Obama Presidential Pardons - Discussions

[Dos Equis]

Remember when Ford pardoned Nixon before Nixon was convicted of a crime?  I suspect Obama will do the same with Hillary, especially if she wins in November. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#United_States

[Skeletor]

I think the pardon might not be limited to Hillary but also to some select members of her inner circle (maybe Abedin, Mills etc) or the Democrats.
On a sidenote, accepting a pardon also means admission of guilt. Not that it will mean something to Clinton, it will be the same as her saying "I take responsibility" (but I don't want any consequences or punishment).

[Dos Equis]

I think the pardon might not be limited to Hillary but also to some select members of her inner circle (maybe Abedin, Mills etc) or the Democrats.
On a sidenote, accepting a pardon also means admission of guilt. Not that it will mean something to Clinton, it will be the same as her saying "I take responsibility" (but I don't want any consequences or punishment).

Agree.

[Dos Equis]

Prof. Banzhaf: Nothing Prevents Hillary Clinton from Pardoning Herself After Inauguration
by DAN RIEHL
4 Nov 2016
Washington, DC

Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University Law School John Banzhaf talked with Breitbart News Daily SiriusXM host Alex Marlow on Friday about complications that would emerge if Hillary Clinton pardoned herself after inauguration if she were elected president.
While pointing out that normal notions of a conflict of interest do not apply to presidential pardons, Banzhaf said, “Some could argue that she can’t pardon herself. We don’t know the answer and perhaps more disturbingly, it may be impossible for that case ever to get into court.”

Added Banzhaf, “Nobody may have what we call legal standing. There are other doctrines that courts could invoke. You don’t have kind of a neutral or third party or third branch referee to decide. She says, ‘I pardon myself, and that’s it, and it’s over.’ Presumably, the other party would say, ‘No, it’s not,’ and then what happens from there?”

Banzhaf also pointed out that even if she does not pardon herself, there is “strong precedent that a sitting president cannot be indicted and charged.”

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/prof-banzhaf-nothing-prevents-hillary-pardoning-inauguration/

[timfogarty]

She has not committed any crimes in need of pardoning.

[Dos Equis]

She has not committed any crimes in need of pardoning.

Spoken like a true believer. 

[Howard]

Remember when Ford pardoned Nixon before Nixon was convicted of a crime?  I suspect Obama will do the same with Hillary, especially if she wins in November. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#United_States

Perhaps we can all form a prayer circle about it?

[Yamcha]

She has not committed any crimes in need of pardoning.

BREAKING @HillaryClinton sent classified information to Chelsea Clinton. More information coming soon!



Just released today by Judicial Watch, Timothy.

Another felony.

[Yamcha]

BREAKING @HillaryClinton sent classified information to Chelsea Clinton. More information coming soon!



Just released today by Judicial Watch, Timothy.

Another felony.

http://imgur.com/uHwsyit

There's the felony, Timothy. Look at the classified marking at the bottom.

You can't send that shit to your daughter.

Please tell how that is not an example of Hillary breaking a law?

[Howard]

http://imgur.com/uHwsyit

There's the felony, Timothy. Look at the classified marking at the bottom.

You can't send that shit to your daughter.

Please tell how that is not an example of Hillary breaking a law?

It's a crime if they don't Instagram some mother /daughter nudes.
Damn dude, thinking of BOTH Hillary and Chelsea at the same time makes any man rock hard.

[The True Adonis]

She has not committed any crimes in need of pardoning.

God you are pathetic.

[Howard]

God you are pathetic.

Would that be more pathetic then a diploma from Trump University?

[gmflex]

 
Watch it that is Adonis school..
That is where he got his degree...

[Dos Equis]

I still think it's possible this happens. 

[loco]

Hillary must beg the FBI to hurry up and charge her with every single one of her crimes now so that Obama can pardon her before Trump takes office in January.

Otherwise, she will get charged with any or all of her crimes after Trump takes office and there will be no hope for a pardon then.

[Howard]

Remember when Ford pardoned Nixon before Nixon was convicted of a crime?  I suspect Obama will do the same with Hillary, especially if she wins in November. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#United_States

The FBI director who was in charge of the investigation already decided no crime was committed .
He notified congress in writing last weekend.
Thus, no official pardon is required .

[Dos Equis]

The FBI director who was in charge of the investigation already decided no crime was committed .
He notified congress in writing last weekend.
Thus, no official pardon is required .

A special prosecutor can still be appointed.  Plus the Clinton Foundation is still being investigated. 

[The True Adonis]

The FBI director who was in charge of the investigation already decided no crime was committed .
He notified congress in writing last weekend.
Thus, no official pardon is required .

Thats not what the letter said.

Besides, she is under a MAJOR criminal investigation by the FBI and IRS regarding the Clinton Foundation.  The email server thing is not going away either as they continue to gather evidence.

She is done and will probably get a pardon at some point.

[loco]

The FBI director who was in charge of the investigation already decided no crime was committed .
He notified congress in writing last weekend.
Thus, no official pardon is required .

That's not what he said.  He said he was still not recommending to press charges against Hillary regarding the emails and personal email server.

This investigation is not closed.  It will remain open until either more evidence surfaces and she is charged, or the statute of limitations expires.

On the other hand, she can still be charged, along with her husband and daughter, for all her crimes regarding the criminal organization that is the Clinton Foundation.

[Dos Equis]

Is there an echo in here?   

[loco]

LOL...getbig's been on fire since last night.   

[Dos Equis]

Yep. 

[Dos Equis]

First signal that the pardon is coming.

Report: Obama Has Not Ruled Out Pardoning Hillary
By Todd Beamon   |   Wednesday, 09 Nov 2016

President Barack Obama has not ruled out pardoning Hillary Clinton before he leaves office in early January despite her not being charged with a crime.

"The president has offered clemency to a substantial number of Americans who were previously serving time in federal prisons," White House press secretary Josh Earnest responded Wednesday when asked by reporters.

His comments were reported by The New York Post.

"And we didn’t talk in advance about the president's plans to offer clemency to any of those individuals — and that’s because we don’t talk about the president’s thinking, particularly with respect to any specific cases that may apply to pardons or commutations," Earnest said.


Clinton, who lost Tuesday's election to Donald Trump, has come under attack for using a private email account when she was secretary of state.

In addition, the Clinton Foundation is reportedly under investigation.

Clinton has not been charged with any crimes.

Trump said during his second debate with Clinton last month that he would appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the 33,000 emails she deleted from her private server.

Kellyanne Conway, Trump's campaign manager, suggested Wednesday that the issue had not been abandoned, the Post reports.

In 1974, President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard Nixon, for any crimes he might have committed while serving in the Oval Office as a result of the Watergate scandal.

Ford said he took the action to avoid polarizing the nation further by putting Nixon on trial.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obama-may-pardon-hillary-clinton/2016/11/09/id/758100/

[Skeletor]

First signal that the pardon is coming.

Report: Obama Has Not Ruled Out Pardoning Hillary
By Todd Beamon   |   Wednesday, 09 Nov 2016

President Barack Obama has not ruled out pardoning Hillary Clinton before he leaves office in early January despite her not being charged with a crime.

"The president has offered clemency to a substantial number of Americans who were previously serving time in federal prisons," White House press secretary Josh Earnest responded Wednesday when asked by reporters.

His comments were reported by The New York Post.

"And we didn’t talk in advance about the president's plans to offer clemency to any of those individuals — and that’s because we don’t talk about the president’s thinking, particularly with respect to any specific cases that may apply to pardons or commutations," Earnest said.


Clinton, who lost Tuesday's election to Donald Trump, has come under attack for using a private email account when she was secretary of state.

In addition, the Clinton Foundation is reportedly under investigation.

Clinton has not been charged with any crimes.

Trump said during his second debate with Clinton last month that he would appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the 33,000 emails she deleted from her private server.

Kellyanne Conway, Trump's campaign manager, suggested Wednesday that the issue had not been abandoned, the Post reports.

In 1974, President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard Nixon, for any crimes he might have committed while serving in the Oval Office as a result of the Watergate scandal.

Ford said he took the action to avoid polarizing the nation further by putting Nixon on trial.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obama-may-pardon-hillary-clinton/2016/11/09/id/758100/

Let's see if Trump acts like Ford or if he'll actually follow up on this:

[Howard]

That's not what he said.  He said he was still not recommending to press charges against Hillary regarding the emails and personal email server.

This investigation is not closed.  It will remain open until either more evidence surfaces and she is charged, or the statute of limitations expires.

On the other hand, she can still be charged, along with her husband and daughter, for all her crimes regarding the criminal organization that is the Clinton Foundation.

Yup, that sums up the entire situation quite well.

I doubt a President Trump would pursue this with his ATT Gen.
The country wants to see some  other stuff done during his 1st 100 days.
A Hillary corruption trial would use a lot of political  capitol and bog down his agenda.

He defeated her , let's move on.