i went to the gym today...

[ratherbebig]

...and got a new membership.

didnt work out, but at least i got to the front desk.

i am making progress. no need to rush things.

after that i went to mcdonalds and had two big macs.

im planning to start training on thursday. this will be the first time in three months. since most people will start training in january im way ahead of the crowd. WAY AHEAD.

[Skeeter]

Good luck with the training.

[ratherbebig]

thank you

i have a problem with consistancy. i dont need steroids i just need to hit the gym 3 times a week for a year or two and be injury free.

i think most people would be pretty close to their genetic max if they just did that and pretty happy with the result.

[Nether Animal]

i think most people would be pretty close to their genetic max if they just did that and pretty happy with the result.

Yeah, I'm sure you are the expert 

[ratherbebig]

Yeah, I'm sure you are the expert 

well wouldnt you agree that to reach say 80% of your natural genetic limit can be done rather quickly, then the remaining 20% or so take longer and then to exceed that you would need steroids

[Nether Animal]

Most people, even those that go 3 times a week for 1, 2 years are nowhere near their "genetic limit."

[ratherbebig]

Most people, even those that go 3 times a week for 1, 2 years are nowhere near their "genetic limit."

really so where you reckon they're percent wise? 50% meaning they have another 50% growth to get outta their arms, legs, shoulders, back and 50% more musclemass to add to their frame? seems pretty unlikely.
ill stick to my 80% estimate.

[Nether Animal]

really so where you reckon they're percent wise? 50% meaning they have another 50% growth to get outta their arms, legs, shoulders, back and 50% more musclemass to add to their frame? seems pretty unlikely.
ill stick to my 80% estimate.

Sounds like you are obsessed with numbers, trying to put a definitive quantity on something that can't be judged with such a grand, sweeping stroke. Far too many X factors go into it. Diet, genetics, outside stressors, et al.

 

[ratherbebig]

Sounds like you are obsessed with numbers, trying to put a definitive quantity on something that can't be judged with such a grand, sweeping stroke. Far too many X factors go into it. Diet, genetics, outside stressors, et al.

 

and there i was thinking you had anything to say and would want to discuss this but instead you avoid it alltogether.

ok fair enough.

you reckon people will grow and grow and grow for years and years and years, never even close to their genetic max...
when in reality there is zero reason to believe this.

[ratherbebig]

alexander skarsgard before lifting weights



alexander skarsgard after lifting weights, closing in on his genetic max.

[SuperTed]

Most people, even those that go 3 times a week for 1, 2 years are nowhere near their "genetic limit."

It depends. I think if you train and diet properly and consistently from the very start, you'll be close to your genetic limit by the end of the second year.

[Nether Animal]

and there i was thinking you had anything to say and would want to discuss this but instead you avoid it alltogether.

ok fair enough.

you reckon people will grow and grow and grow for years and years and years, never even close to their genetic max...
when in reality there is zero reason to believe this.

And you are reckoning that all people grow at their maximum rate just by going to the gym a few times a week. I'm not surprised that the speculative inanity of such a statement evades you.

[Nether Animal]

It depends. I think if you train and diet properly and consistently from the very start, you'll be close to your genetic limit by the end of the second year.

Which is the point I was trying to make. All of those factors have to be in check, and even then.. training style, intensity etc. Two years to max out? Maybe on the far end of the spectrum but hardly the norm.

[ratherbebig]

And you are reckoning that all people grow at their maximum rate just by going to the gym a few times a week. I'm not surprised that the speculative inanity of such a statement evades you.

most people will make their most dramatic change to their physique in the first years. after that theyre not gonna make any significant improvements in their bodyparts. theyre not gonna double their arm size etc

[Nether Animal]

most people will make their most dramatic change to their physique in the first years. after that theyre not gonna make any significant improvements in their bodyparts. theyre not gonna double their arm size etc

And you know this how? The first post of this thread is you admitting you haven't even started working out, and chose McDonalds instead...

[ratherbebig]

And you know this how? The first post of this thread is you admitting you haven't even started working out, and chose McDonalds instead...

you dont think it make sense that people make their most gains in the beginning rather than later? you reckon it either is an even progress or that the gains will start slow and then speed up? to be honest thats the first time ever i heard someone think that. quite amazing!
so talk about 'beginner gains' and people being motivated by seeing progress in the gym etc just goes outta the window. no for you its even or gains come after many, many years!

incredible!

[Nether Animal]

When did I say that didn't make sense... ?

Moronic thread and gimmick.

[ratherbebig]

When did I say that didn't make sense... ?

Moronic thread and gimmick.

here comes the whiny bitching gimmick/troll-response

stick to posting pictures of bodybuilders, you obviously are not knowledgable enough to discuss training.

realize youre alone in thinking most of your gains = closing in on your genetic max = does NOT come early in your training career.

[ratherbebig]

young brad pitt before hitting the weights



brad pitt in fight club, would it take him 3 times a week for 10-20 years to reach that physique? not likely... 1-2 years is FAR more plausable.

[Mr Anabolic]

Can a mod with balls please shut down these ridiculous gimmicks.

[ratherbebig]

Can a mod with balls please shut down these ridiculous gimmicks.

Nether Animal may be clueless but i dont think he's a gimmick

[Yamcha]

Nether Animal may be clueless but i dont think he's a gimmick

He's my only gimmick 

[ratherbebig]

He's my only gimmick 

oh ok its hard to keep up i wish people who claim i am a gimmick tell us whos gimmick i am