Well....I'm now on TRT, so....

[jdooly]

So what is my correct response if someone asks if I'm natty?  "Um, sort of?" Or just plain "no." 

[gib]

You are not natty if you are on trt

[jdooly]

Not even mad about it.   

[C-BuZz]

Rule of thumb is You are always natty until they prove otherwise.

Use the word BRO a lot & youll fit right in with the youngsters.

[Rudee]

Whats that stuff costing you a month?

[jdooly]

Whats that stuff costing you a month?

  ummm off the top of my head, about 35 bucks including needles.  I have pretty cruddy insurance,  but it does pick up some of the cost.  Pretty cheap for pharm Test Cyp. These are 1ml viles. Small.  Currently just got bumped up to 150mg/week, if anyone cares.  Its only been 2 months, started super low, 100mg/eow.  Then 200mg/eow because that low dose did nothing.  I told my Dr. I would rather inject once a week for obvious reasons, so I am doing that.  Actually got a small bit of gyno. Now I'm going into details, lol. I just started running a bit of Arimidex and its helping.   Im pretty pissed I'm that sensitive to gyno on low Test doses. 

[sync pulse]

I hope this isn't too nosy of a question....but how much belly fat do you have?...The number one predictor of  how much you will aromatize is the amount of belly fat a guy has.

[Van_Bilderass]

I hope this isn't too nosy of a question....but how much belly fat do you have?...The number one predictor of  how much you will aromatize is the amount of belly fat a guy has.

What do you base this on?

[SF1900]

You're kind of like Croatch now. Once you use, you'll never be considered a lifetime natural, no matter what you do or say in the present or future.

[sync pulse]

What do you base this on?

My present TRT doctor, not to mention my sports doctor when I was trying to be an olympic style lifter in my 20's.

It was explained to me that the actual abdominal fat has some sort of catalyst/enzyme that aromatizes test into estrogen.  More fat...more aromatizing.

[gib]

The gyno might just be initially as the hormones kick in. You body get a little confused and starts increasing estrogen to offset the test. I would stay on 200 for a few months and the slowly increase to 250 then 300.

You should post some pics. Would be interesting to see results.

[Svengoolie]

You're kind of like Croatch now. Once you use, you'll never be considered a lifetime natural, no matter what you do or say in the present or future.

How so? Not trying to be snarky btw, I genuinely would like to know.

[Coffeed]

What do you base this on?

Years of internet forum "research."

[Van_Bilderass]

My present TRT doctor, not to mention my sports doctor when I was trying to be an olympic style lifter in my 20's.

It was explained to me that the actual abdominal fat has some sort of catalyst/enzyme that aromatizes test into estrogen.  More fat...more aromatizing.

Ok. It's thought by many that only fat cells contain aromatase but in fact muscle too contains aromatase, IIRC at similar density. I'll post the research later from my laptop.

As far as gyno, many are so paranoid they see gyno where there is none. Some squeeze their nipples looking for it and of course they are sore after awhile.

[Irongrip400]

You're kind of like Croatch now. Once you use, you'll never be considered a lifetime natural, no matter what you do or say in the present or future.

It's probably why he so pissed. Either that or residual roid rage from when he used...

[8 INCH not biceps]

  ummm off the top of my head, about 35 bucks including needles.  I have pretty cruddy insurance,  but it does pick up some of the cost.  Pretty cheap for pharm Test Cyp. These are 1ml viles. Small.  Currently just got bumped up to 150mg/week, if anyone cares.  Its only been 2 months, started super low, 100mg/eow.  Then 200mg/eow because that low dose did nothing.  I told my Dr. I would rather inject once a week for obvious reasons, so I am doing that.  Actually got a small bit of gyno. Now I'm going into details, lol. I just started running a bit of Arimidex and its helping.   Im pretty pissed I'm that sensitive to gyno on low Test doses. 

TRT is for pussies have some balls and do a real cycle and stop wasting time 500mg of test e is a good way to start.

[Fallsview]

Well, you're screwed. Why? Because your HRT dose will never be enough to make you look good and Second, you will never ever be able to add test because you'll be getting frequent blood tests. If you're test goes up they will take you off or lower the small dose you're already on. Congratulations.






#MGGA

[jdooly]

Well, you're screwed. Why? Because your HRT dose will never be enough to make you look good and Second, you will never ever be able to add test because you'll be getting frequent blood tests. If you're test goes up they will take you off or lower the small dose you're already on. Congratulations.



Well I see your point except,  I already look good, lol. Not huge of course, but, I'm almost 40 so, time is not on my side.  If nothing else, now I know how to inject drugs, in case I do decide to go my own way, AAS speaking.


#MGGA

[jdooly]

I hope this isn't too nosy of a question....but how much belly fat do you have?...The number one predictor of  how much you will aromatize is the amount of belly fat a guy has.

Id ballpark I'm about %10, 12 at worst.  I weigh 180, 39 years old, been training since I was 23, no previous anabolics. Blood work showed my natural testosterone levels, on initial blood work, to be 250.

[Coffeed]

Well, you're screwed. Why? Because your HRT dose will never be enough to make you look good and Second, you will never ever be able to add test because you'll be getting frequent blood tests. If you're test goes up they will take you off or lower the small dose you're already on. Congratulations.






#MGGA

With standard testosterone preparations your levels will have plummeted within 6-8 weeks.

It's not like your doc is going to suprise drug test some 50 year old geezer on TRT, but claiming "frequent blood tests" for someone on TRT is as ridiculous as saying Dorian is the GOAT.

[SF1900]

How so? Not trying to be snarky btw, I genuinely would like to know.

Well, a lifetime natural is someone who never used any PEDs. Once you use PEDs, then by definition, you are no longer a lifetime natural, even if you never take them again after that one use.

[SF1900]

It's probably why he so pissed. Either that or residual roid rage from when he used...

Yes, no matter how much he rants and raves about PEDS, the fact of the matter is that he used at some point of his life. Thereby, not allowing him to say he is a lifetime natural. I guess he is angry about this. 

[Coffeed]

Maybe his colleagues all wear a "Lifetime Natty" lapel pin???