fasted cardio , 1st thing in the morning? good/bad or what...

[Howard]

The most effective way I've found to do cardio for fat loss, is "fasted cardio".
I get up , take a thermogenic /pre workout and waddle over to the treadmill or stair climber.

The science behind this states that being in a fasted state , results in a higher % of stored fat to be burned.
The naysayers claim doing so, will burn more muscle tissue.

I think BOTH are true...huh?

It depends on your individual metabolism.

Naturally bulky dudes who can gain size easily often have problems getting ripped.
I'm in this camp and my main concern is losing fat to look ripped.
Thus, fasted cardio works wonders in helping me get ripped faster.

However, I've seen naturally thin guys, who lose muscle rapidly when doing fasted cardio.
Doing so, can cause them to end up looking like a surf board with abs LOL.

[Thin Lizzy]

Digestion is an energy intensive activity. The more blood diverted to the digestive system, the less available for the working muscles. Fasted cardio for the win.

That said, people who view cardio as a weight loss tool almost invariably overeat. It's all about diet.

[Howard]

Digestion is an energy intensive activity. The more blood diverted to the digestive system, the less available for the working muscles. Fasted cardio for the win.

That said, people who view cardio as a weight loss tool almost invariably overeat. It's all about diet.

I agree 100%. Cardio without dieting doesn't get much blubber loss.

[8 INCH not biceps]

Actually fasted cardio is a good thing when you have a meal you release insulin which blocks growth hormone so you do not get a great fat burning effect, now doing cardio fasted means that growth hormone levels are high so you burn more fat, I would recommend that you take some caffeine and yohimbine to help the fat burning effects.

[Grape Ape]

You live on five acres.

Go outside and move, use the treadmill only when that's impossible.

[Royalty]

Actually fasted cardio is a good thing when you have a meal you release insulin which blocks growth hormone so you do not get a great fat burning effect, now doing cardio fasted means that growth hormone levels are high so you burn more fat, I would recommend that you take some caffeine and yohimbine to help the fat burning effects.

100% verbatim from Dave Palumbo's radio program

[polychronopolous]

The most effective way I've found to do cardio for fat loss, is "fasted cardio".
I get up , take a thermogenic /pre workout and waddle over to the treadmill or stair climber.

The science behind this states that being in a fasted state , results in a higher % of stored fat to be burned.
The naysayers claim doing so, will burn more muscle tissue.

I think BOTH are true...huh?

It depends on your individual metabolism.

Naturally bulky dudes who can gain size easily often have problems getting ripped.
I'm in this camp and my main concern is losing fat to look ripped.
Thus, fasted cardio works wonders in helping me get ripped faster.

However, I've seen naturally thin guys, who lose muscle rapidly when doing fasted cardio.
Doing so, can cause them to end up looking like a surf board with abs LOL.

Go outside you pasty fuck.

[Simple Simon]

or what.

[8 INCH not biceps]

100% verbatim from Dave Palumbo's radio program

I have being saying this long before dave radio show but its good to know that another person in the industry has similar ideas on cardio.

[Wiggs]

100% verbatim from Dave Palumbo's radio program

Lololol....outed! Dave Is great though.

[Grape Ape]

100% verbatim from Dave Palumbo's radio program

Gayer than listening to Palumbo's radio progrmam, gaymar barca.

[Howard]

You live on five acres.

Go outside and move, use the treadmill only when that's impossible.

I'm retarded and might get lost.
Plus, I'd risk crossing a 12" deep stream which I might drown in.

The basement treadmill is safe and I won't drown or get lost.

[Howard]

Go outside you pasty fuck.

I prefer albino homo, but, pasty fuk will suffice.

[SquatsRule]

I'm pro walking on treadmill at incline in air conditioned room. Outdoor cardio in humid 90 degree weather sucks balls. Fasted cardio works good for me, I just have a hard time waking up an hour early.

[OlympiaGym]

Naturally bulky dudes who can gain size easily often have problems getting ripped.
I'm in this camp and my main concern is losing fat to look ripped.
Thus, fasted cardio works wonders in helping me get ripped faster.

You are deluded. You don't gain size easily (fat doesn't count) and you've never been ripped either. HTH.

[Grape Ape]

I'm retarded and might get lost.

That would mean more cardio for you and less posting - win-win for all involved.

[Hypertrophy]

The most effective way I've found to do cardio for fat loss, is "fasted cardio".
I get up , take a thermogenic /pre workout and waddle over to the treadmill or stair climber.

The science behind this states that being in a fasted state , results in a higher % of stored fat to be burned.
The naysayers claim doing so, will burn more muscle tissue.

I think BOTH are true...huh?

It depends on your individual metabolism.

Naturally bulky dudes who can gain size easily often have problems getting ripped.
I'm in this camp and my main concern is losing fat to look ripped.
Thus, fasted cardio works wonders in helping me get ripped faster.

However, I've seen naturally thin guys, who lose muscle rapidly when doing fasted cardio.
Doing so, can cause them to end up looking like a surf board with abs LOL.

I haven't seen the fast/no fast make a difference- only restricting calories did. I was a competitive cyclist for years, btw, and the only reason I didn't eat much 3 hours before races or training  was because I'd throw it up, lol

[Royalty]

I have being saying this long before dave radio show but its good to know that another person in the industry has similar ideas on cardio.

Sure. Ok. Thanks for your input "Dave"

[Red Hook]

I haven't seen the fast/no fast make a difference- only restricting calories did. I was a competitive cyclist for years, btw, and the only reason I didn't eat much 3 hours before races or training  was because I'd throw it up, lol

Cool, road or off road?  as for me, all road and loving it. How many miles are you doing per week?

[Red Hook]

Howard you are old enough to be a great grand father, married 10 times and kiss your dogs in the mouth.. why not ask your doctor to place you on HRT? 

[Submissionfytr]

This is a great question, and wonder if anyone can conclusively say one or the other.  I was wondering this myself after reading something in MD mag fees years ago, can't remember if it was George Farah or another trainer making the claim that basically fasted cardio was a myth, you do burn much more muscle making any fat loss less important, etc. The other idea was really interesting to me and still has me confused is that fasted cardio wasn't even as effective due to not having any nutrients and carbs would render the cardio so much less productive due less energy then you could expend later in the day.  Made me think critically and admit that you definitely seem to be able to push much harder then if you are starving and had no carbs.  Any opinions?

[NelsonMuntz]

it works best when I do it rather than type about it.

[Coffeed]

Getting a six pack needs to stay about as scientific as not stuffing your face.

[Thin Lizzy]

This is a great question, and wonder if anyone can conclusively say one or the other.  I was wondering this myself after reading something in MD mag fees years ago, can't remember if it was George Farah or another trainer making the claim that basically fasted cardio was a myth, you do burn much more muscle making any fat loss less important, etc. The other idea was really interesting to me and still has me confused is that fasted cardio wasn't even as effective due to not having any nutrients and carbs would render the cardio so much less productive due less energy then you could expend later in the day.  Made me think critically and admit that you definitely seem to be able to push much harder then if you are starving and had no carbs.  Any opinions?

That people think that they're starving because they haven't eaten in 12 hours is one of the reasons that there are so many fat fucks walking around.

Because you have no food in your stomach doesn't mean you have no fat or glycogen stores.

Coffeed and NM are spot on. People talk this shit to death and turn it into a Biochemistry Thesis because they don't want to put the fork down.

[Simple Simon]

I am supposed to be on a bulk at the moment, I have been off my food for a few days (appetite just off), I have tightened up and look about 6 weeks from stepping onstage.
No diet, no selective eating, no specific foods.

Eat less get in shape.

simples.