Hillary Clinton got the most Popular votes over Trump

[ratherbebig]

from what ive read hillary got the most votes. isnt this what matters in most countries over the world? that every individual vote counts.

[doison]

If only total votes counted then the candidates would spend all their time in California and large cities, ignoring the bulk of the country, and only pandering to the views of the people in a few select large metropolitan areas

[ratherbebig]

guess there's a point in that.

still, one would think that each and every vote should count.

[SuperTed]

The UK has a similar process to the US. It makes it almost impossible for any party outside the major two to make any significant impact - even if they were to win many votes.

[Thin Lizzy]

guess there's a point in that.

still, one would think that each and every vote should count.

Doison nailed it but I'll add a bit from another thread:

It's an idiotic argument because the candidates weren't trying to win the Popular vote. It they were, they would've done all their campaigning in NY, CA & TX.

It's like saying that the Indians should've won the World Series because they scored more total runs than the Cubs.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

If only total votes counted then the candidates would spend all their time in California and large cities, ignoring the bulk of the country, and only pandering to the views of the people in a few select large metropolitan areas

This^^^If it was just a vote total, there would be a much easier direct path to the Presidency. The "fly over" States would become obsolete and die off because they wouldn't have the funding. When large amounts of people are in the same area, it's easy to manipulate those people politically. It's why large cities are always liberal. Poor people move to the big cities because it's easier to live and eat there. Basically creating liberal cess pools of shit around every corner...

[Rudee]

Popular vote doesn't guarantee Presidency.

[El Diablo Blanco]

lol, so then it's a rigged system.  You just need to win certain states, but dumb that nebraska splits their votes where most states are all or nothing.  It would be better represented if all states gave a percentage of the electoral vote to represent the votes. 

Take away Cali, NY and NY and Hillary did fuck all.  She ran a shitty campaign.

Her slogan "I'm with her" was so self centered.  All about her.  Fuck her.

[Rudee]

lol, so then it's a rigged system.  You just need to win certain states, but dumb that nebraska splits their votes where most states are all or nothing. 

It's a poker game.  You can win with different hands.  In elections these hands are called paths to victory.

[El Diablo Blanco]

It's a poker game.  You can win with different hands.  In elections these hands are called paths to victory.

Yeah, giving a whole state and say 34 votes to someone when they won 49.7% to 49.6% is dumb.  So the vote of those that lost by .1% is just thrown out?  Shouldn't they split the 34 votes?  Would make more sense and representative. 

[njflex]

Yeah, giving a whole state and say 34 votes to someone when they won 49.7% to 49.6% is dumb.  So the vote of those that lost by .1% is just thrown out?  Shouldn't they split the 34 votes?  Would make more sense and representative. 

ITS CRAZY YOU WAIT ALL NIGHT TO SEE  ELECTORAL 274 AS THE WINNER ALL OTHER #'S ARE FLUFF..

[residue]

If only total votes counted then the candidates would spend all their time in California and large cities, ignoring the bulk of the country, and only pandering to the views of the people in a few select large metropolitan areas

rightfully so, most(all) of those states are shit.

[Yamcha]

rightfully so, most(all) of those states are shit.

Let's see how long you have country if you neglect those "shit" flyover states

[Thin Lizzy]

Apparently, some people are still in stage one. Don't worry. It will pass.

[Jizmonkey]

Close to 120 million votes and she had about 150000 more. Very close.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Just mean more losers

[loco]

Did Hillary really win the popular vote?  I don't believe that.

According to this map
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elections

Once Trump reached and passed the 270 electoral vote mark, they stopped counting.   Unless I'm missing something, it looks like they didn't finish counting votes in NH, MI and AZ.  Trump was winning MI and AZ.

[residue]

Let's see how long you have country if you neglect those "shit" flyover states

most of those states are massive welfare recipients and cant match the gdp of ny+cali. i imagine the country would be a lot better off

[delta9mda]

The large populations of a few states do not represent the entire country

[El Diablo Blanco]

This^^^If it was just a vote total, there would be a much easier direct path to the Presidency. The "fly over" States would become obsolete and die off because they wouldn't have the funding. When large amounts of people are in the same area, it's easy to manipulate those people politically. It's why large cities are always liberal. Poor people move to the big cities because it's easier to live and eat there. Basically creating liberal cess pools of shit around every corner...

Not true.  She only got 5 million from Cali.  That's 10% of her total.  All of the states matter to win the popular vote.

[Thin Lizzy]

Had the race been decided by popular vote, what is the evidence that Trump wouldn't have adopted a successful strategy for that type of race?

Saying that Trump didn't do something that he wasn't trying to do falls into the category of pathetic excuse making that is one of the hallmarks of Liberalism.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

rightfully so, most(all) of those states are shit.

The shitty States are the ones with the most people. It's where all the crime comes from. The haves and the have nots live in those areas.

[illuminati]

from what ive read hillary got the most votes. isnt this what matters in most countries over the world? that every individual vote counts.

Yes on the numbers alone it makes sense who gets most votes wins.

That's not how it works though.

I agree it's kinda odd.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Not true.  She only got 5 million from Cali.  That's 10% of her total.  All of the states matter to win the popular vote.

Point being if voting was set up by popular vote only, America would completely change. There would be 4 or 5 highly populated areas and then nothing.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Point being if voting was set up by popular vote only, America would completely change. There would be 4 or 5 highly populated areas and then nothing.

The electoral votes should remain the same except that the votes get split based on percentage and the winner of the state gets a +1.

So if Cali had 50 votes and the candidates had 48.6% vs. 48.2% then both get 25 but the winner gets 26 votes.  This way the population is still represented and the spread is even across the country.