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[HTexan]

Lee priest jerking off in protein shakes, thoughts?

[dj181]

Not even close, its about 20% if that.

how much of a role does effective training play in your opinion?
 

[stuntmovie]

8, thanks for contributing for those who are serious about their diet.

My question has nothing to do about dieting but rather it's about VINCE GIRONDA's early day 'advanced advice' about dieting and protein intake and other related muscle growth matters.

Back in those days VINCE offered a number of interesting suggestions regarding this subject matter which usually turned out to be major topics of conversation among us Gym Rats, but I never did write any of then down nor can I recall any.

Do you know or can you refer me to a website that may include some of the Vince Gironda suggestions he offered.

I think that some GetBiggers would be interested in what he had to say!

Most of us agreed with his suggestions except for his "No Squating advice". In fact Larry Scott had to visit another gym on leg day even though he was a Gironda Gym member almost exclusively.

Thanks, 8

[Anglo]

Current: 5'11 190 10% bf
Goal: 260lbs 6% bf

Im natural.   What's a good diet?

propioneta
trenbolona acatato
hgh
primobolana acatato

i wotn say doss you can red in bible what i thikn on them

these are the best compounds for first time users to explode into LEAN MEAN MUSCLE MACHINE that get attention and look like a fucking bodybuilder!

gh15 approved

[Simple Simon]

how much of a role does effective training play in your opinion?
 

60%

[The True Adonis]

60%

What do you think is an effective training program.  I am bored with mine currently.  I know I will not gain any more muscle, but I just need something else to do.

Give me a routine that is the most efficient, yet I spend the LEAST amount of time doing. I will follow it to the T and let you know.  (I expect to gain nothing though, but I would like something different than the boring German volume training that I am doing)

[Simple Simon]

What do you think is an effective training program.  I am bored with mine currently.  I know I will not gain any more muscle, but I just need something else to do.

Give me a routine that is the most efficient, yet I spend the LEAST amount of time doing. I will follow it to the T and let you know.  (I expect to gain nothing though, but I would like something different than the boring German volume training that I am doing)

The most efficient is the one which stresses the muscle in the shortest period of time.
Just find exercises that do that and keep doing them.

There are no exercises better than another.

[The True Adonis]

The most efficient is the one which stresses the muscle in the shortest period of time.
Just find exercises that do that and keep doing them.

There are no exercises better than another.

One set of one Exercise enough?  How much?

[K A N N I B A L]

8, thanks for contributing for those who are serious about their diet.

My question has nothing to do about dieting but rather it's about VINCE GIRONDA's early day 'advanced advice' about dieting and protein intake and other related muscle growth matters.

Back in those days VINCE offered a number of interesting suggestions regarding this subject matter which usually turned out to be major topics of conversation among us Gym Rats, but I never did write any of then down nor can I recall any.

Do you know or can you refer me to a website that may include some of the Vince Gironda suggestions he offered.

I think that some GetBiggers would be interested in what he had to say!

Most of us agreed with his suggestions except for his "No Squating advice". In fact Larry Scott had to visit another gym on leg day even though he was a Gironda Gym member almost exclusively.

Thanks, 8

You got a PM

[stuntmovie]

KANNIBAL, Thanks for the link to the Vince Gironda story. I'll start reading it tonite to refresh my memory about his training and dieting advice. As I recall it was pretty damn interesting and many bodybuilders found it a bit controverrsial.

Thanks, again.  Stunt

[8 INCH not biceps]

how much of a role does effective training play in your opinion?
 

Actually the role of training is very small, if you have one dude who half ass it in the gym but is on a strict diet and another dude who go hard in the gym but is on a crappy diet the dude who half ass it in the gym would look better.

[8 INCH not biceps]

What do you think is an effective training program.  I am bored with mine currently.  I know I will not gain any more muscle, but I just need something else to do.

Give me a routine that is the most efficient, yet I spend the LEAST amount of time doing. I will follow it to the T and let you know.  (I expect to gain nothing though, but I would like something different than the boring German volume training that I am doing)

When a bodybuilder gets to his genetic limit the best thing to do at that point if you dont want to juice is to work on your weak points to build a more balanced physique example your legs are lagging so you cut back on your upper body lifts and do legs two to three times weekly, you can also focus on strength because i have seen natties who are at their limit still increase their strength.

[8 INCH not biceps]

8, thanks for contributing for those who are serious about their diet.

My question has nothing to do about dieting but rather it's about VINCE GIRONDA's early day 'advanced advice' about dieting and protein intake and other related muscle growth matters.

Back in those days VINCE offered a number of interesting suggestions regarding this subject matter which usually turned out to be major topics of conversation among us Gym Rats, but I never did write any of then down nor can I recall any.

Do you know or can you refer me to a website that may include some of the Vince Gironda suggestions he offered.

I think that some GetBiggers would be interested in what he had to say!

Most of us agreed with his suggestions except for his "No Squating advice". In fact Larry Scott had to visit another gym on leg day even though he was a Gironda Gym member almost exclusively.

Thanks, 8

I do not know of a website but I am aware of his works I think he was ahead of his time his philosophy was high protein good amount of fats low carbs and plenty of vegetables.

[FREAKgeek]

Do you recommend grapefruit in the diet?

[8 INCH not biceps]

Do you recommend grapefruit in the diet?

Actually grapefruit is very good and should be part of your diet it has a enzyme in there that helps your body to regulate sugar by lowering insulin levels so it helps you to burn fat, you can also take grapefruit extract if you dont want to eat the fruit.

[dj181]

Actually the role of training is very small, if you have one dude who half ass it in the gym but is on a strict diet and another dude who go hard in the gym but is on a crappy diet the dude who half ass it in the gym would look better.

I disagree

right now I'm ripped when veins on my abs and I had McDonald's twice today, for breakkie and din din, and I've just polished off 6 chocolate chip cookies and 3 scoops of vanilla ice cream right before bed

am I genetically blessed? don't think so coz when I don't train hard and effectively I DO NOT look as good

TA, I do up to 20 sets per body part, but about 6-8 of those sets are hard sets

you probably don't need to do that much, but I'd say at least 3-4 hard sets per body part

[FREAKgeek]

I disagree

right now I'm ripped when veins on my abs and I had McDonald's twice today, for breakkie and din din, and I've just polished off 6 chocolate chip cookies and 3 scoops of vanilla ice cream right before bed

am I genetically blessed? don't think so coz when I don't train hard and effectively I DO NOT look as good

TA, I do up to 20 sets per body part, but about 6-8 of those sets are hard sets

you probably don't need to do that much, but I'd say at least 3-4 hard sets per body part

How do you not feel like shit eating that way? You and TA. Your metabolisms need to be studied. Like converting pure garbage into clean energy lol.

[The True Adonis]

When a bodybuilder gets to his genetic limit the best thing to do at that point if you dont want to juice is to work on your weak points to build a more balanced physique example your legs are lagging so you cut back on your upper body lifts and do legs two to three times weekly, you can also focus on strength because i have seen natties who are at their limit still increase their strength.

Don't you think I have already done all of that?

I reached my limit years ago.

[The True Adonis]

How do you not feel like shit eating that way? You and TA. Your metabolisms need to be studied. Like converting pure garbage into clean energy lol.

Whats wrong with Hawaiian Fried Chicken and Hawaiian Macaroni Salad with Rice?

 

[Zillotch]

How do you not feel like shit eating that way? You and TA. Your metabolisms need to be studied. Like converting pure garbage into clean energy lol.

Some can truly eat whatever they like and not get fat. Double cheeseburgers, pizza, ice cream… anything, all the time - abs. Its genetic.

[FREAKgeek]

Some can truly eat whatever they like and not get fat. Double cheeseburgers, pizza, ice cream… anything, all the time - abs. Its genetic.

not even that. Granted, with the roids and high metabolism, and not piling on the calories, I can see some people staying lean. But to have the stable energy and a clear head on regular cookies, ice cream, mcdonalds is just a marvel to me. Just IMHO.

[Go 4 It]

what are your thoughts on the Paleo diet?

[Coffeed]

It depends on whether or not one uses drugs. Drugs change the way the body utilizes food. What would happen if you ate like that as a natural?

Drugs add an important variable to the equation, it's hard to tell if it's the diet, training or the drug combos and dosages that are producing results in the look of the physique.

The only ways to tell for sure is to train naturally, or use the same drug protocol for a very extended period of time. Most drug users are constantly changing their dosages and adding/removing compounds, which changes the look of the body independent of diet and exercise.

All we know is that pro bodybuilders have upwards of 50 lbs of lean mass over naturals, and ALL OF THAT EXTRA MUSCLE MASS IS DUE TO DRUGS NOT DIET OR TRAINING. ALL OF IT!!!!!!! (I'm assuming a diet of adequate calories and protein to support the extra drug mass, and training providing adequate stimulus for max hypertrophy)

Pro's are pro's because they are willing to put in the WORK and SACRIFICE.

How many of you can wake up in the middle of the night to drink a quart of skim milk and take another multivitamin?

That's why they're pros.

[Zillotch]

I mean, just look at the post activity in bodybuilding forums. Most of the posts are in the steroids section, versus the training or nutrition sections.

Getbig:

Steroids: 165308 posts  52%
Training:  87866 posts   27%
Nutrition: 67734 posts   21%

this site has a 'training' section? I had no idea.

[Zillotch]

not even that. Granted, with the roids and high metabolism, and not piling on the calories, I can see some people staying lean. But to have the stable energy and a clear head on regular cookies, ice cream, mcdonalds is just a marvel to me. Just IMHO.

I hear you. For me, fat is the key to mental function and energy. I consume a lot of olive and coconut oil... if I cut fats from my diet - mental focus takes a nose dive.

I damn near consider olive oil to be a cognitive enhancing substance.