Risk vs Reward

[Go 4 It]

Have you guys known anyone who's lives have benefited from choosing to use steroids? I personally know two, one high school friend of mine was being scouted his by some major universities his junior year, senior year comes dude comes back huge, took his game to another level and ended up landing a scholarship to Princeton (full ride), ended up with a degree from there, also played two seasons in the NFL practice squad, but all in all, the decision improved the quality of his life and benefited greatly from it. 
Another friend of mine jumped on juice in college, became a male stripper, dude looked like a blown up version of Leonardo DiCaprio, he juiced for almost 3 years straight, made just over $300,000, he paid off his entire college tuition, and took the rest of the money opened up his own detail shop, never touched the stuff ever again. Again, in this situation I think it really was worth it for him.

[oldschoolfan]

hey go4it

true story back when i was younger i trained at a powerhouse which at the time was a hardcore gym

trained with a kid who was around 25, he told me he was a model etc  he did a ton of roids, would cocktail etc

come to find out, he did gay4pay and flew out to california a couple times a month to film gay porn.   he did all of this to pursue his dream

of becoming a pro bodybuilder. i dont think it panned out.   i think they benefit some but not most.

[Go 4 It]

Yeah, I've known a lot of guys who juiced, but only two were it literally changed the entire course of their lives for the better.

[oldschoolfan]

Yeah, I've known a lot of guys who juiced, but only two were it literally changed the entire course of their lives for the better.

another guy i new qualified for the nationals, he was really into bodybuilding was working with billy smith doing that intrafit deal.

so he decides to buy a small gym.  he ended up losing his ass and going into debt .

[Go 4 It]

Gym business is super difficult, especially if you cater to the bodybuilding crowd

[oldschoolfan]

Gym business is super difficult, especially if you cater to the bodybuilding crowd

yeah you got that righ the start up costs are enormous thats why you dont see to many small gyms anymore

the big ones that are owned by corporations have taken over

[pellius]

arnold did ok

LOL! First thing I thought of.

Here people associate PEDs with bbing. No surprise there and if your goal with juicing is to be a pro bber you are overwhelmingly destined to failure and ruin your health and life if you don't get out in time.
But for most I think PEDs improves the quality and success in life. People think of juicing in bbing terms which is simply drug abuse. Used judiciously the pros outweigh the cons. From the gym rat level looking to score some poon to the athlete who simply will not succeed today without some help. Stallone is 70 years old! Chuck Norris is even older. Compare to people their age they are in a difference league.

Being stronger, fitter and simply looking better than you would be naturally is always a plus. It's no key or guarantee of success but it will simply improve what you are now. Again, I'm talking judicious use. 200mg/wk Test and 300mg/wk Deca hasn't turned me into a superman but compared to others my age I'm way ahead of the game. I feel better and I'm able to do things I wouldn't be able to without a boost and have suffered no side effects. I get blood work done every 3 months and everything is fine.

BTW, I know what it's like to take four months off on nothing and I can attest that being on is much, much better. Even if it meant that I'd die at 70 rather than 80.

I'm not looking to live long but to make the most and enjoy what years I do have.

[Go 4 It]

I'm taking about people that you know personally, not celebrity success stories.

[Jovo]

yea my friend had weird looking ears that wee wonky looking, so he juiced up and got lean and felt less insecure about his wonky ears

[Skylge]

Most nfl players and entertainment wrestlers are on juice, so they benefit financially
In many sports: no gear = no career

[oldschoolfan]

Most nfl players and entertainment wrestlers are on juice, so they benefit financially
In many sports: no gear = no career

yes you are right

i love how people think the rock   is all natural

[Simple Simon]

Have you guys known anyone who's lives have benefited from choosing to use steroids? I personally know two, one high school friend of mine was being scouted his by some major universities his junior year, senior year comes dude comes back huge, took his game to another level and ended up landing a scholarship to Princeton (full ride), ended up with a degree from there, also played two seasons in the NFL practice squad, but all in all, the decision improved the quality of his life and benefited greatly from it. 
Another friend of mine jumped on juice in college, became a male stripper, dude looked like a blown up version of Leonardo DiCaprio, he juiced for almost 3 years straight, made just over $300,000, he paid off his entire college tuition, and took the rest of the money opened up his own detail shop, never touched the stuff ever again. Again, in this situation I think it really was worth it for him.

Juicing seems to have worked out pretty well for you.

[Chadwick The Beta]

The biggest risks I would consider are either getting caught (whether you believe the laws against using steroids/PED's are "fair" or not, the laws do exist and prosecutors generally will not "look the other way") or not being able to quit, even if you are not looking to take the Olympia stage.  

[SquidVicious]

Have you guys known anyone who's lives have benefited from choosing to use steroids? I personally know two, one high school friend of mine was being scouted his by some major universities his junior year, senior year comes dude comes back huge, took his game to another level and ended up landing a scholarship to Princeton (full ride), ended up with a degree from there, also played two seasons in the NFL practice squad, but all in all, the decision improved the quality of his life and benefited greatly from it. 
Another friend of mine jumped on juice in college, became a male stripper, dude looked like a blown up version of Leonardo DiCaprio, he juiced for almost 3 years straight, made just over $300,000, he paid off his entire college tuition, and took the rest of the money opened up his own detail shop, never touched the stuff ever again. Again, in this situation I think it really was worth it for him.

There are no football (or any other athletic) scholarships available at Ivy League schools. Hi Coach!

[_bruce_]

The dudes that I know, "overdid" it.
Low quality gear and too much heavy ego lifting. All of them walk around like former shells... main problem was not the drugs but their idiocy.
I guess for a person with good health and a plan which has room for alterations/corrections along the path, performance enhancing drugs are a great gift.

[Go 4 It]

There are no football (or any other athletic) scholarships available at Ivy League schools. Hi Coach!

dude my bad, it was Stanford not Princeton...and I'm taking about situations of people you've personally known that benefited from steroids, I'm not saying I'm against it, I just think the risk has to be worth the reward.

[OlympiaGym]

I know a guy who takes steroids and has a pretty good life. He has some bull shit job on a cruise ship that allows him to train and eat however he likes. He competes in men's physique and despite his short stature has done pretty well. He also starts a lot of self-serving posts on Getbig.There is no end to his Peter Pan lifestyle. Sound familiar?

[Simple Simon]

dude my bad, it was Stanford not Princeton...and I'm taking about situations of people you've personally known that benefited from steroids, I'm not saying I'm against it, I just think the risk has to be worth the reward.

Why do you insist on shoving your natty status  down peoples throats, no one cares if you take drugs.

[Go 4 It]

Why do you insist on shoving your natty status  down peoples throats, no one cares if you take drugs.

I'm not for or against it really, to each it's own, the point of the thread was I personally know 2 guys in my life the benefited majorly by making this decision, they used steroids to enhance their life, they benefited from the decision immensely.

[Simple Simon]

I'm not for or against it really, to each it's own, the point of the thread was I personally know 2 guys in my life the benefited majorly by making this decision, they used steroids to enhance their life, they benefited from the decision immensely.

Most people who use benefit from it, not just financially, you get the occasional fuckwit who damages their health through use, but they are few and far between.

[Powerlift66]

Yup... A buddy went on to win in Powerlifting and held the bench press world record, went into WWWF for some years, then went onto buying property and is in movies these days.
So yes, was very much worth it for him...

[falco]

Arnold Schwarzenegger. He wouldn't even be in the States if he never used them.

[Tapeworm]

I know a dude who taught linguistics at Princeton but not sure if he hit the sauce to get there.

[mazrim]

I know a dude who taught linguistics at Princeton but not sure if he hit the sauce to get there.

He did. Let's be real here.

[Chadwick The Beta]

I know a dude who taught linguistics at Princeton but not sure if he hit the sauce to get there.

All linguists juice; it's part of the game.

Anyone who suggests otherwise has his head in the sand.