Better at their peak, Samir Bannout or Shawn Ray?

[oldschoolfan]

It's not even a close call.  Samir.

Plus, Samir never donned the hair piece.

shawns a whiney asshole to .

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Iceman1981]

Tough one. Samir 83' vs. Shawn 94'.

Certain poses Shawn looked a little off, but Samir looked great in pretty much all of the mandatory poses. Samir has the edge though.

[FitnessFrenzy]

shawn ray

[Royalty]

Shawn Ray never won a show after the 1991 Arnold Classic. And he competed until 2001.

That proves that the 90's was the toughest competition era

[Nether Animal]

Shawn Ray never won a show after the 1991 Arnold Classic. And he competed until 2001.

That proves that the 90's was the toughest competition era

He had a lot of gas left in the tank, too

[njflex]

when you see early pic's of them starting out Samir 'skinny'...ray was ahead esp as a teen even tho he was leg heavy early on .

posing both were great posers..

SAMIR looked incredible early 80's ,great lines,shape,conditioning,lat insertions/back for days.good balance top to bottom.88 and on he got too heavy and never regained top form..ray has that advantage over him.

ray ..better muscle bellies'full'over Samir,bigger legs'depending on yr sometimes they were stumpy/chunky looking 'rays hands mm is still one of the best looking ,his back was very good as well,his build was more compact /thicker than Samir who had a aesthetic'when lighter'look and had longer limbs than ray which created that illusion as well..

I say ray due to overall top placing's/yrs in top shape,overall powerful look to build..

[funk51]

who past the test of time and looks better now?

[mr.turbo]

samir has a better structure and proportions

[Dave D]

when you see early pic's of them starting out Samir 'skinny'...ray was ahead esp as a teen even tho he was leg heavy early on .

posing both were great posers..

SAMIR looked incredible early 80's ,great lines,shape,conditioning,lat insertions/back for days.good balance top to bottom.88 and on he got too heavy and never regained top form..ray has that advantage over him.

ray ..better muscle bellies'full'over Samir,bigger legs'depending on yr sometimes they were stumpy/chunky looking 'rays hands mm is still one of the best looking ,his back was very good as well,his build was more compact /thicker than Samir who had a aesthetic'when lighter'look and had longer limbs than ray which created that illusion as well..

I say ray due to overall top placing's/yrs in top shape,overall powerful look to build..

Good points plus Ray earned more money as a competitive bodybuilder, so that is also in his favor as being better....

Lol classic Getbig wrong answer to the question.

The question was who had a better peak, as in who looked better at their respective one time bests. Not who had the longest and more successful career during their peak years.

Anyhow I say 83 Samir beats anything Ray.

I'll extend going off topic  and ask if Dexter 's Olympia winning build is better than anything Shawn offers?

[WalterWhite]

when you see early pic's of them starting out Samir 'skinny'...ray was ahead esp as a teen even tho he was leg heavy early on .

posing both were great posers..

SAMIR looked incredible early 80's ,great lines,shape,conditioning,lat insertions/back for days.good balance top to bottom.88 and on he got too heavy and never regained top form..ray has that advantage over him.

ray ..better muscle bellies'full'over Samir,bigger legs'depending on yr sometimes they were stumpy/chunky looking 'rays hands mm is still one of the best looking ,his back was very good as well,his build was more compact /thicker than Samir who had a aesthetic'when lighter'look and had longer limbs than ray which created that illusion as well..

I say ray due to overall top placing's/yrs in top shape,overall powerful look to build..

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Well said NJ. And peak to peak I still take Ray.

[njflex]

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Well said NJ. And peak to peak I still take Ray.

THANKS,,,MY INNER SCHMOE CAME OUT FOR THAT ONE..

[Ronnie Rep]

Tough one Wiggs..........but I`d have to go with Bannout but only in `83 never before or after.

Agree he was perfect in the 83 O. His back set the standard.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[ChristopherA]

Samir's back was sick! Shawn might beat him from the front by a little but not enough to offset Samir's advantage when he turns around. Interesting topic though. Samir best "small" bb ever? Going by that one showing he's hard to beat. Better than Labrada, Ray, Gaspari, etc. Lewis? Always been pretty impressed with what Lewis brings to the table. Dude is sharp as fuck every contest too. Sick wheels

[Disgusted]

BDB on Samir is perfection. Beats all of todays guys including Phil.

[Simple Simon]

BDB on Samir is perfection. Beats all of todays guys including Phil.

There isnt a clip of it anywhere but in the 89 Olympia when he hit a BDB shot it was like an explosion of fibres.

[Royalty]

Bertil Fox and Mohammed are getting destroyed there

[illuminati]

Tough one this.
Shaun -- Fuller / Rounder muscle bellies
Great condition, and very consistent

Sammir -- Very aesthetic -- One of the best backs
& back double biceps -- Looked fantastic in 82/83/84

Stood side by side each at their best !!!
Really wouldn't want to call it.

Both Great Physiques yet very different.

[Disgusted]

There isnt a clip of it anywhere but in the 89 Olympia when he hit a BDB shot it was like an explosion of fibres.

I was 2nd row when he won the Pittsburg show. Fibers dancing everywhere. That's shit you do not see today.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Bertil Fox and Mohammed are getting destroyed there

Yeah and when people say Bertil was robbed in 83 I'm like did you see any of the pictures? lol to think he was just 188lbs

[Nether Animal]

Yeah and when people say Bertil was robbed in 83 I'm like did you see any of the pictures? lol to think he was just 188lbs

Damn Samir's lats attach nearly at his waist

[NarcissisticDeity]

Damn Samir's lats attach nearly at his waist

Yeah he had a shorter torso and longer legs

[ChristopherA]

Ok, next question. Would Haney have won in 84 if Samir showed up in his 83 condition? Did he even defend his title?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ok, next question. Would Haney have won in 84 if Samir showed up in his 83 condition? Did he even defend his title?

I think Haney would have , he was just to big at that point. It would be close