RUSSIA TO CREATE ITS OWN HOLLYWOOD

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Russia wants to have it's own Hollywood to help push agendas and use that outlet of push propaganda. How much money would be needed to start such a thing? Would a trillion dollars get things moving? Or would it take much more money? There's endless amounts of untapped resources in the form of actors/movie producers etc who will never get a chance in America's Hollywood because they're not part of "their" tribe. Do you think Russia could someday be a powerhouse and help mold the fabric of the Globe using film/media like Hollywood has done?

http://www.filmjournal.com/content/russia-create-its-own-hollywood-crimea

[The True Adonis]

About 350.

[Thin Lizzy]

Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.

If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.

If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...

American Hollywood has "jumped the shark". They keep recycling the same type of garbage except doing it more and more gayer... It's not because there aren't good screenplays. It's because they're stubborn and wont shy away from what made Hollywood-Hollywood and only care about the agenda/propaganda instead of just making good movies.

[Walter Sobchak]

American Hollywood has "jumped the shark". They keep recycling the same type of garbage except doing it more and more gayer... It's not because there aren't good screenplays. It's because they're stubborn and wont shy away from what made Hollywood-Hollywood and only care about the agenda/propaganda instead of just making good movies.

I see an advertisement for a Ben Hur remake.....I agree, Hollywood sucks moist ass and they can stuff the shit they try to push down our throats up their collective asses

[Tapeworm]

Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.

If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...

Sounds like someone hasn't heard of a little film called Ghostbusters III.

[chaos]

the Brat Pack...

Most getbiggers will have to google this to know what you're talking about.

[Dokey111]

Sounds like someone hasn't heard of a little film called Ghostbusters III.

 

[Tapeworm]

Is Busters of Capitalist Ghostses
People's Armed Struggle Among Stars
People's Trek Among Stars
Citizen Lenin
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Gone With Wind

[Marty Champions]

brilliant move just make another america with no pc bullshit will make people spend money ect

make another america


they have to this route no one knows shit about russia

[Grape Ape]

Too late. Hollywood is dead. Like many other old school companies, they didn't adapt well to the new media and now no one gives a shit about fucking useless actors and garbage movies. There are too many alternatives.

If I'm wrong, tell me who are today's young stars, the 20 something equvalent of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Meg Ryan, Demi Moore, Reese Westherspoon, the Brat Pack...

Hollywood has totally adapted to new media.  Are you kidding?  They're making gazillions of dollars.

[Marty Champions]

hollywood is an economy

1 movie gross say 30 million is just enoug pay for 70 people in it

[Las Vegas]

Great thread, AS.  Hollywood is just the "entertainment" wing of the msm.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Great thread, AS.  Hollywood is just the "entertainment" wing of the msm.

Its too fucking much. Seth Rogan shouldn't be banging hot fucking non jew blonds on film. That in my opinion is where these people are taking it way too far. Imagine if the negrows had this power. We would have spike Lee as the leading man in every other movie. Time for Russia to fix this fucking shit. What the fuck is going on In America?

[Las Vegas]

Its too fucking much. Seth Rogan shouldn't be banging hot fucking non jew blonds on film. That in my opinion is where these people are taking it way too far. Imagine if the negrows had this power. We would have spike Lee as the leading man in every other movie. Time for Russia to fix this fucking shit. What the fuck is going on In America?

Article was from two years ago, though, and this is actually the first I've heard about it (this thread).

[Thin Lizzy]

Hollywood has totally adapted to new media.  Are you kidding?  They're making gazillions of dollars.

No it hasn't. It's an industry in decline and the decline is just starting to pick up speed.

Great thread, AS.  Hollywood is just the "entertainment" wing of the msm.

They can't do anything without making an idiotic political statement, like the commercial with fat slobs Rogan and Amy Shumer in which they bitch about pay inequality between men and women. Do those two morons want this to be equal, too?

[Griffith]

South Korea is probably the biggest rival to Hollywood, in terms of quality of movies.

[Irongrip400]

No it hasn't. It's an industry in decline and the decline is just starting to pick up speed.




They can't do anything without making an idiotic political statement, like the commercial with fat slobs Rogan and Amy Shumer in which they bitch about pay inequality between men and women. Do those two morons want this to be equal, too?

Lol, I saw that stupid ass commercial the other night. Fucking Bud Light selling out.


As far as Hollywood goes, it was made by Jews in a time when cinema was the lowest form of media. Say what you want, but they sure have a way of turning lemons in to lemonade.

[Thin Lizzy]

Lol, I saw that stupid ass commercial the other night. Fucking Bud Light selling out.


As far as Hollywood goes, it was made by Jews in a time when cinema was the lowest form of media. Say what you want, but they sure have a way of turning lemons in to lemonade.

At the time, it was a new form of entertainment that had mass appeal and provided a relatively inexpensive night out. Now, it's a tired old industry that has to spend more and more to get people interested, and they're failing. Look at the ratings for the last Academy Awards, and the long term network trend. The same is starting to affect cable.

[Grape Ape]

No it hasn't. It's an industry in decline and the decline is just starting to pick up speed.

If I'm reading that correctly, your chart is just box office?  The article below states how Hollywood is offsetting that by embracing new media.

The headlines screamed in early 2012: “Movie attendance falls to 16-year low,” “Hollywood in turmoil as DVD sales drop,” and “John Carter Financial Disaster For Disney.”

What goes largely unreported, however, is that the studio have found other ways to make money. Despite all the hand-wringing in the press over losses, the 6 major studios  made record profits. Consider Disney for example. Despite the “John Carter” fiasco, the studio made record profit in fiscal 2012. How is this possible?

The studios have found new ways of making money.

1. They are licensing to new media. Since 2010, there has been an explosive growth in license fees for studio-owned TV series, both still-on-the-air and older ones. The big studios have tens of thousands of TV episodes, movies, and animated shorts in their libraries. Price is soaring as the competition heats up between Amazon. Hulu, and Netflix.  And they are buying exclusive rights to compete with each other. As a top Warner Bros. executive recently wrote me, “license fees that were chump change two years ago are now mind boggling.” Since studios do not pay for advertising or prints on licensed material, almost all the revenues, except for residuals, goes directly to the bottom line.  As a result, the surging license fees have more than compensated for the decline in DVDs.

2. They are also turning Video-On-Demand into another bonanza. While pay-per-view never before produced substantial profits, the proliferation of cable VOD has suddenly made this profitable. By 2012, studio lawyers were working at a feverish pace making agreements with cable networks to carry their new movies, such as the ones which now can be downloaded via HBO  and Comcast on iPads, phones and other digital devices.  The money that is flowing in from these deals is expected to adds hundreds of millions of dollars to the studios’ bottom lines in the next two years.

3. They are improving foreign yields. The Hollywood studios have found that their 3D comic book and fantasy movies have such enormous appeal in many developing markets, such as Russia, China, South Korea, and Brazil, that they have succeeded in jacking up their share of the box office. In China, for example, which now has 2,500 3D screens, the studios have raised their cut on these blockbusters up from a measly 13 percent to 20 percent. They have also pushed their yields up in many other new markets. Since a single comic book movie, such as Disney and Marvel's "The Avengers" can generate over three-quarters of a billion dollars overseas, the increase in the foreign yield results in a windfall ("The Avengers, for example, took in to date  $84 million in China, $63 million in Brazil, $43 million in Russia, and $51 million in South Korea.) So even though the U.S. box office revenue was down in 2011 by 4 percent, the big studios were actually able to make more money as their share by getting higher yields abroad.

4. Studios have reduced production costs by paying stars only a fraction of their official “quote” or asking fee. In exchange for having them sign a “side letter” in which they agree to the cut, studios allow them to claim they got their full fee in the contract. For example, a big name star may have a quote of $10 million, which is inserted in the contract, but he or she will be paid only $2 million. The $8 million vanished through a side letter which the star simultaneously signed relinquishing part of the sum in the contract. Since side letters are kept secret by studios, the star can pretend to receive far more than he does. Stars accept these drastic cuts because they (and their agents and business managers) would rather make a fraction of their quote than no money at all, as long as the world does not find out. For studios, these side letters substantially decrease the cost of making movies.

5. Hollywood’s biggest under-the-radar profit center is television. The major studios (with the exception of Paramount) produce TV series for network and cable television. And cable has become an exceedingly rich lode. The A&E network alone is now valued at over $20 billion.  As these cable networks largely rely on Hollywood for their filmed entertainment, they have become its cash cow.  A top Time Warner executive recently calculated that over 85% of the company’s profits come from TV.

[Thin Lizzy]

If I'm reading that correctly, your chart is just box office?  The article below states how Hollywood is offsetting that by embracing new media.

It's all spin. Video on demand, Third World demand for the Product, low balling stars, and a rapidly declining television market as your  "cash cow' does not make for a promising future.

[Grape Ape]

It's all spin. Video on demand, Third World demand for the Product, low balling stars, and a rapidly declining television market as your  "cash cow' does not make for a promising future.

Not trying to stir things up but I'm legitimately not following your train of thought. You said Hollywood was declining because they were not embracing new media. I gave you tangible examples of where they actually are not only embracing new media,  but making money off it.   That does not sound like spin, it sounds like embracing the new landscape to remain profitable.

[Thin Lizzy]

Not trying to stir things up but I'm legitimately not following your train of thought. You said Hollywood was declining because they were not embracing new media. I gave you tangible examples of where they actually are not only embracing new media,  but making money off it.   That does not sound like spin, it sounds like embracing the new landscape to remain profitable.

They "embraced" the new media the same way the music industry did. They were dragged kicking and screaming. Has the download market made as much money as the previous hard copy model? Of course not.

When the home experience started getting better, older people stopped going to the theatres. Hollywoods way of embracing this change was to stop making movies for older audiences and focusing on the 25 and under market. Now, even that demographic isn't buying. They could've catered to older crowds by bringing the product to the customer and showing first run movies on  PPV, but they didn't. They hung on to their old model.

I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience in this area, but, when a spokesperson for a company or industry starts talking about foreign markets as their savior, you know there's a problem. Russia, LOL. It means that the home market is either flat or declining. Funny, television used to be viewed by Hollywood as the minor league. Suddenly, it's the cash cow. The younger generation doesn't even watch TV.

At the end of the day, it's about putting eyes in front of the screen and asses in the seats, and Hollywood is doing less and less of it.


http://deadline.com/2016/02/oscars-tv-ratings-2106-viewers-chris-rock-abc-1201711309/

Oscars 2016 TV Ratings Hit 8-Year Low With Chris Rock Return | Deadline

[Papper]

Cool! I wish Russia all the best in this endeavour. Maybe they can make some original movies unlike Hollywood.

[French]

Copy Hollywood and in majority, its horrible films will be easy for Russian.
But sometimes there is pure gems that Russian will be unable to do.