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Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« on: October 01, 2016, 07:47:59 PM »
This actually helps his case, IMO.   He's following the law.  He claimed a big enough loss that he didn't have to pay for 18 years.  It's not what people want to hear - but he did lose a billion bucks.  Trump is an immature ass, but I'm with him on this one.  He should just own it - I lost a billion bucks, and the law says I don't have to pay for 18 years because of it.  Don't bullshit us with "oh, I"m under audit so you can't see the last 16 years of taxes..."
Trump is actually right here.



Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show.

The 1995 tax records, never before disclosed, reveal the extraordinary tax benefits that Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, derived from the financial wreckage he left behind in the early 1990s through mismanagement of three Atlantic City casinos, his ill-fated foray into the airline business and his ill-timed purchase of the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan.

Tax experts hired by The Times to analyze Mr. Trump’s 1995 records said tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 07:59:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/hashtag/LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes?src=tren

#lasttimetrumppaidtaxes is trending #1 in the world on twitter right now

LOL @
#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes A Clinton was in the Whitehouse
#NextTimeTrumpPaysTaxes A Clinton will be in the Whitehouse

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2016, 08:11:29 PM »
Trump is upset that the document was illegally obtained.

The man who ASKED RUSSIA TO LEAK HILARY'S ILLEGALLY OBTAINED documents now has a problem with that. 

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2016, 09:19:49 PM »
$916 million was a lot of money in the mid-90s.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 09:24:50 PM »
$916 million was a lot of money in the mid-90s.

yep.   All he had to say was "i got 20 years of 50 million exempt... took a big hit and learned a lot, rebuilt, a true american success story.

But his ego couldn't accept that - so he hides them. 

This does make it interesting... Trump was legit bitching about the document leaking... but he's been asking Russia to leak stolen documents, and he's cited/quoted the leaked emails over and over.  Repubs didn't care about hilary emails leaking - will they be outraged that someone in trump towers seems to have leaked this tax return?


And really, it helps him, if he just admits it and moves on.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2016, 11:31:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/hashtag/LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes?src=tren

#lasttimetrumppaidtaxes is trending #1 in the world on twitter right now

LOL @
#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes A Clinton was in the Whitehouse
#NextTimeTrumpPaysTaxes A Clinton will be in the Whitehouse

theres some good ones.

30 more minutes till 3 am :popcorn:

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2016, 11:54:01 PM »
theres some good ones.

30 more minutes till 3 am :popcorn:

Did you see SNL tonight?   Pretty good intro debate sketch.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2016, 02:28:50 AM »
I did!! Baldwin did a great job!

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2016, 02:30:22 AM »
What is wrong here exactly?

No laws were broken.  So what, its a loss.  Warren Buffet lost 2 billion dollars in two days.  Do you think he follows a different tax law?  And the law itself makes sense. Imagine a business makes $1 million in year 1, then suffers a $1 million loss in year 2, then makes $1 million in year 3. If it weren't for this law, they'd have to pay taxes on $2 million in income, even though it ultimately had an income of $1 million.

If he made $1 billion and lost $1 billion, then he didn't make any money, and it makes sense that he wouldn't pay taxes on it. Once (if he ever did/does) make more than that or the time runs out, then he'd start paying taxes again. He already paid the taxes when he made the money, and he doesn't have to pay it while he earns it back.

There are plenty of good questions about how someone can make a bunch of money but be shielded from losses via bankruptcy (Though there are some legitimately good reasons for businesses being allowed to go bankrupt without it making the owners bankrupt. Some of that risk is shared by creditors.) but I don't think the issue of him being able to write off his business losses is a huge deal.

Again, what is the issue here exactly?  

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2016, 07:38:44 AM »
Again, what is the issue here exactly? 

It's not ideal for trump to say "I'm so rich, I'm so successful.... BUT i haven't paid taxes in 20 years"

Totally legal, but not likable and will not earn him that much goodwill from his base which has a HUGE dislike of the IRS. 

He's the anti-establishment one who is fighting the man, and it's not ideal for him to be saying "“I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more,” Trump told ABC’s This Week." when he isn't actually paying taxes.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/21/trump-oh-you-bet-i-support-raising-taxes-on-the-rich-n2152154

Like I said, I support trump here.  He's following existing law.  But if he has paid zero taxes in 18 years while saying this:
“I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more,” Trump told ABC’s This Week.

It just looks dick-ish.  You're willing to pay more than zero, Mr Trump?    Still, he's legal, I have nothing to hate on him for.  I think the perception isn't ideal politically though.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2016, 08:26:32 AM »
Lolz..240 desperately grasping at straws with thread after thread on supposed Trump dirt but can't make anything stick....


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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
Lolz..240 desperately grasping at straws with thread after thread on supposed Trump dirt but can't make anything stick....


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I think Trump actually looks good here on this issue.  incurring a 900 million dollar loss, then recovering to be worth 3 billion (or 10 bill lol) is an awesome achievement.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2016, 09:37:24 AM »
It's not ideal for trump to say "I'm so rich, I'm so successful.... BUT i haven't paid taxes in 20 years"

Totally legal, but not likable and will not earn him that much goodwill from his base which has a HUGE dislike of the IRS.  

He's the anti-establishment one who is fighting the man, and it's not ideal for him to be saying "“I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more,” Trump told ABC’s This Week." when he isn't actually paying taxes.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/21/trump-oh-you-bet-i-support-raising-taxes-on-the-rich-n2152154

Like I said, I support trump here.  He's following existing law.  But if he has paid zero taxes in 18 years while saying this:
“I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more,” Trump told ABC’s This Week.

It just looks dick-ish.  You're willing to pay more than zero, Mr Trump?    Still, he's legal, I have nothing to hate on him for.  I think the perception isn't ideal politically though.

I agree with you. nothing wrong working in the system

the hypocrisy is him pulling a Ron Paul and using the system he says he is trying to destroy to his own advantage.

Trump huggers dont see it.

wait for some tard to say Trump doesn't want to get rid of the IRS.
Trump wants to come across as an outsider, while what got him here was being an insider and using all the loop holes to head fuck you like he has this campaign

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2016, 09:43:50 AM »
I agree with you. nothing wrong working in the system
the hypocrisy is him pulling a Ron Paul and using the system he says he is trying to destroy to his own advantage.
Trump huggers dont see it.

wait for some tard to say Trump doesn't want to get rid of the IRS.
Trump wants to come across as an outsider while what got him to here is being an insider and using all the loop holes to ear fuck you like he has this campaign

yeah, him saying "I don't mind paying more in taxes" this year when he's paid zero for 20 years.... lol... I'm sure there are many quotes like it.

But unlike cuba or the host of other shitpiles trump's been wading around in for decades, he actually look completely legal here.  Braggin "that makes me smart" at the debate may have been the dumbest things he's said.

That meltdown he had last night... imitating hilary's 911 fainting, shitting on bernie supporters... he has done nothing but energize the left and disgust his base this week.  He's trying to lose.  He needed to suck at the debate, and he did it.  He needed to keep the miss piggy story alive, and he did it.  He needed to stop the bernie voters from liking him, so he shits all over bernie supporters the day before bernie does the sunday morning talk shows.

Look... If trump isn't tanking this election on purpose, then 2 things are taking place.   1)he's the most immature, inept MFer in the history of politics, AND hilary is the luckiest criminal unlikeable sumbitch in the history of politics.  occams razor and whatnot.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2016, 10:10:24 AM »



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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2016, 05:03:16 AM »
Did trump break any laws?

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2016, 07:53:42 AM »
Did trump break any laws?

Doesn't look like it.  

Romney was right when he said there was a bombshell in Trump's tax returns.  mitt probably knew all along.

During the debates, trump said he knew a lot of people that made a lot of money, and paid little to no taxes, and that has to change.

They're listing all the tweets and statements he's made over the past year - shitting all over rich folks for not paying their fair share, how they find ways to avoid paying taxes.  Legal, yes.  But some may see it as hypocritical.

If anything, IMO, this helps him... he's imitating hilary's sickness walk, he's tweeting 3 am porn recommendations.  Trump is losing it.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2016, 08:52:07 AM »
Doesn't look like it.  

Romney was right when he said there was a bombshell in Trump's tax returns.  mitt probably knew all along.

During the debates, trump said he knew a lot of people that made a lot of money, and paid little to no taxes, and that has to change.

They're listing all the tweets and statements he's made over the past year - shitting all over rich folks for not paying their fair share, how they find ways to avoid paying taxes.  Legal, yes.  But some may see it as hypocritical.

If anything, IMO, this helps him... he's imitating hilary's sickness walk, he's tweeting 3 am porn recommendations.  Trump is losing it.

Trump does not want to be POTUS.   Plain and simple.  He loves the media spotlight and the attention - thats it

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2016, 09:24:38 AM »
Trump does not want to be POTUS.   Plain and simple.  He loves the media spotlight and the attention - thats it

THIS x 1000.

Hearing him chat with these military retirees about his military plans today was unreal.

"See, if I want to attack from this eastern quadrant...."

He's playing battleship.  "I know more than the generals..."  Unreal.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2016, 09:51:35 AM »
I'm confused.

If Trump is trying to throw the election, then why is he forcing his opponent and the MSM to embrace tax reform on businesses and the wealthy? Wouldn't he want those loopholes intact for when he loses?  ???
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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2016, 10:07:54 AM »
I'm confused.

If Trump is trying to throw the election, then why is he forcing his opponent and the MSM to embrace tax reform on businesses and the wealthy? Wouldn't he want those loopholes intact for when he loses?  ???

his own tax plan kept them intact.

today he refuses to answer if he's paying a penny of income taxes this year.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2016, 07:59:23 PM »
Career politicians created the shitty mess that is our crooked tax system.

Trump, a business man exploits it.

The solution(apparently) is to condemn Trump and reward the career politician (Hillary) with the Presidency.

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2016, 08:03:15 PM »
Doesn't look like it.  

Romney was right when he said there was a bombshell in Trump's tax returns.  mitt probably knew all along.

During the debates, trump said he knew a lot of people that made a lot of money, and paid little to no taxes, and that has to change.

They're listing all the tweets and statements he's made over the past year - shitting all over rich folks for not paying their fair share, how they find ways to avoid paying taxes.  Legal, yes.  But some may see it as hypocritical.

If anything, IMO, this helps him... he's imitating hilary's sickness walk, he's tweeting 3 am porn recommendations.  Trump is losing it.

So he didn't break any laws yet you spin this into something that not. Liberal logic

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Re: Trump was exempt from paying taxes for 18 years
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2016, 08:04:28 PM »
So he didn't break any laws yet you spin this into something that not. Liberal logic

i started this thread saying he broke no laws.  You are correct there.