Author Topic: Hillary Clinton got the most Popular votes over Trump  (Read 6632 times)

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2016, 02:44:01 PM »







Yes on the numbers alone it makes sense who gets most votes wins.

That's not how it works though.

I agree it's kinda odd.


It's to prevent the United States of California and New York.

Either way, it doesn't matter, if popular vote was the game, campaigns would have been run differently, ad-buys radically different, turn-outs would have been very different in safe states, and so on.   All that would have a far larger effect than the razor-thin margin you say she "won" on.
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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2016, 02:48:43 PM »
lol, so then it's a rigged system.  You just need to win certain states, but dumb that nebraska splits their votes where most states are all or nothing.  It would be better represented if all states gave a percentage of the electoral vote to represent the votes. 

Take away Cali, NY and NY and Hillary did fuck all.  She ran a shitty campaign.

Yeah take away NY two times.
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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2016, 02:55:22 PM »

It's to prevent the United States of California and New York.

Either way, it doesn't matter, if popular vote was the game, campaigns would have been run differently, ad-buys radically different, turn-outs would have been very different in safe states, and so on.   All that would have a far larger effect than the razor-thin margin you say she "won" on.









I didn't say she won.
In fact I hate the horrible vile bitch
& am very pleased Donald won.

As you and others have stated if it had been an election by most
Votes it would have been targeted & campaigned differently.

My point again is just looking at total votes if she did get more votes
It can appear odd.

Who cares Trump won - and hopefully she will just Fcuk off.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2016, 05:31:53 PM »








I didn't say she won.
In fact I hate the horrible vile bitch
& am very pleased Donald won.

As you and others have stated if it had been an election by most
Votes it would have been targeted & campaigned differently.

My point again is just looking at total votes if she did get more votes
It can appear odd.

Who cares Trump won - and hopefully she will just Fcuk off.

I wasn't implying you thought that, was just expanding on your comment of the weirdness of EC.

I think she will go away.
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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2016, 05:41:03 PM »
Can someone tell Generation Snowflake that you dont fill the street around the country with protests the day after your vote lost


grow a fucking pair


WTF?

How is this even tolerated from these retards?

Can we just carpet bomb these millennial fuckers protesting around the country in the streets right now?

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2016, 05:49:03 PM »
Can someone tell Generation Snowflake that you dont fill the street around the country with protests the day after your vote lost


grow a fucking pair


WTF?

How is this even tolerated from these retards?

Can we just carpet bomb these millennial fuckers protesting around the country in the streets right now?

What exactly are they protesting? Hillary conceded. It's not as though she's claiming foul.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2016, 06:00:15 PM »







Yes on the numbers alone it makes sense who gets most votes wins.

That's not how it works though.

I agree it's kinda odd.

I recall the moaning and groaning for a popular vote from Democrats after the 2000 election.  If they wanted to amend the constitution they had two years to do so - 2009-2011. 

Some states want to bypass an amendment and have signed on to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, but not enough states have committed.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2016, 07:19:50 AM »
This race will end Trump 306 to Hillary 232.  The Bush Gore election was 271/267.  Whole different ballgame.
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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2016, 08:45:55 AM »
I haven't looked at the numbers, but I would guess the vote totals are largely impacted by the margin in California. 

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2016, 08:49:50 AM »
I haven't looked at the numbers, but I would guess the vote totals are largely impacted by the margin in California.  

Los Angeles County gave her 1.1 million votes in the popular vote alone.

LA doesn't speak for the rest of the country. Thank god for the electoral college.



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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2016, 08:59:03 AM »
Los Angeles County gave her 1.1 million votes in the popular vote alone.

LA doesn't speak for the rest of the country. Thank god for the electoral college.












That is an eye opening map.
Thanks for posting.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2016, 09:33:46 AM »
Los Angeles County gave her 1.1 million votes in the popular vote alone.

LA doesn't speak for the rest of the country. Thank god for the electoral college.





Holy smokes.   :o

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2016, 10:01:07 AM »
Apparently, getting the most votes isn't that important. Otherwise, Hillary would've been in the White House sitting next to Obama, and not Trump.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2016, 10:58:08 PM »
The electoral votes should remain the same except that the votes get split based on percentage and the winner of the state gets a +1.

So if Cali had 50 votes and the candidates had 48.6% vs. 48.2% then both get 25 but the winner gets 26 votes.  This way the population is still represented and the spread is even across the country.

That would still disenfranchise rural areas and most red states. Winner-take-all works better for the EC, because it makes the politicians work and sweat much more.

The razor-thin margins by which Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida told the whole tale.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2016, 11:01:38 PM »
from what ive read hillary got the most votes. isnt this what matters in most countries over the world? that every individual vote counts.

It does. But, that only applies in each state. It's the winner-take-all aspect of the Electoral College that makes every vote count.

No matter what the margin is, it's winner-take-all. Trump squeaked out wins in the midwest by a less than a point.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2016, 12:23:09 AM »
CNN predicts Trump will have the most votes. HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2016, 10:41:19 AM »
CNN predicts Trump will have the most votes. HAHAHAHAHAHA

so you're putting your trust in CNN?

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2016, 10:56:33 AM »
so you're putting your trust in CNN?

It means that he really won by even more than they say.

Kinda like with the polls that had Hillary winning by small margin.

Their lies have to be in the range of plausibility.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2016, 12:55:34 PM »
so you're putting your trust in CNN?
If CNN has to begrudgingly admit, there must be truth to it.  Usually they lie, lie and lie again. hahahahahahaha

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2016, 01:03:20 PM »
so you're putting your trust in CNN?
You had to have that explained why he posted that, haha.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2016, 08:18:31 AM »
well looks like CNN will be wrong again.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2016, 08:26:21 AM »
Hillary was supposed to CRUSH Trump and landslide remember?  A few weeks ago they werre talking about running up the score just to get a large mandate - now they are making excuses. 



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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2016, 08:40:13 AM »
CNN's final poll of polls before election day had Clinton up by 3 points.
And she'll probably end up winning the pop vote by 1 point something.

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Re: hillary got the most votes
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2016, 08:59:42 AM »
CNN's final poll of polls before election day had Clinton up by 3 points.
And she'll probably end up winning the pop vote by 1 point something.




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Re: Hillary Clinton got the most Popular votes over Trump
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2016, 03:43:08 PM »

First of all, not all of the votes are counted. Even here in California, there are still absentee and provisional votes that never were counted, and won't be.

But a person said it pretty clear this morning on the new regarding the Popular Vote vs the Electoral Vote.  Say it is the World Series, and you have 7 games, and one team wins only 3 games, but scores 50 runs, while the other team only scores 40 runs, should the team that scored 50 runs win?