!

Morphine shots seem to have no affect on me at all!

When I get one (three or four times in my lifetime), I always tell the nurse/doc "That ain't gonna work!" ..... They just offer a polite laugh
and shoot me up anyway.

And sure enough, it 'don't' work.

Is this even possible or am I just an anti-morphine type of critter?

That's my drug story .... but I have been in crowded rooms many full of MJ vapors and find myself laughing at stupid shit.

And one time in a VW in which the driver rolled a joint as big as your wrist which caused so much smoke and confusion (the windows were not allowed to be rolled down) that we had to pull over to the side of the road.

Some of you GetBiggers know this well-known player within he world of lifting heavy things.

And  .... Here's the end .... Medical marijuana is now legal and thriving here in LV. Is that now routine throughout the US?"

They can sell you cookies and vapors and other marijuana de-lites.

There seems to be a hell of a lot of very healthy people participating.



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« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2016, 10:18:43 AM »
STUNT

Are you sure they weren't giving you torodol? First line in most emergency departments I've been to is usually IV torodol, which is an anti-inflammatory and you won't get a rush at all. But it's a clear liquid like morphine and I could see somebody confusing the two. They only give morphine if that doesn't work, or if the condition calls for it outright.

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« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2016, 10:19:56 AM »
I THINK I FAILED TO POST THIS EARLIER .....

NECROSIS, As DIABLO so accurately stated (and I wish I said it first) ….”Obviously you didn't read the story.  It's not about the drug maker making the drug but how they knew something shady was happening and didn't stop it.”

But I will add that …. It appears evident to me that the drug company in question was making billions (?) of dollars all the while knowing what was going on.

Someplace in that article one  high ranking employee said that it was like a GOLD MINE.

Can someone list the sentences that these characters received?

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« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2016, 10:24:41 AM »
NEITHER, In each case the nurse or doc made it clear that I was  getting a shot of morphine. I assume that they have to tell you so by law.

Thanks for that torodol info though.

If I go through this again, I'm gonna mention that.


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« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2016, 10:44:38 AM »
It's not so much the drug makers fault but the quack drs that prescribe these meds.that's how I basically got hooked.
  In the early 90s you could basically walk into a drs office, pay cash, especially if you had a badge like i did, and proceed to order n get whatever you wanted.
  I started on percs then after a year or so when the dr said i didn't need them anymore I found i could barely function without opiates. My parter said I had a "habit", that i was hooked on the same shit we were busting ppl with.
 I laughed and said no way...until i popped someone with a few buns of smack. Curiosity won and I took a few home with me and tried them. Nothing at 1st,then i did it again weeks later and wham,just what I was looking for my whole life. In 3mnths I was not only using but selling as well. My habit was around $2-300 a day. That is until i figured shooting it would be cheaper.in less than a year i wasted my 3 bank accounts totaling close to $100k. Had money for my retirement, money to fix up my house and play money.
  When i got arrested i was suspended with pay till my UA came back. I was called in 2mnths later, forced to resign and given my 10yr pension check totaling close to $30k. Spent that plus my wife's $10k settlement check from a car accident.

 So do I blame big pharma...no. Can't even place whole blame on drs as it was i who made that conscious decision to use. There were other factors involved with my horrendous decisions. Blaming others or using situations I've gone thru only makes me use harder.
   It's like blaming Colt or Remington for all the victims of gun shots. They only make the weapons but it's consumers or criminals who abuse them.
 There are needs for both pharmaceuticals and weaponry alike.

I don't agree with you.  Blame is shared.  It's shared against the manufacturer for essentially making synthetic Heroine. The blame is the doctor who just prescribes it to anyone.  The blame is especially on the doctor's that are acting like drug dealers and yes the blame is also on the patient but not 100%.  if someone was legit injured and needed it and the doctor just prescribed them 90 tabs for a 2-3 healing period then is the patient really to blame?  This happened to me.  He gave me 90 Norcos.  Not a few for pain I had.  Why the fuck did he give me so much and it had 2 refills, so I got two more bottles.  This was before they changed the schedule level making it harder to refill.  So you give a patient a super addictive drug and a lot of it and they get addicted is it really their fault?

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« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2016, 11:10:52 AM »
Opiates are so popular now that during the super bowl there was an ad for a drug to relieve opiate induced constipation.  How the hell doesn't the government see an issue with this?
Opiates are the shit. The doctor gave me some Tramadol for my back. I refused to take them because you can shit on them. one bottle of 30 pills, last me over a year.  I know people abuse them, because the pa was pretty much doing an interrogation on me before the doctor came in.
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« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2016, 11:12:48 AM »
They would have become drug addicts either way.

Nothing more pathetic than adults getting addicted to prescription pills and then blaming everyone else.

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this. We can't have anything nice because some people fuck shit up, and then try to blame the evil "system"
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« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2016, 02:12:00 PM »
There are a lot of extremely weak people out there. Look at Wiggs. Guy's deep mind clasped onto a "software" that it required for survival. That being some Dindu god.

No different than any person who seeks refuge in a religion/cult. Their very weakness allows an easy indoctrination. Once the brainwashing takes hold, it takes the power of Odin to pry them free of the poison.

Drugs are the equivalent. A person's brain can't cope so something is sought to relieve the turmoil.

 

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« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2016, 02:21:28 PM »
Now addicts bro? 

An addict is one who very rarely can be helped. So if he overdoes a dose of something and keels over, it's the nature of things.

It's too bad this person was so weak, but it is also how the pendulum swings.

On a side note, I say this. Be extraordinarily careful with painkilling medications. It's very easy to pervert your system's perception of discomfort/pain. Once you do this, even if you're a strong person, there will be a period of extreme discomfort.

It's cool to manage pain with medications, but unwise to use them in such a way as to eliminate it. If you do this you will likely create trouble for yourself.

Accept that much of life IS pain, both mental and physical.


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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2016, 02:38:03 PM »
Obviously you didn't read the story.  It's not about the drug maker making the drug but how they knew something shady was happening and didn't stop it.

Nothing shady, how could anyone not know about opiod addiction? if it was marketed as non-addictive, sure, but it's a powerful opiate.


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« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2016, 02:40:34 PM »
ROCCO, Yea, thanks for your input.

But in this case, it was DR SANTIAGO who ran a huge-scale scam and not merely writing prescriptions for patients.

Here is lifetime MY DRUG experience.

Until recently I never tok anything stronger than an aspirin.

And then just recently some minor complications arose in which the doctor prescribed PERCOSET with little  instructions on the label which said to take one pill as needed every six hours.

But I failed to read the "as needed" part and proceeded to take one PERK every six hours for about a week or less  which resulted in a slightly lower level of pain but an adversion to food and liquid because EVERYTHING tasted like cod liver oil (dead fish).

Someone finally read the label correctly and I came off of percoset entirely. (Fuck the pain!)

.... And here is something that no one seems to believe!

Morphine shots seem to have no affect on me at all!

When I get one (three or four times in my lifetime), I always tell the nurse/doc "That ain't gonna work!" ..... They just offer a polite laugh
and shoot me up anyway.

And sure enough, it 'don't' work.

Is this even possible or am I just an anti-morphine type of critter?

That's my drug story .... but I have been in crowded rooms many full of MJ vapors and find myself laughing at stupid shit.

And one time in a VW in which the driver rolled a joint as big as your wrist which caused so much smoke and confusion (the windows were not allowed to be rolled down) that we had to pull over to the side of the road.

Some of you GetBiggers know this well-known player within he world of lifting heavy things.

And  .... Here's the end .... Medical marijuana is now legal and thriving here in LV. Is that now routine throughout the US?"

They can sell you cookies and vapors and other marijuana de-lites.

There seems to be a hell of a lot of very healthy people participating.




You misused the drug.