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Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« on: November 01, 2016, 09:29:08 AM »
It's my impression that most election talk/posts are some emotionally charged attack .
BOTH sides resort to an endless loop of insulting attacks on the other side.

It reminds me of 2 kids yelling at each other at the top of their lungs.
Neither one is listening and it's impossible to hear the other side.

I've LISTENED and read the pros and cons of Trump and Hillary.
BOTH of them have  strong and weak points.
In my opinion, it's up to the voter to weigh the +/- and make a judgment.
Based on that judgment, you vote for that candidate.

Contrary to some opinions, Trump isn't Hitler 2.0 and Hillary isn't an alien-lizard hybrid .  ;)

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 09:31:13 AM »
Howard this is who you voted for:


This is the list as compiled on Breitbart. I would add treason, murder, money laundering, drug smuggling, and arms dealing. Anyone else have any to add?




Top 7 Charges Hillary Clinton Could Face While President


1. Perjury: Why not start with a blast from the Clinton past? Hillary Clinton signed documents testifying that she turned over all work-related emails to the State Department, on orders from a federal judge, under penalty of perjury. We already have indisputable proof she violated this sworn statement… thousands of times.



2. Obstruction of Justice: Bill Clinton’s primary motive for committing perjury was to obstruct justice—it was the second count in his impeachment. (The justice he was obstructing was a sexual harassment suit from Paula Jones, at a time when liberals insisted sexual harassment was the most overlooked, under-prosecuted crime in the legal code.)



3. Bribery: After the FBI set off a headline earthquake by re-opening the Clinton email investigation, we learned that several other FBI investigations of Clintonworld have been quietly in progress for some time. One of those investigations is digging into bribery allegations against the Clinton Foundation. The FBI agents working on these cases were reportedly very angry that top Bureau and Justice Department officials were pressuring them to drop their investigations.



4. Pay for Play: There has also been recent confirmation that the FBI has investigated influence-peddling allegations against the Clinton Foundation, which was so obviously used for that purpose that it’s funny to watch Clinton apologists insist nothing can be proven in a court of law. Some of the most vigorous infighting within the Bureau reportedly concerns whether pay-for-play investigations should move forward.



5. Illegal Use of a Nonprofit Organization: There are many laws governing the management of charitable organizations, generally intended to prevent them from becoming money-laundering operations, ripoff operations, and vehicles for political influence peddling. The Clinton Foundation and its galaxy of related operations may eventually find itself answering some questions about compliance with those laws, assuming the IRS decides to stop focusing its efforts on hassling mom-and-pop pro-life groups and kitchen-table Tea Party outfits. If the Foundation is ever held to account for any other impropriety, charges of abusing a nonprofit should be part of the legal package as well.



6. Racketeering: Former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy has recently observed that Hillary Clinton’s abuse of the State Department looks an awful lot like a “racketeering enterprise,” which could trigger the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act of 1971, more widely known as RICO. McCarthy explained:


7. Fraud: Wall Street analyst Charles Ortel has been building a case that the “Clinton Charity Network,” as he calls the complete system of Clinton operations, has committed “charity fraud of epic proportions.” In part, he refers to discrepancies between donor accounts and the Clinton Foundation’s books.


http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/31/top-7-charges-hillary-clinton-could-face-while-president/









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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 09:33:15 AM »
Howard,

Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" NOW?  NOW?

Are you oblivious to the dirty campaign and name calling between Jefferson and Adams?  It was arguably worse than it is today.

And as for calling Hillary a criminal, it's only true.  She is a criminal.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 09:36:51 AM »
Negative attacks when backed by data aren't negative attacks.

It is called exposing corruption.

But if you want to talk about our speculation of how bad her mental state and health are as negative attacks, then I might buy it.

She is a lizard-alien hybrid and needs to be cast into the 7th circle of hell.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2016, 09:38:20 AM »
Howard,

Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" NOW?  NOW?

Are you oblivious to the dirty campaign and name calling between Jefferson and Adams?  It was arguably worse than it is today.

And as for calling Hillary a criminal, it's only true.  She is a criminal.

Believe it or not I know about the famous Hamilton vs Burr pistol dual. ;)

These last 2 replies to my OP only illustrate my concern.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2016, 09:39:04 AM »
Believe it or not I know about the famous Hamilton vs Burr pistol dual. ;)

These last 2 replies to my OP only illustrate my concern.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2016, 09:42:46 AM »


Getbig approved campaign and debate style has gone mainstream.

Let the zombie apocalypse commence... ;)

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 09:54:06 AM »
It's my impression that most election talk/posts are some emotionally charged attack .
BOTH sides resort to an endless loop of insulting attacks on the other side.

It reminds me of 2 kids yelling at each other at the top of their lungs.
Neither one is listening and it's impossible to hear the other side.

I've LISTENED and read the pros and cons of Trump and Hillary.
BOTH of them have  strong and weak points.
In my opinion, it's up to the voter to weigh the +/- and make a judgment.
Based on that judgment, you vote for that candidate.

Contrary to some opinions, Trump isn't Hitler 2.0 and Hillary isn't an alien-lizard hybrid .  ;)



Prior to you voting for Hillary last week you were rarely if ever on here, seems you are having voter's remorse...

Howard just admit to yourself that you voted for the wrong person and then you can go back to telling fart jokes on the gossip forum.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 10:11:06 AM »
It's my impression that most election talk/posts are some emotionally charged attack .
BOTH sides resort to an endless loop of insulting attacks on the other side.

It reminds me of 2 kids yelling at each other at the top of their lungs.
Neither one is listening and it's impossible to hear the other side.

I've LISTENED and read the pros and cons of Trump and Hillary.
BOTH of them have  strong and weak points.
In my opinion, it's up to the voter to weigh the +/- and make a judgment.
Based on that judgment, you vote for that candidate.

Contrary to some opinions, Trump isn't Hitler 2.0 and Hillary isn't an alien-lizard hybrid .  ;)
if u watch a trump speak he is 90% policy 10% attack.

CNN now is laughable. They should be reporting on Hillary the crook but all they're taking about is negative trump.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2016, 10:30:01 AM »


Prior to you voting for Hillary last week you were rarely if ever on here, seems you are having voter's remorse...

Howard just admit to yourself that you voted for the wrong person and then you can go back to telling fart jokes on the gossip forum.
My thoughts exactly. Trying to convince himself now that he didn't make a very poor decision.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2016, 10:37:03 AM »


Prior to you voting for Hillary last week you were rarely if ever on here, seems you are having voter's remorse...

Howard just admit to yourself that you voted for the wrong person and then you can go back to telling fart jokes on the gossip forum.

Exactly,

Howard, my condolences about your mom.  But you didn't start posting this much in the politics board until after you were bashed for voting Hillary for no other reason than your mom wanted you to.

Now it seems your are trying hard to justify your actions.

You don't have to do this.  If you believe it was right to vote Hillary simply because your mom wanted you to, then own up to it and move on.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2016, 10:39:17 AM »


Prior to you voting for Hillary last week you were rarely if ever on here, seems you are having voter's remorse...

Howard just admit to yourself that you voted for the wrong person and then you can go back to telling fart jokes on the gossip forum.

THIS is a common reply I get from a lot of Trump supporters .

It's fine if they think I should have voted for Trump.
However, most diehard Trump supporters refuse to accept I honestly thought Hillary was the better choice.
To you/them, it seems impossible that any man would vote for her without regret.

Unlike you/them, I can understand why you would vote for Trump.
I don't think you're stupid or crazy or will regret it, etc.
I can understand the other side's view point without questioning my own judgment.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2016, 10:40:58 AM »
Exactly,

Howard, my condolences about your mom.  But you didn't start posting this much in the politics board until after you were bashed for voting Hillary for no other reason than your mom wanted you to.

Now it seems your are trying hard to justify your actions.

You don't have to do this.  If you believe it was right to vote Hillary simply because your mom wanted you to, then own up to it and move on.

I barely gave the politics forum a glance until recently.
I found some of the posts interesting mixed with a bunch of entertaining crap in true getbig style.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2016, 11:50:26 AM »

However, most diehard Trump supporters refuse to accept  my mom honestly thought Hillary was the better choice.
To you/them, it seems impossible that any man would vote for her without regret.

No, it is impossible for anyone to vote for her knowing what she has done/is. Don't make this a gender issue. Shows which way you lean in your thinking.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2016, 12:46:34 PM »
THIS is a common reply I get from a lot of Trump supporters .

It's fine if they think I should have voted for Trump.
However, most diehard Trump supporters refuse to accept I honestly thought Hillary was the better choice.
To you/them, it seems impossible that any man would vote for her without regret.

Unlike you/them, I can understand why you would vote for Trump.
I don't think you're stupid or crazy or will regret it, etc.
I can understand the other side's view point without questioning my own judgment.

I dont care it if is common or not, but it is the truth, and the fact is you rarely if ever were on here until you voted for Hillary, and now you post on here non-stop and that only shows that you are reaching for some sort of acceptance of you idiotic decision to vote for Hillary that you know was wrong, trying to make some logical sense of your lapse in judgement, even going as far as blaming it on your Mother(RIP)






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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2016, 05:59:00 PM »
Thanks for the kind words on my mom's passing.

I never have and never will call a Trump voter an idiot.

Why?

1. Hillary or Trump will be the next President . Regardless of any individual vote, they will become the leader of EVERY US citizen.

2. Rants and insults only further divide people. Once the election is over, it's over.
Unless some zealot wants a civil war or revolution, we all need to live here together.

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Re: Why are negative attacks, the main form of "debate" now?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2016, 07:24:45 PM »
Thanks for the kind words on my mom's passing.

I never have and never will call a Trump voter an idiot.

Why?

1. Hillary or Trump will be the next President . Regardless of any individual vote, they will become the leader of EVERY US citizen.

2. Rants and insults only further divide people. Once the election is over, it's over.
Unless some zealot wants a civil war or revolution, we all need to live here together.

Yes, I must admit this is true.  But you can't deny that it's seen in both groups, and that the media is widely responsible for it.