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Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« on: September 27, 2016, 07:22:10 AM »
Lester Holt: The Third Debater?


At tonight’s debate, Donald Trump faced off not just against Hillary Clinton, but against moderator Lester Holt.

The game of two-on-one saw Holt ask no questions about:

Hillary’s emails
Benghazi
The Clinton Foundation
While ignoring these issues, Holt grilled Trump on stop-and-frisk, the birther story, his comments about women, his many bankruptcies, why he hasn’t released his tax returns — and a host of other issues the media sees as unfriendly to the Republican candidate.

Holt also repeatedly attempted to “fact check” on some of Trump’s positions, such as his claim to have opposed the Iraq War from the beginning. Holt interrupted Trump several times to interject, but rarely succeeded (and may have come across as weak and impotent).

The Twittersphere has taken note:
http://heatst.com/politics/lester-holt-the-third-debater/

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2016, 07:23:40 AM »
Eric Bolling @ericbolling

Lester Holt train of thought right now:
Tax returns- ck
Birth Cert- ck

Emails? Health? Benghazi?
(Oops we ran out of time)

Sep 26, 2016, 9:13 PM

https://twitter.com/ericbolling?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2016, 07:47:21 AM »
Holt was biased.  But the open format of the debate gave trump plenty of chances to say anything he wanted.

There was one point where hilary said she represented the MAJORITY of americans (she didn't say ALL).  That was the PERFECT spot for Trump to interject "Everyone but us deplorables, right Hilary?"  and the crowd would have absolutely erupted.  

Neither of them wanted to talk about foundations.  They're both crooked as shit in that aspect.  

Trump started well, but took the bait and made it personal.  Hillary was her usual robotic cold psycho.  Trump showed he was a man that can be rattled within a half hour, and someone that you can send off-task, off-message, and really have him speaking too fast and SHOWING he was irritated.   He's not the master dealmaker that he claims.  Master dealmakers are cool as shit during negotiations and debate.  They don't sweat, they don't get pissed off, they don't interrupt 40 times.  They just the other person dig a hole with all their claims - then you dismantle them line by line.  

Trump had a huge chance last night to beat her ass mercilessly.  Instead, he showed he can be rattled, and more time to speak hurts him.

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2016, 08:19:54 AM »
Brent Bozell ‏@BrentBozell  12h12 hours ago
Lester Holt clearly heard cries of his colleagues in the liberal media to be tough on Trump & ease up on Hillary loud and clear. #debate
https://twitter.com/BrentBozell

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2016, 08:39:39 AM »
Lester Holt was fine....Trump just didn't do any preparations obviously.  He thought he could run over Hillary but she's a fucking beast
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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2016, 08:41:31 AM »
It was just bizarre, as though Holt was debating Trump with Hillary occasionally chiming in with a dig.

The birther question was the dead giveaway. With all the topics that could've been chosen, they go with some bullshit no one cares about.

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2016, 08:43:24 AM »
Lester Holt was fine....Trump just didn't do any preparations obviously.  He thought he could run over Hillary but she's a fucking beast

He won the debate Vince

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2016, 08:58:34 AM »
Rudy Giuliani bitch slapping Lester Holt Crowley.



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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2016, 09:08:34 AM »
He won the debate Vince

Lol!

Trump showed his thin skin last night.  He's on Fox News defending the miss piggy thing today.

I love his tax plan.  But he's a weak man.  Get flustered in debate, whine about mic, then go on fox to justify calling her fat.  He's just a weak man. Reagan would eat trumps lunch. 

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2016, 09:11:46 AM »
Yeah, it's a shame we don't have RubioBot 2.0 on the stage instead of Trump  ::)
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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2016, 09:16:06 AM »
Rubio would have been great last night.  He shined on bigger stages.  Shrunk on little ones. 

Trump rocks in the mud fest brawls but looks like shit in the elegant high end 2 man debates

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2016, 09:34:54 AM »
Lester Holt was fine....Trump just didn't do any preparations obviously.  He thought he could run over Hillary but she's a fucking beast
Yeah...no.
Both sides sucked last night, Trump came out looking stronger because of his ability to control the moderator.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2016, 09:42:27 AM »
Yeah...no.
Both sides sucked last night, Trump came out looking stronger because of his ability to control the moderator.

Trump was unable to point out Benghazi, deplorables, Clinton foundation, super predators, and a host of other issues. 

If it's a "win" to explain yourself impartial sentences for 90 minutes, let's give it to him.  But he had 100 million people listening and he didn't bring up very many Clinton flaws at all, despite many opportunities.  I don't call that a win.  I call it an example of his poor situational awareness and lack of higher level thinking skills like synthesis and evaluation.


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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2016, 10:31:37 AM »
Lester Holt spins debate for Hillary six huge ways, plays 'Gotcha' with Trump

By Dan Gainor  Published September 27, 2016  FoxNews.com

Journalists got their wish. Presidential debate moderator Lester Holt hoisted Hillary Clinton’s campaign high in the air like Atlas. Holt repeatedly called out Trump, as both the Clinton campaign and the liberal media had begged him to do.

Holt reminded viewers he’s liberal – from pushing the birther issue to harassing Trump about his tax returns to a wildly biased question about Clinton as “the first woman nominated by a party” not having “the look.” Clinton skated by with a 15-second response on her emails while Trump was asked repeated follow-up questions while Hillary was not. There was no “deplorables” question and Holt promoted the birther meme without noting its origin in the Clinton camp.

Clinton discussed fact-checking three times, even imploring her media friends: “Well, I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard.” Holt sure was. He dragged the debate to the left in six major ways:

1. Jobs: Holt pressed Trump with two questions on how he was going to add jobs even though the first answer discussed renegotiating trade deals.

2. Taxes: He portrayed the tax plans from the left – Clinton wanting to tax the rich and Trump “calling for tax cuts for the wealthy,” forcing Trump to correct him.

3. Tax Returns: Trump got hit hard with tax return questions for “business conflicts” while Hillary got a slide on emails, her hidden speeches and Clinton Foundation business conflicts.

4. Birthers: Holt asked a “birther” question that lasted longer than Clinton’s email answer. He then added three separate follow-ups to jam up Trump.

5. Iraq: He hammered Trump for supporting the Iraq War, downplaying how Hillary had voted to do the same.

6. Hillary’s Gaffe: When asked about biased policing, Clinton said, “I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police.” Holt ignored it, rather than challenge the idea everyone is bigoted.

The New York Times said Holt “Opted for Restraint,” and called him a “minimalist moderator.” The paper liked some of Holt’s approach, given the “news media tempest over how aggressively a moderator should fact check candidates.” Still, the Times called it “a split decision” for Holt.

USA Today summed it up with the magic words: “Holt fact-checked Trump.” Right-leaning HeatStreet called Holt the “third debater.” Media Research Center President L. Brent Bozell III (Hint: My boss), said, “Holt failed in his role as a moderator. Period.”

The news media have been shouting “fact check” in desperate cries for relevance. More than a dozen outlets fact-checked the debate as a result. CNN "Reliable Sources" host Brian Stelter, also formerly of the Times, focused on the fact-check strategy to target Trump during his Sunday show. “Does a unique candidate like Donald Trump require a different kind of moderating?” he asked a guest before being told, “No, no absolutely not,” by long-time debate moderator Jim Lehrer.

Bloomberg TV, owned by left-wing media baron Michael Bloomberg, ran on-screen fact checks for its tiny audience. The Times “assembled a team of 18 fact-checkers,” generating a 2,400-word fact-check. The paper even had a correspondent “watching for gender moments.”

The paper pushed hard for fact-checking while it pushed hard for Clinton. Its official endorsement dropped one day before the debate – as certain as death and taxes. It’s opinion page Twitter account oozed pro-Hillary headlines during the debate, such as: “What a fantastic moment, to see Donald Trump self-destruct.”

Left-wing Fusion was worse, calling out Trump for “MANTERRUPTING HILLARY CLINTON.” And The New Yorker complained Holt didn’t attack Trump enough: “CNN LAUNCHES MANHUNT AFTER LESTER HOLT VANISHES FROM DEBATE.”

Journalists have demanded their industry give up neutrality throughout the campaign. It’s a laughable conceit for anyone who recalls Candy Crowley’s 2012 bias or the 2016 CNBC GOP primary debate. Univision anchor Jorge Ramos turned from journalist to crusader with barely any professional criticism. Reporters might as well wear blue jerseys with “I’m With Her” on the back.

Back in August, Times media columnist Jim Rutenberg argued the paper had to sacrifice its alleged neutrality. If you think “Donald J. Trump is a demagogue playing to the nation’s worst racist and nationalistic tendencies,” then “you have to throw out the textbook American journalism,” he wrote.

By Monday, that had escalated into an industry-wide demand for debate moderators to attack Trump misstatements. As Rutenberg explained, that would “require the debate moderators to interject with the truth.”

Journalists have skewered anyone soft on Trump. NBC' the "Today" show’s Matt Lauer faced a “Storm of Criticism Over Clinton-Trump Forum” because he didn’t play the fact-check game. Even "Tonight Show" host Jimmy Fallon was bashed for mussing Trump’s hair instead of smacking him upside the head.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/27/lester-holt-spins-debate-for-hillary-6-huge-ways-plays-gotcha-with-trump.html

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Re: Debate moderator Lester Holt gets reamed in the news this morning
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2016, 07:24:58 PM »
Trump interrupted Clinton 25 times in the first 26 minutes of the debate