Trump going to Mexico

[Marty Champions]

the immagrants will pay for the wall

[timfogarty]

Pretty sure the story I read had them standing side by side telling reporters how a wall would be mutually benificial for both countries.

No one thinks there is actually going to be a physical wall 1000+ miles long.  There is a river for most of the border.  A fence or Berlin type wall that is not guarded every few hundred feet can easily be scaled, and you can't have guards in the middle of no where without building a town to support them.  While a thousand mile building would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

On the other hand, legalizing and regulating marijuana in the US would cripple the Mexican cartels, bringing peace to northern Mexico.

[Coach is Back!]

Does anyone here doubt the mex president told Trump that mexico isn't paying for it?    I'm absolutely sure he said it. 

And it makes trump look very bad if mex prez said this, and trump didn't 'deal' with him. 

LOL....you're "absolutely" sure?

[chaos]

Does anyone here doubt the mex president told Trump that mexico isn't paying for it?    I'm absolutely sure he said it. 

And it makes trump look very bad if mex prez said this, and trump didn't 'deal' with him. 

Weird how when they were side by side the guy wasn't talking shit. Not until Trump left. Lol

No one thinks there is actually going to be a physical wall 1000+ miles long.  There is a river for most of the border.  A fence or Berlin type wall that is not guarded every few hundred feet can easily be scaled, and you can't have guards in the middle of no where without building a town to support them.  While a thousand mile building would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

On the other hand, legalizing and regulating marijuana in the US would cripple the Mexican cartels, bringing peace to northern Mexico.

LMFAO!!! You think weed is the money maker for cartels? Lol
You'll never stop 100% illegal immigration, nobody expects a complete wall and the mexis just dig miles long tunnels anyways.

[240 is Back]

LOL....you're "absolutely" sure?

I want you to absolutely bump this if they leak the video.

Trump just called on Hilary to be deported.  He will let the illegals stay, only the "very violent" ones have to leave.

[240 is Back]

visa overstays will be deported.
any illegals on public welfare will be deported

[Walter Sobchak]

No one thinks there is actually going to be a physical wall 1000+ miles long.  There is a river for most of the border.  A fence or Berlin type wall that is not guarded every few hundred feet can easily be scaled, and you can't have guards in the middle of no where without building a town to support them.  While a thousand mile building would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

On the other hand, legalizing and regulating marijuana in the US would cripple the Mexican cartels, bringing peace to northern Mexico.

So bleeding heart liberal....how man people successfully scaled the Berlin Wall?

Trump went to Mexico to tell the head guy in charge down there who would be making the fucking rules from now on and to tell him to clean up his shithole of a country.

Hillary got caught lying about 25 more Benghazi emails....normal day for that soon to be convict

[The True Adonis]

240, why do you not want a Trump presidency?  Honestly, why not?

[timfogarty]

So bleeding heart liberal....how man people successfully scaled the Berlin Wall?

the Berlin wall had manned machine guns every 100 feet or so.  The border with Mexico is 1989 miles or 10.5 million feet.  That would require 100,000 machine guard towers, 800,000 guards, and infrastructure to support those 800,000 guards.  Much of the border is very isolated, hours from any town

[240 is Back]

240, why do you not want a Trump presidency?  Honestly, why not?

i'm kinda cool either way.  Nothing changes.  Clinton = Obama II, and things are fcking rocking right now.   Trump = a 911 truther who will be an awesomely entertaining daily shitshow as the congress pwns him and he just sinks to 15% in polls.

Trump/clinton, for me, is just debate fodder on getbig to keep me sharp and give me some intellectual challenge during what is an otherwise droning and boring day of work.  I'd be just as adversarial about 9mm vs 40 cal, or Levron vs heath, etc.  

I'm a little shocked that men who have been on the planet for 4 or 5 decades are this emotional and butthurt over it.  It's just a puppet show between two hated liars with similar ideologies.


Now he's screaming "there will be no amnesty", while at the same time saying the illegals can stay, as long as they don't commit serious crimes.  That's amnesty.

[240 is Back]

the Berlin wall had manned machine guns every 100 feet or so.  The border with Mexico is 1989 miles or 10.5 million feet.  That would require 100,000 machine guard towers, 800,000 guards, and infrastructure to support those 800,000 guards.  Much of the border is very isolated, hours from any town

Sounds like President Trump just created ten million new jobs.  Someone has to man these machine guns. 

[The True Adonis]

All I know is if we had Palestine as a Southern neighbor, we better have a wall just like Israel, with computer controlled Machine Guns on top.

[timfogarty]

i'm kinda cool either way.  

Trump does not have the temperament to be 'leader of the free world'.
He does not have the attention span to learn all the details and nuances to make informed decisions on a world scale.
He doesn't understand why that if we have nukes, we can't just use them.
He's a demagogue who is stoking racism for his personal gain.  Last time that happen we had a world war.

[The True Adonis]

Trump does not have the temperament to be 'leader of the free world'.
He does not have the attention span to learn all the details and nuances to make informed decisions on a world scale.
He doesn't understand why that if we have nukes, we can't just use them.
He's a demagogue who is stoking racism for his personal gain.  Last time that happen we had a world war.

Where is the evidence of racism you keep referring to?  You have not provided anything at all yet, but keep repeating it over and over and over again, almost wishing it to be true. 

[Walter Sobchak]

the Berlin wall had manned machine guns every 100 feet or so.  The border with Mexico is 1989 miles or 10.5 million feet.  That would require 100,000 machine guard towers, 800,000 guards, and infrastructure to support those 800,000 guards.  Much of the border is very isolated, hours from any town

You are so full of shit. Typical lib bullshit, talking out your reamed out phaggot ass about shit you don't know fuck all about.

The fucking Berlin Wall was just under 100 miles long and had 302 guard towers.

Fuck off cock-sucker, go pollute some other website with your Hillary dicksucking

[timfogarty]

All I know is if we had Palestine as a Southern neighbor, we better have a wall just like Israel, with computer controlled Machine Guns on top.

the border between Israel and the West Bank is 440 miles, googling, it looks like the border between Israel and Gaza is 37 miles.

[240 is Back]

Trump does not have the temperament to be 'leader of the free world'.
He does not have the attention span to learn all the details and nuances to make informed decisions on a world scale.
He doesn't understand why that if we have nukes, we can't just use them.
He's a demagogue who is stoking racism for his personal gain.  Last time that happen we had a world war.

There facts are exactly correct.

Trump doesn't have the maturity and could start a war over ego.  He's a pompous ass. BUT hilary is sick, weak, a shadow of her former self and her ego won't let her step down so Warren, Gore, Bernie, whoever, could whoop on Trump. 

[timfogarty]

Where is the evidence of racism you keep referring to?  You have not provided anything at all yet, but keep repeating it over and over and over again, almost wishing it to be true.  

First, I claimed he uses demagoguery to appeal to racists.  However,

He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”

The Justice Department sued his company twice for not renting to black people

The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined his company $200,000 in 1992 for removing black card dealers for certain events and gamblers. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,”

He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him

He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

He encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five. In 1989, Trump took out full-page ads in four New York City-area newspapers calling for the return of the death penalty in New York and the expansion of police authority in response to the infamous case of a woman who was beaten and raped while jogging in Manhattan’s Central Park.  The men's convictions were overturned in 2002, when DNA evidence showed they did not commit the crime.

He retweets white supremacists. He repeats anti-semitic memes that use the star of david and then claims "it was a sherifs badge"

I can go on

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Trump told the Mexico pres that he has two options. Option A--- is that he pays to build the complete wall and and keeps his mouth shut. Option B--- is Trump hires Vince Basile to work the border with no wall. Mexico Pres took Option A and shook Trumps hand. Trump told him he made a wise decision. Option D is still in Trumps back pocket if needed at a later date.

[mr.turbo]

surprised the nominee didn't to turn this into another catastrophe

the mexicans look quite pathetic however

[240 is Back]

Since 2010 (and before) on getbig, I've called for dropping off the illegals we catch at the southernmost point of mexico or even south america.

Tonight, Trump embraced that idea!  "We'll drop them off very far away so it takes them a very long time to make their way back"

(c) 240, via getbig 2010 .    Bumped on political board for proof.  I was beating down the lawbreakers back in 2010 while trump was still publicly on that amnesty tip.  Today, he's being purposefully vague on WHICH illegals can stay  

Remember my idea of breaking 1 leg and returning them to the southernmost tip of mexico, and seeing how many can make the journey a second time?  

[Never1AShow]

Now he's screaming "there will be no amnesty", while at the same time saying the illegals can stay, as long as they don't commit serious crimes.  That's amnesty.

Again, not what he said.  If on welfare you are out is one thing he said.

You want Hillary to win because you are a Butthurt Cruz supporter who somehow thinks he will defend the constitution by giving away the Supreme Court and the 2nd Amendment.  And then run against an incumbent in 4 years?  Cruz won't even win his Senate seat again.

[240 is Back]

Again, not what he said.  If on welfare you are out is one thing he said.

You want Hillary to win because you are a Butthurt Cruz supporter who somehow thinks he will defend the constitution by giving away the Supreme Court and the 2nd Amendment.  And then run against an incumbent in 4 years?  Cruz won't even win his Senate seat again.

Stop attacking me - and explain EXACTLY who trump will deport

He purposely made it very very vague, saying visa expired, on welfare, and violent criminals will be deported. 

That's a massive group - but that still means millions of illegals can stay.  You cool with that?

[timfogarty]

There are only two reactions to tonight's speech:

- This was the greatest speech by an American politician ever.

- This is 1936 German all over again.

What demonizing latinos did to the Californian Republican party in the 1990s, Trump is now doing nation wide.

so, here are some cute tweets I found.

This entire speech is a rich, white man telling a bunch of poor white people that poor brown people are the problem.

If Borders were so great, then why’d they go out of business?

[240 is Back]

Trump left UNDEFINED the 11 million illegals who are here - but who aren't committing major crimes.

Can anyone tell us where he said what happens to them?   It's easy for him to yell "no amnesty", but will he just let them keep living in the shadows as they are now?   He said we'll kick out those on welfare, those on expired visas, and those who have done violent crimes - but what about the others?

Deliberately vague.  Not that his base gives a motherfck.  They don't care.  They didn't care when he softened.  They just care about being part of something.