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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2016, 11:48:45 AM »
Reg park taught Arnold all about steroids.

Now, are you going to post a pic of just fuck off to your secluded cove , the only place you feel comfortable taking your shirt off?

Arnold Did Roids Way Before He Ever Met Reg Park. Reg Park Told Him How To Lift Heavy For Better Results.

I'm Not Looking To Attract Schmoes. I'll Leave That Kind Of "Action" All For You. Maybe One Will "Adopt" You!


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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2016, 11:53:24 AM »
Arnold Did Roids Way Before He Ever Met Reg Park. Reg Park Told Him How To Lift Heavy For Better Results.

I'm Not Looking To Attract Schmoes. I'll Leave That Kind Of "Action" All For You. Maybe One Will "Adopt" You!


Nope, you are spouting shit and not backing anything up.
Get yourself on that wonderful vacation and just think how popular you might be if you looked half decent.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2016, 11:55:28 AM »
And taking them to win a plastic trophy makes sense?

Some make a good living out of it. Most don't. Nothing about professional bodybuilding makes sense.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2016, 11:58:18 AM »
Some make a good living out of it. Most don't. Nothing about professional bodybuilding makes sense.
And some do it to get a lot of guys or girls, it's all relative.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2016, 12:03:54 PM »
Nope, you are spouting shit and not backing anything up.
Get yourself on that wonderful vacation and just think how popular you might be if you looked half decent.

You Spouted Shit About Reg Park And Arnold. I Just Posted Scientifically Accurate Diet Information, And You Childishly Threw A Tantrum, Because You Clearly Lack The Self Discipline To Do It. I'm Not Opposed To You Doing Your Drugs. I Couldn't Care Less What You Do. It Means Nothing To My Life. Same As Your Views On Anything At All.

And I Shall Have A Wonderful Vacation, And I Shall Be My Usual Popular Self With The Ladies. You Enjoy "Impressing" The Schmoes.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2016, 12:07:40 PM »
You Spouted Shit About Reg Park And Arnold. I Just Posted Scientifically Accurate Diet Information, And You Childishly Threw A Tantrum, Because You Clearly Lack The Self Discipline To Do It. I'm Not Opposed To You Doing Your Drugs. I Couldn't Care Less What You Do. It Means Nothing To My Life. Same As Your Views On Anything At All.

And I Shall Have A Wonderful Vacation, And I Shall Be My Usual Popular Self With The Ladies. You Enjoy "Impressing" The Schmoes.
Great, so stop commenting in every other thread about people using drugs if it doesn't matter to you.
I only started this thread so I could get you to this point.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2016, 12:10:13 PM »
Nope, you are spouting shit and not backing anything up.
Get yourself on that wonderful vacation and just think how popular you might be if you looked half decent.

Picture of Be There ripped and shirtless coming up in 3, 2, 1...





Just kidding BT   ;D
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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2016, 12:12:05 PM »
Picture of Be There ripped and shirtless coming up in 3, 2, 1...





Just kidding BT   ;D
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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2016, 12:13:08 PM »
Great, so stop commenting in every other thread about people using drugs if it doesn't matter to you.
I only started this thread so I could get you to this point.

I Only Commented When Someone Said That It Doesn't Matter What You Eat If You Use Gear. That's Totally Stupid. I Didn't Say Anything About Drugs, Except That I Don't Use Them.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2016, 12:18:41 PM »
I Only Commented When Someone Said That It Doesn't Matter What You Eat If You Use Gear. That's Totally Stupid. I Didn't Say Anything About Drugs, Except That I Don't Use Them.
Every single achievement anyone has you attribute to them using drugs.
Shut the fuck up about it, in fact stop telling people you don't use them, no one fucking cares.
You could prove you are natty by posting a pic if you like.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2016, 12:22:04 PM »
Every single achievement anyone has you attribute to them using drugs.
Shut the fuck up about it, in fact stop telling people you don't use them, no one fucking cares.
You could prove you are natty by posting a pic if you like.

You Really Need To Take A Course In Reading Comprehension.

And, If I Posted A Picture, Then You'd Say I Wasn't Natty.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2016, 12:29:09 PM »
You Spouted Shit About Reg Park And Arnold. I Just Posted Scientifically Accurate Diet Information, And You Childishly Threw A Tantrum, Because You Clearly Lack The Self Discipline To Do It. I'm Not Opposed To You Doing Your Drugs. I Couldn't Care Less What You Do. It Means Nothing To My Life. Same As Your Views On Anything At All.

And I Shall Have A Wonderful Vacation, And I Shall Be My Usual Popular Self With The Ladies. You Enjoy "Impressing" The Schmoes.
It's not scientific if the studies (and your physique) that have been done contradict what you say...

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2016, 12:36:06 PM »
You can tell by the aggressive nature of Erik C's posts that he is entirely unhappy being dominated by PED users. In fact, he has to remind us that he seeks out feelings of self worth through apparent female acceptance. He will remain a figure of submission and will seek out feelings of self worth through ideology surrounding a supposed superiority of being steroid free and buying female attention.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2016, 12:37:11 PM »
I don't care if someone chooses to use drugs or not, however I have concerns and annoyances about the whole culture in general such as

1-Kids/adults going on juice who can't bench, squat, deadlift, row or shoulder press(all free weights) anywhere near their bodyweight let alone for any quality reps(dont care about the speed of the rep, fast or slow, but at least with decent form). Same problem I have with Natties who bitch about users btw in regards to exercise

2- Kids/adults who jump on all kinds of drugs yet eat/drink too much of the wrong things or worse yet not enough> FFS its not the 80's where everyone had no clue about food, supps or knowledge at fingertips. Same can also be said of whiny natties about the food/supp thing

3- Nobody building any kind of base, yeah I know blah blah blah its a myth, well if its a myth then how come when I stopped training for 4 years and when I got sick 2 years ago I went down to under 160lbs(244 now) yet I still had a 48 inch torso despite being sort of emaciated for me at that weight? Because I build alot of size years ago and my body compensated by laying a frame to hold it. total bro-science but true story. Anyways my point is nobody learns to train without drugs these days, years ago most had a couple years if not a decade before taking the plunge.

4- users not being as strong as they look when under 40. I say under 40 because after while still being able to train heavy, most people have to work around aches and pains not just caused by the gym/sports but everyday life. But yeah I see in the gyms young guys on the gear and they lift fuck all compared to the guys on the gas that I saw in the mid 80's to mid 90's. I don't know about the American Gyms too much aside from the mags but you Canadians from Montreal and Toronto remember the gyms back in the heydays I mentioned. Hell even the guys not doing drugs back then were lifting more for reps than most guys on gas max out on today.

5- too many young guys watching videos from Metroflex gym. Metroflex encourages that nonsense, and there is nothing worse than watching some kid/adult on/off the sauce throwing a pair of 40lbs dumbells on the floor or letting a cable stack crash down upon completing of some spastic retard set like you think you are a twink version of JOJ and Branch. That shit is for retards and to entertain.

6- Natties who cry about drug use yet have no problem eating and drinking all kinds of bullshit

7- Drug users who think that just because they need 10 grams of juice to look like a shit competitor that must mean pros must take 30 grams. Pros are pros not because of the drugs they take but because of the way their bodies can absorb everything and respond to training, drugs, food, rest ,etc. Ronnie and Frank zane could take a small amount of dbol in their 20's eat, and train  and still look 10 times better than 99.9% of the people who workout.

8-Guys who have never taken drugs or who have done one or 2 cycles being known as experts online because they are good as cut and paste.
Ex- I post many stupid faceinhole pics, doesnt make me a photoshop expert, just a guy who knows how to place a head photo into a hole and click save
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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2016, 12:37:37 PM »
You Really Need To Take A Course In Reading Comprehension.

And, If I Posted A Picture, Then You'd Say I Wasn't Natty.

All natties have a false sense of identity, I bet you look more like rosa park.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2016, 12:40:57 PM »
I don't care if someone chooses to use drugs or not, however I have concerns and annoyances about the whole culture in general such as

1-Kids/adults going on juice who can't bench, squat, deadlift, row or shoulder press(all free weights) anywhere near their bodyweight let alone for any quality reps(dont care about the speed of the rep, fast or slow, but at least with decent form). Same problem I have with Natties who bitch about users btw in regards to exercise

2- Kids/adults who jump on all kinds of drugs yet eat/drink too much of the wrong things or worse yet not enough> FFS its not the 80's where everyone had no clue about food, supps or knowledge at fingertips. Same can also be said of whiny natties about the food/supp thing

3- Nobody building any kind of base, yeah I know blah blah blah its a myth, well if its a myth then how come when I stopped training for 4 years and when I got sick 2 years ago I went down to under 160lbs(244 now) yet I still had a 48 inch torso despite being sort of emaciated for me at that weight? Because I build alot of size years ago and my body compensated by laying a frame to hold it. total bro-science but true story. Anyways my point is nobody learns to train without drugs these days, years ago most had a couple years if not a decade before taking the plunge.

4- users not being as strong as they look when under 40. I say under 40 because after while still being able to train heavy, most people have to work around aches and pains not just caused by the gym/sports but everyday life. But yeah I see in the gyms young guys on the gear and they lift fuck all compared to the guys on the gas that I saw in the mid 80's to mid 90's. I don't know about the American Gyms too much aside from the mags but you Canadians from Montreal and Toronto remember the gyms back in the heydays I mentioned. Hell even the guys not doing drugs back then were lifting more for reps than most guys on gas max out on today.

5- too many young guys watching videos from Metroflex gym. Metroflex encourages that nonsense, and there is nothing worse than watching some kid/adult on/off the sauce throwing a pair of 40lbs dumbells on the floor or letting a cable stack crash down upon completing of some spastic retard set like you think you are a twink version of JOJ and Branch. That shit is for retards and to entertain.

6- Natties who cry about drug use yet have no problem eating and drinking all kinds of bullshit

7- Drug users who think that just because they need 10 grams of juice to look like a shit competitor that must mean pros must take 30 grams. Pros are pros not because of the drugs they take but because of the way their bodies can absorb everything and respond to training, drugs, food, rest ,etc. Ronnie and Frank zane could take a small amount of dbol in their 20's eat, and train  and still look 10 times better than 99.9% of the people who workout.

8-Guys who have never taken drugs or who have done one or 2 cycles being known as experts online because they are good as cut and paste.
Ex- I post many stupid faceinhole pics, doesnt make me a photoshop expert, just a guy who knows how to place a head photo into a hole and click save
Growing your frame?
Oh brother.......

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2016, 12:47:20 PM »
why am I reading this

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2016, 12:53:18 PM »
I don't care if someone chooses to use drugs or not, however I have concerns and annoyances about the whole culture in general such as

1-Kids/adults going on juice who can't bench, squat, deadlift, row or shoulder press(all free weights) anywhere near their bodyweight let alone for any quality reps(dont care about the speed of the rep, fast or slow, but at least with decent form). Same problem I have with Natties who bitch about users btw in regards to exercise

2- Kids/adults who jump on all kinds of drugs yet eat/drink too much of the wrong things or worse yet not enough> FFS its not the 80's where everyone had no clue about food, supps or knowledge at fingertips. Same can also be said of whiny natties about the food/supp thing

3- Nobody building any kind of base, yeah I know blah blah blah its a myth, well if its a myth then how come when I stopped training for 4 years and when I got sick 2 years ago I went down to under 160lbs(244 now) yet I still had a 48 inch torso despite being sort of emaciated for me at that weight? Because I build alot of size years ago and my body compensated by laying a frame to hold it. total bro-science but true story. Anyways my point is nobody learns to train without drugs these days, years ago most had a couple years if not a decade before taking the plunge.

4- users not being as strong as they look when under 40. I say under 40 because after while still being able to train heavy, most people have to work around aches and pains not just caused by the gym/sports but everyday life. But yeah I see in the gyms young guys on the gear and they lift fuck all compared to the guys on the gas that I saw in the mid 80's to mid 90's. I don't know about the American Gyms too much aside from the mags but you Canadians from Montreal and Toronto remember the gyms back in the heydays I mentioned. Hell even the guys not doing drugs back then were lifting more for reps than most guys on gas max out on today.

5- too many young guys watching videos from Metroflex gym. Metroflex encourages that nonsense, and there is nothing worse than watching some kid/adult on/off the sauce throwing a pair of 40lbs dumbells on the floor or letting a cable stack crash down upon completing of some spastic retard set like you think you are a twink version of JOJ and Branch. That shit is for retards and to entertain.

6- Natties who cry about drug use yet have no problem eating and drinking all kinds of bullshit

7- Drug users who think that just because they need 10 grams of juice to look like a shit competitor that must mean pros must take 30 grams. Pros are pros not because of the drugs they take but because of the way their bodies can absorb everything and respond to training, drugs, food, rest ,etc. Ronnie and Frank zane could take a small amount of dbol in their 20's eat, and train  and still look 10 times better than 99.9% of the people who workout.

8-Guys who have never taken drugs or who have done one or 2 cycles being known as experts online because they are good as cut and paste.
Ex- I post many stupid faceinhole pics, doesnt make me a photoshop expert, just a guy who knows how to place a head photo into a hole and click save
Get off your soapbox, people are not perfect, most people don't even have the time nor inclination to perfect their process. Even the greatest who make the most sacrifice don't have a perfect process despite PED use.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2016, 12:58:49 PM »
bitter naturals are a bunch of losers who refuse to destroy their health with steroids, but complain that those who do, get gains

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2016, 01:17:57 PM »
Why do drug users care about  what natural trainers say? This whole thread is insecure drug users trying to justify there use through rationalization.  If drug users were really pro drug they would tell everyone who compliments their physique that they don't normally look like this and it's the drugs.  Of course they don't because they want the credit when they know without the drug assist they would look very different.

I don't care what drug users take. I just find it comical that they are so insecure that they would risk health and arrest to be thought of as a man.  I have been around this game a long time. I see the same pattern of bodybuilders. Guys that threw away education, job training and future careers to chase the syringe life style. Then after cycling for a decade or two they have to stop.  It's either finances, arrest or declining health.  Do some escape health problems? It's like smokers saying they know an eighty year old that smokes. It's a risk to health and showing those that escaped the odds is just a bad talking point for a debate. I have seen so many who had to stop juicing  go around showing a wrinkled picture they keep in their wallet that they like show people how they use to look. Many look like they never did a push up in their life. Many have said training without the assist is a waste of time. 

Take what ever you want.  Just don't expect me to give you praise.  You don't deserve it. I know what you would look like clean and it isn't pretty.

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2016, 01:22:54 PM »
Why is it self confessed natties are always moaning about steroid users?

Steroid users never moan about people wanting to stay natty , could their problem by they yearn to be a user but just don't have the guts, or their partners permission?

Haha I know that statement sounds ludicrous but have known a few people in that exact situation. It's pathetic

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2016, 01:23:39 PM »
I guess doing some sterons and pumping out consistently without tearing yourself apart is way healthier than the "all natural + lifting huge weights" route.
Problem may be the ego which might constantly drive one to test themselves with bigger poundages...
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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2016, 01:25:12 PM »
Why do drug users care about  what natural trainers say? This whole thread is insecure drug users trying to justify there use through rationalization.  If drug users were really pro drug they would tell everyone who compliments their physique that they don't normally look like this and it's the drugs.  Of course they don't because they want the credit when they know without the drug assist they would look very different.

I don't care what drug users take. I just find it comical that they are so insecure that they would risk health and arrest to be thought of as a man.  I have been around this game a long time. I see the same pattern of bodybuilders. Guys that threw away education, job training and future careers to chase the syringe life style. Then after cycling for a decade or two they have to stop.  It's either finances, arrest or declining health.  Do some escape health problems? It's like smokers saying they know an eighty year old that smokes. It's a risk to health and showing those that escaped the odds is just a bad talking point for a debate. I have seen so many who had to stop juicing  go around showing a wrinkled picture they keep in their wallet that they like show people how they use to look. Many look like they never did a push up in their life. Many have said training without the assist is a waste of time. 

Take what ever you want.  Just don't expect me to give you praise.  You don't deserve it. I know what you would look like clean and it isn't pretty.
You appear to be quite bitter about those who engage in PED use. Are you OK?

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2016, 01:34:15 PM »
what's funny bout all this is that peeps think that if one jumps on gear they will automatically have a great bod and that assumption is dead wrong

there are plenty of guys with shit genetics who run gear and still look like crap

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Re: Drug envy
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2016, 01:48:03 PM »
what's funny bout all this is that peeps think that if one jumps on gear they will automatically have a great bod and that assumption is dead wrong



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