first of all ...without gear they ALL shrivel up and look as if they've barely lifted in their lives ...Jason, DJ, Dex, Kamali, anyone who competed in the 90s and still has size is STILL GEARED UP ...don't be so fucking naive ...just look at Cormier, Levrone (Hollywood era), Ken Wheeler (minus the oil arms), Ronnie and anyone else who goes from 5g/week to their body's natural levels ...they SHRINK ...like a prune ...they're all ALL DRUGS!