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John McLaughlin has died.
« on: August 16, 2016, 01:21:07 PM »
Started The McLaughlin Group.


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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2016, 01:21:39 PM »
RIP.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2016, 01:45:59 PM »
Used to love watching the show.  But toward the end, he was running a con.  It was like "here's the entire reasonable spectrum of American politics" when it simply wasn't so.  Not at all.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2016, 01:55:58 PM »
Used to love watching the show.  But toward the end, he was running a con.  It was like "here's the entire reasonable spectrum of American politics" when it simply wasn't so.  Not at all.

Agreed...you could tell he looked really sick in his recent shows

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2016, 01:59:19 PM »
He was a notorious cheapskate.  According to Jack Germond (one of many people who became a McLaughlin "enemy" over time), he paid them only 1800 month and with absolutely no allowances of any sort.  And Germond gave proof that the "unrehearsed" claim was ridiculously false, too.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2016, 02:01:34 PM »
Agreed...you could tell he looked really sick in his recent shows

Yeah, a few times along the way he looked ill and I feared it was near the end for him.  But remember, too, he'd been in his 70s or better for the past two decades.  So he'd been "old" for a very long time.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2016, 02:10:05 PM »
One of the more brutal moments on the show.  This was Lawrence O'Donnell's last appearance, despite having been a regular guest up to this point.  Fact is, anyone who said anything the big guy didn't like, could kiss their ass-end away.


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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2016, 02:13:35 PM »
^ I really love the look on Buchanan's face.  And how JM slipped in the unanswered "Are you a Christian?"

Classic McLaughlin Group.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2016, 06:59:20 PM »
John McLaughlin, host of confrontational TV show, dead at 89

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/john-mclaughlin-host-of-confrontational-tv-show-dead-at-89/ar-BBvI08J?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

NEW YORK (AP) — John McLaughlin, the conservative political commentator and host of the namesake long-running television show that pioneered hollering-heads discussions of Washington politics, has died. He was 89.

McLaughlin died Tuesday morning, according to an announcement on the Facebook page of "The McLaughlin Group" series. No cause of death was mentioned, but an ailing McLaughlin had missed the taping for this past weekend's show — his first absence in the series' 34 years.

Since its debut in April 1982, "The McLaughlin Group" upended the soft-spoken and non-confrontational style of shows such as "Washington Week in Review" and "Agronsky & Co." with a raucous format that largely dispensed with politicians. It instead featured journalists quizzing, talking over and sometimes insulting each other. In recent years, the show billed itself as "The American Original" — a nod to all the shows that copied its format.

"John McLaughlin was a TV institution for generations of Americans," tweeted House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. "We will miss his contagious spirit & tireless dedication."

In an interview with The Associated Press in 1986, McLaughlin said he felt talk shows hadn't kept pace with changes in television.

"I began the group as a talk show of the '90s," he said, adding that he thought informing an audience could be entertaining: "The acquisition of knowledge need not be like listening to the Gregorian chant."

Critics said the show was more about show business and entertainment than journalism and politics. They said it celebrated nasty posturing, abhorred complexity and featured a group of mostly aging conservative white men spouting off on topics they knew little about.

"Whether it was the guerrilla strategy of Afghan mujahedeen or the next open-market operation by the Federal Reserve Board, the members of the group always seemed to have just gotten off the phone with the guy in charge," Eric Alterman charged in his 2000 book, "Sound and Fury: The Making of the Punditocracy."

But the format was hugely successful. As McLaughlin himself might have said, on a probability scale from zero to 10 — zero meaning zero probability, 10 meaning metaphysical certitude — in the show's heyday, the chances that the Washington establishment were faithfully tuning in each week was definitely a 10.

The show began with McLaughlin declaring, "Issue One!" and often featured the journalists pontificating on four or five issues. It would end with the journalists forecasting the future — usually with a high degree of certainty, if not accuracy — and McLaughlin declaring, "Buh-bye!"

The show made stars of its panelists, who could go on to command high-priced speaking engagements and even played themselves in movies such as "Independence Day," ''Mission: Impossible" and "Watchmen." McLaughlin also played himself on episodes of "ALF" and "Murphy Brown" and was ridiculed as a speed-talking egomaniac by Dana Carvey on "Saturday Night Live."

The current group of panelists included Pat Buchanan, Eleanor Clift, Tom Rogan and Clarence Page.

"Sad news," Page tweeted. "We lost John McLaughlin this morning. I hear that he smiled before he passed. His final gift to us."

"My parents made us watch him every week," tweeted former "Saturday Night Live" player and current "Late Night" host Seth Meyers, "which made the SNL sketches all the sweeter."

The 1982 pilot featured syndicated columnists Jack Germond and Robert Novak as well as Chuck Stone of the Philadelphia Daily News and Judith Miller of The New York Times. Stone and Miller were quickly replaced by Pat Buchanan and Morton Kondracke.

Fred Barnes and Eleanor Clift were added in 1985, after Buchanan left to become Reagan's communications director, giving the show its first woman.

In July 1984 McLaughlin began hosting "John McLaughlin's One on One," an in-depth interview program. He also hosted a CNBC show, "McLaughlin," from April 1989 to January 1994.

McLaughlin could be a hard boss to work for. A 1990 article in The Washington Post Magazine by Alterman quoted former McLaughlin staffers Anne Rumsey, Kara Swisher and Tom Miller recalling instances of petty tyranny and McLaughlin leering at female employees.

His former office manager, Linda Dean, filed a $4 million lawsuit against McLaughlin in 1988, claiming she was fired after protesting his unwanted sexual advances. McLaughlin denied the allegations; the suit was settled out of court in December 1989.

McLaughlin and his wife of 16 years, former Labor Secretary Ann Dore McLaughlin, divorced three years later.

In 1997, McLaughlin, then 70, married 36-year-old Cristina Vidal, the vice president of his production company. They divorced in 2010.

Born March 29, 1927, McLaughlin grew up in a middle-class neighborhood of Providence, Rhode Island, where his father was a furniture salesman. He trained for the priesthood at Shadowbrook, a small Jesuit seminary in western Massachusetts, and earned master's degrees in philosophy and English at Boston College and a doctorate in communications at Columbia University.

He worked as an editor at a Jesuit weekly and gave lectures on sex before shocking his friends in 1970 by switching parties to run unsuccessfully as a dovish, anti-war Republican against Rhode Island's hawkish incumbent Democratic U.S. senator.

He opened a consulting firm and gave up his Roman collar in 1975 to marry longtime friend Dore, who served as secretary of labor from December 1987 to January 1989. McLaughlin became a talk radio show host on a Washington station in 1980, but only lasted a year.

In 1982, he persuaded wealthy friend Robert Moore, a former aide in the Nixon White House, to underwrite a new form of public affairs television — and a juggernaut was born.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2016, 07:12:11 PM »
^ Very nice, Gregzs.  Thank you.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2016, 05:07:33 AM »
Grew up watching his show... and loved it.  Even his short lived interview show John McLaughlin's One on One.

Bye Bye!

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2016, 06:01:47 AM »
He was a notorious cheapskate.  According to Jack Germond (one of many people who became a McLaughlin "enemy" over time), he paid them only 1800 month and with absolutely no allowances of any sort.  And Germond gave proof that the "unrehearsed" claim was ridiculously false, too.

4 hours a month not bad for 1800 to sit there and yap. 

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2016, 09:05:54 AM »
4 hours a month not bad for 1800 to sit there and yap. 

They had to put more into their appearances than what the opening claims on the show might lead someone to believe ("unrehearsed" "hard talk" and all that). 

McLaughlin's girlfriend/"production assistant" would be in contact at least a few times leading up to each show to try to get everyone synched, which required time and effort for the panelist.  That's on top of the time and effort needed to prepare material to meet the "Issue One" and so forth.  Then it would require checking and re-checking everything throughout the week, too, to make sure it's all current by taping time -- worst thing in the world would be to claim false info without realizing it until too late.

I doubt they cleared even 100 per hour for their effort.  But since it trucked-on so well without a shortage of panelists, it tells me that they found other methods to make $$ by way of their presence on the show.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2016, 12:15:12 PM »

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2016, 12:21:52 PM »
This one is really funny.


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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2016, 12:26:07 PM »
This is an episode from May 1, 1992, right after the "Rodney King Riots" in Los Angeles.


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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2016, 01:00:44 PM »
^ I watched that one a few years ago, and just watched it again.  Eleanor Clift was pretty hot.  But what a bunch of hypocrites, when they talk about the solutions for the poor communities -- every single one of them but Germond went on to push for Globalism in the following years.

And what a fucking POS Daryl Gates was.  This guy actually predicted the riots, but he didn't prepare for them.  The LAPD boss.

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2016, 01:03:08 PM »
Sad.


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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2016, 01:38:05 PM »
One of the more amusing moments involving Freddie "The Beetle" Barnes, is found in here (from the LA Riots episode).


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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2016, 09:57:25 AM »
^ I watched that one a few years ago, and just watched it again.  Eleanor Clift was pretty hot.  But what a bunch of hypocrites, when they talk about the solutions for the poor communities -- every single one of them but Germond went on to push for Globalism in the following years.

And what a fucking POS Daryl Gates was.  This guy actually predicted the riots, but he didn't prepare for them.  The LAPD boss.

you do know that you basically lost credibility with this statement, right???

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2016, 11:09:36 AM »
you do know that you basically lost credibility with this statement, right???

Who are you kidding - you would hook up w 90 yo if you could. 

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2016, 11:36:11 AM »
Who are you kidding - you would hook up w 90 yo if you could. 

A 90 yr old wouldn't want you......what can you offer them besides student loan debt???????

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2016, 12:24:51 PM »
you do know that you basically lost credibility with this statement, right???

Was it TMI for me to admit thinking that?  ;D

I hadn't noticed before, really.  Something about watching that clip from 1992 gave me the thought.

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2016, 05:47:13 PM »
The show will end, reports say.   :(

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Re: John McLaughlin has died.
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2016, 05:57:03 PM »
Wow, I stopped watching McLaughlin last year because I just couldn't take it becoming MSM with no maverick voices left anymore.  But I guess Pat Buchanan is backing Trump in a big way, according to his feeds (just saw on the MG site).