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Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« on: November 19, 2016, 08:20:05 AM »
I don't think so.

Before Trump got into the race, had you asked me who the next president would be, I would've said Hillary because I figured the Republicans would nominate another milquetoast candidate ala Romney who would not have hit hard enough to take her out.

Cruz would've given her a decent run but would've come up short.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2016, 08:44:17 AM »
I really don't know if any other candidate would have beat her. Trump wasn't a politician and was able to play by a different set of rules. He didn't care about being politically correct and was able to dismiss flip flops as he was doing the best thing for his companies etc.

I definitely thing Bernie would have probably beat the republican field with his populist message even trump.

The dems really shit the bed by pushing Hilary with all her baggage and ongoing issues. I mean to lose in the way she did is bad enough but to be the person who lost to Donald Trump LMFAO.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2016, 08:56:53 AM »
IMO, Trump would've worked Bernie. While they both have a populist message, Sanders solution is yet more government. People wouldn't have bought that the answer is greater taxes and regulation.

Sanders campaigned hard for this Elizabeth Warren wannabe and she lost big, IN NY.


Bernie Sanders stumps for Zephyr Teachout in New Paltz

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/ulster-county/2016/09/16/bernie-sanders-zephyr-teachout-new-paltz/90425660/

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2016, 09:04:31 AM »
Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?

Nope.
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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2016, 09:31:04 AM »
I really don't know if any other candidate would have beat her. Trump wasn't a politician and was able to play by a different set of rules. He didn't care about being politically correct and was able to dismiss flip flops as he was doing the best thing for his companies etc.

I definitely thing Bernie would have probably beat the republican field with his populist message even trump.

The dems really shit the bed by pushing Hilary with all her baggage and ongoing issues. I mean to lose in the way she did is bad enough but to be the person who lost to Donald Trump LMFAO.

No, America would not elect a senile Socialist, regardless of what Generation Snowflake thinks..

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2016, 10:50:39 AM »
Things which set Trump apart from Hillary, are the same things that set him apart from the others imo.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2016, 11:02:42 AM »
Any Republican candidate would have beaten Hillary easier that Trump did. The average RINO, non-entity Republican, would never generated as much fake news as Trump did. The only news stories would have been about Hilary's crimes, which were many. They couldn't have been ignored by the MSM, because that's all the "news" that there would have been to report on.

Hillary was a lousy candidate! The democrats have only themselves to blame, by putting that piece of shit up for the Presidency, because they were stupid enough to believe her fake, lying public relations.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2016, 11:52:01 AM »
Cruz is the only other one in my opinion. Both he and Trump bite back.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2016, 02:09:39 AM »
Pretty sure not. They kept saying the sting guy got the nomination. I kept saying the perfect guy to take on Hillary got it.  No one could have withstood the onslaught of corruption and media bias and collusion that trump did. Believe me, no matter who it was the Dems would have either uncovered for fabricated dirt and spoon fed it to the media and the majority of America would have licked it up.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2016, 10:41:38 AM »
To answer the original question, I think some more traditional Republicans could have been competitive; even some of the candidates would have been, despite the fact that the field was really shitty this time around.

Beyond the email leaks and all that jazz, any opponent would have had three advantages: first, it's hard for a party to win the White House three times in a row; second, the party was clearly splintered and Bernie supporters were butthurt and weren't ready to vote for Clinton en masse; and lastly, there was Clinton herself, who (love or hate her) used to be a formidable campaigner, came across like a tired, old grandmother, who's starting to show signs of dementia.


No, America would not elect a senile Socialist, regardless of what Generation Snowflake thinks..

A lot of people said America wouldn't elect a twice-divorced septuagenarian former casino owner, with a bad spray-on tan and no government experience at all... and yet, here we are.

Both Trump and Sanders saw something that the others didn't, and both succeeded in tapping it. Both were "insurgent" candidates in a sense.

One lost because the party elders had already decided to nominate a deeply flawed candidate on account of her genitals and having paid her dues.

One won because his opponents never quite took him seriously and didn't figure out, until it was way too late, that he had thrown the rulebook away.

Either way, both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders sent a really loud message to their respective parties. It will be interesting to see what the parties learned, and what happens in the midterms. I suspect more of the same, if the reactions of the Democrats and their precious little supporters so far are any indication.

Beyond that,  Trump, love or hate him, redefined political campaigning - it remains to be seen if it will last. It may be difficult for anyone but Trump to follow the Trump rulebook (especially since the only rule in it is "there are no rules" and politicos don't like that) but who knows? Politicians are definitive proof of the theory of evolution and natural selection.

One thing is for sure, the 2020 elections (and to a lesser degree, the 2018 midterms) will be very interesting.

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Re: Would any other Republican Candidate have beaten Hillary?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2016, 11:37:09 AM »
Come on all!

This was not about Trump winning, it was ALL about Hillary losing. You could've paired up Chewbacca against Hillary and the furry friend would've won.

Obama, a black man, ran for president based on "Change you can believe in"... Americans trust a negro for the first time in their fucking lives and Barack fails them miserably. Hillary asks Obama to campaign for her in certain states, which he does, even though his popularity there was "questionable," and he spoils it for her.

I see neither a woman nor a nonwhite person winning the presidency any time soon now.