Do stimulants improve your life?

[Bindare_Dundat]

Can someone please explain how coke can be a wonder drug if used "properly"?

[Thespritz0]

Ask Mike Mentzer how they improved his life.

^^
It wasn't just that that killed him... I've shared this before a few times here, when I was on a two-week vacation while in the Army I chose to come to Los Angeles in 1991 (around there, it was before the Bosnia deployment!!)
and I had read in Ironman magazine he was working out of Gold's doing personal training.  I didn't have long to wait, I saw him pull up in a while sports car (I think a Nissan) and I stood up to say hello.
He was a VERY friendly person, we talked for over a half hour (completely lost track of time)-  but then enough time had passed that he asked me if I wanted to have a SMOKE with him at the side of the building!!!
I just nervously told him I don't smoke, and he also told me after the day was done he liked to have Jack Daniels too... (no mention of Healthy eating, exotic miracle vitamins, vacations to pristine beaches, etc...)
P.S.  This was my "day of come-uppance" or the day the "Veil of Secrecy" was lifted for me, as I TRULY thought the whole game was about Intensity intervals, HEALTH building foods and scientific eating, Gear (administered wisely), and the pursuit of Health-building activities/adventures.  

[Nether Animal]

Mentzer overdosed on opiate (oxycontin). Jerrry Brainum has commented on this.

[FREAKgeek]

Caffeine is OK if you stay under your threshold, esp natural sources like coffee. It's not for everyone but you can be a regular drinker and have no health consequences. Studies show that coffee has many health benefits.

[FREAKgeek]

Mentzer overdosed on opiate (oxycontin). Jerrry Brainum has commented on this.

His brother died 2 days later, that makes more sense than both of them having fatal kidney problems at the same time.

[Nether Animal]

Yup. I think in Mike's case it was an accident, but Ray almost certainly suicide.

[ratherbebig]

Can someone please explain how coke can be a wonder drug if used "properly"?

properly means taking cocaine in the bathroom in a club for a quick boost of happiness and self confidence

[Van_Bilderass]

^^
It wasn't just that that killed him... I've shared this before a few times here, when I was on a two-week vacation while in the Army I chose to come to Los Angeles in 1991 (around there, it was before the Bosnia deployment!!)
and I had read in Ironman magazine he was working out of Gold's doing personal training.  I didn't have long to wait, I saw him pull up in a while sports car (I think a Nissan) and I stood up to say hello.
He was a VERY friendly person, we talked for over a half hour (completely lost track of time)-  but then enough time had passed that he asked me if I wanted to have a SMOKE with him at the side of the building!!!
I just nervously told him I don't smoke, and he also told me after the day was done he liked to have Jack Daniels too... (no mention of Healthy eating, exotic miracle vitamins, vacations to pristine beaches, etc...)
P.S.  This was my "day of come-uppance" or the day the "Veil of Secrecy" was lifted for me, as I TRULY thought the whole game was about Intensity intervals, HEALTH building foods and scientific eating, Gear (administered wisely), and the pursuit of Health-building activities/adventures.  

I bet Mike smoked because Ayn Rand portrayed smoking so romantically in her novels. Mike himself said he took amphetamines because Ayn Rand was an amphetamine user and it apparently didn't harm her.

“I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind--and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression.”

[Tapeworm]

Coffee is ok but Red Bull makes me ragey.

[Taffin]

No, but opiates do

 

[falco]

If i don't take a expresso cafe after lunch i fall asleep at the office.

[FermiDirac]

I do math for a living, but I couldn't even manage grade school math without my caffeine. I probably down around 1 litre of café au lait and some energy drinks a day. To say caffeine improve my life is an understatement, but I try to keep free from it during weekends and days off.

[heenok]

I use caffeine daily. Coffee, tea, pre workouts...
I honestly cant tell the last time i have trainned without at least a coffee in my system. Most of the pwo i use have additional stims with the caffeine too.
I can use steroids, tren etc and never really get irritable but too much stims and im a wreck.
I rely a lot on them when dieting too, but never go above 400mg of total daily caffeine. Which is already excessive imo.
Also use clen which makes me very snappy, more so than any steroids.

[DroppingPlates]

Most stimulants raise cortisol levels, not a good thing

[CalvinH]

Nope

[Mr Anabolic]

I do math for a living, but I couldn't even manage grade school math without my caffeine. I probably down around 1 litre of café au lait and some energy drinks a day. To say caffeine improve my life is an understatement, but I try to keep free from it during weekends and days off.

I've taken small doses of both C and E before job interviews and before I give presentations.  Much better with it than without it... brain activity is quicker and more concise in my speech and answering questions.

[ratherbebig]

I've taken small doses of both C and E before job interviews and before I give presentations.  Much better with it than without it... brain activity is quicker and more concise in my speech and answering questions.

with e do you mean ephedrine or ecstacy 

[Yamcha]

I've taken small doses of both C and E before job interviews and before I give presentations.  Much better with it than without it... brain activity is quicker and more concise in my speech and answering questions.

sorta like Hitler

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hitler%27s+drugs+before+speeches

[Mr Anabolic]

with e do you mean ephedrine or ecstacy 

ephedrine

[Mr Anabolic]

sorta like Hitler

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hitler%27s+drugs+before+speeches

The amount I take is miniscule compared to what they shot him up with.  I believe it helped me tremendously on the last 3 job interviews I had... got hired every time.  The secret is self-control.  Easy to abuse and get addicted (like so many on here seem to be).  I had workout partners who could not train without it... they have many health problems now, mainly due to ephedrine abuse.

[FermiDirac]

I've taken small doses of both C and E before job interviews and before I give presentations.  Much better with it than without it... brain activity is quicker and more concise in my speech and answering questions.

With ephedrine?  I'd climb walls and rocket through the roof if I took it. Do you work within the science/engineering field?

[Yamcha]

The amount I take is miniscule compared to what they shot him up with.  I believe it helped me tremendously on the last 3 job interviews I had... got hired every time.  The secret is self-control.  Easy to abuse and get addicted (like so many on here seem to be).  I had workout partners who could not train without it... they have many health problems now, mainly due to ephedrine abuse.

I was just messin' with ya 

Whatever gets the job done! Glad to see someone on this board has a job!

[JCL]

How much caffeine does everyone take?

Im taking 400-600mg a day, is this safe??

[FermiDirac]

How much caffeine does everyone take?

Im taking 400-600mg a day, is this safe??

At my worst I was averaging 1000-1500mg a day, probably 2000mg some days which was reaching toxic levels.

[JCL]

At my worst I was averaging 1000-1500mg a day, probably 2000mg some days which was reaching toxic levels.

Holy shit, I couldn't imagine that.

I'm sure some days I go over, I have a few coffees a day, couple of diet pepsi's then 2 scoops of pre workout sometimes...but 2000! jesus man. be careful.