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The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The European Union
« on: November 26, 2016, 11:39:44 AM »
In Europe, right-wing parties find voice after Trump’s stunning performance



BERLIN — As the initial shock of the outcome of the 2016 U.S. elections wears off and the imminent presidency of Donald Trump becomes a reality, right-wing populist parties across Europe are betting their electoral fortunes are on the rise too.

Mr. Trump’s stunning victory, coming on the heels of Britain’s decision to pull out of the European Union, has sent an electric surge through right-wing political parties and figures across the continent, who argue that after years in the political wilderness, their moment has come. Many of Mr. Trump’s populist themes — a hard line on immigration, a distrust of trade deals, a defense of traditional values and a suspicion of international organizations and international elites — are the same ones that are getting new attention on this side of the Atlantic.

The leader of France’s far-right Front National and a candidate for next year’s French presidential elections, Marine Le Pen, called Mr. Trump’s victory “a sign of hope” for those disillusioned by globalization, telling CNN that Mr. Trump “has made possible what was presented as completely impossible.”

Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party, who successfully fronted the Brexit campaign to take the United Kingdom out of the European Union this summer, was the first European politician to visit Mr. Trump in person after Election Day. After posing for photographs with the president-elect in Trump Tower’s gold-plated elevator, Mr. Farage — not Prime Minister Teresa May — is now widely viewed as the British politician with the most influence in the incoming American administration.

Mr. Trump’s victory is proof that populists are credible contenders despite opposition from major media outlets and established parties, said Heiko Giebler, a research associate at the Berlin Social Science Center. “It’s similar to what happened after Brexit. Leaders will use this to emphasize that populist movements can be successful, and that they can win even if the odds are against them.”

European populist movements have an ally in the electoral calendar: They’re likely to score more victories in the near future, said analysts.

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2016, 11:46:30 AM »
I hope ALL of Europe wakes up.
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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2016, 12:07:21 PM »

Trump was needed in Europe too.
It shows us all that it is possible. Many people are feeling they have no voice and don't hence bother to go vote.
Trump will help to change this attitude in EU.

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2016, 12:26:03 PM »
We should have more people like this on the mainstream news every night.

Another Terror Group Arrested in France: Vote Le Pen



3:20 - Why Being In Eastern Europe is more advantageous than Western Europe

4:25 - Sweden and Germany competing for 'Most Cucked Nation On Earth'

5:15 - The EU is a dying edifice, it won't last unless it becomes a complete tyranny

10:15 - The Rise of Nationalism in Great Britain, France, Hungary, Denmark; Rise of Feminist Party in Sweden

11:15 - The Political Establishment is falling apart at a monumental level; Drive the growth of The Far Right and Far Left

12:50 - Rise of right wing civic nationalism in Latin America, Eastern Africa(backlash against the Chinese)

14:10 - Why Trump is advantageous over Hillary for United States interests

16:45 - Canada will suffer if it keeps following the Trudeau path

17:25 - One of the lessons of Vietnam

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2016, 12:50:13 PM »
The problem I see with Europe is a lack of Entrepreneurial spirit, which is a hallmark of capitalism. Virtually all of Europes' biggest companies are 100+ years old.

Someone once told me that Europe is a great place to live unless someone sees you trying.  Not sure how you change this mentality.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2016, 12:54:55 PM »
Basically verifying what most of us already knew. Trump wipes his hands clean of involvement in going after Hillary and lets the pitbulls in Congress do all the dirty work. Another brilliant political move by the President Elect.

Darrell Issa Confirms that Trump Will Let FBI and AG Unleash on Clinton - 11/26/16


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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2016, 01:12:04 PM »
I was against Trump because he often came across as a retard (not always), but if his victory somehow creates a change in Europe and its immigration policy count me a board the bandwagon.

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2016, 01:12:20 PM »
The problem I see with Europe is a lack of Entrepreneurial spirit, which is a hallmark of capitalism. Virtually all of Europes' biggest companies are 100+ years old.

Someone once told me that Europe is a great place to live unless someone sees you trying.  Not sure how you change this mentality.

Very solid point.

I can remember my grandfather telling me stories about his travels in France during the 50's and how laid back it was even back then. You literally couldn't find a place to eat after 2 pm until 5 or 6 pm. Completely unimaginable to a young man from the United States.

My belief on why this is a completely different environment is that the world is so different now compared to even 10 years ago. 10 years ago the mainstream media controlled the narrative. Now WE control the narrative. Threads like this...young people from all over the world are reading it. The world can change so quickly. Check out 5:55 to 8:40. USSR born Cathy Young talks about Soviet censorship and about how much things can change(that we never expected was possible) in such a short period of time.


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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2016, 01:48:29 PM »
Steven Crowder and Alex Jones going in on The Young Turks  ;D :D :) :D ;D ;D :D :) ;D  :) :D :) ;)


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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2016, 03:04:19 AM »
The problem I see with Europe is a lack of Entrepreneurial spirit, which is a hallmark of capitalism. Virtually all of Europes' biggest companies are 100+ years old.

Someone once told me that Europe is a great place to live unless someone sees you trying.  Not sure how you change this mentality.
Once Europeans see the writing on the wall they will change. It is inevitable. Just the way Nature works. They will realize that they were tricked. And the backlash will not be pretty. I can tell you that right now.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2016, 03:07:00 AM »
I was against Trump because he often came across as a retard (not always), but if his victory somehow creates a change in Europe and its immigration policy count me a board the bandwagon.
You must not have been watching his speeches. I did and he was anything but a retard. Seemed like a genius to me compared to all the whores in Washington. Supporting Trump was a completely natural fit for males with healthy Testosterone levels and there was never any alternative or second thought. It was just natural that he should be President. I am glad there are still men with healthy Test levels in USA!!

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2016, 04:46:50 AM »
You must not have been watching his speeches.

How do you "watch" a speech?


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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2016, 06:15:48 AM »
How do you "watch" a speech?



youtube and television  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2016, 07:09:23 AM »
Very solid point.

I can remember my grandfather telling me stories about his travels in France during the 50's and how laid back it was even back then. You literally couldn't find a place to eat after 2 pm until 5 or 6 pm. Completely unimaginable to a young man from the United States.

My belief on why this is a completely different environment is that the world is so different now compared to even 10 years ago. 10 years ago the mainstream media controlled the narrative. Now WE control the narrative. Threads like this...young people from all over the world are reading it. The world can change so quickly. Check out 5:55 to 8:40. USSR born Cathy Young talks about Soviet censorship and about how much things can change(that we never expected was possible) in such a short period of time.



Watched just the first part. What's really eye opening is her saying that American Universities remind her of the old Soviet Union where everyone has to say the right thing.

Good post.

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2016, 08:42:41 AM »
Watched just the first part. What's really eye opening is her saying that American Universities remind her of the old Soviet Union where everyone has to say the right thing.

Good post.

Yeah the parallels are just incredible, aren't they?

Andrew Breitbart gives an example of where a lot of this started in California just after World War 2 @20:30 to 24:10

Another Classic Video.



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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2016, 08:58:41 AM »
Censorship in Europe, How go get around it(for our European Brothers)


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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2016, 10:40:32 AM »
Censorship in Europe, How go get around it(for our European Brothers)



Who is this guy? Looks like some metal nerd but is surprisingly articulate in what I've watched.

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2016, 11:11:32 AM »
Who is this guy? Looks like some metal nerd but is surprisingly articulate in what I've watched.

styxhexenhammer666 of youtube

One of the most accurate predictors of the 2016 election.

In fact, I mainly watched his election night coverage instead of the mainstream.

I believe this is where media is headed eventually... the power will more and more be given into the hands of the little guy with just a microphone and a basement.

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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2016, 12:35:54 PM »
styxhexenhammer666 of youtube

One of the most accurate predictors of the 2016 election.

In fact, I mainly watched his election night coverage instead of the mainstream.

I believe this is where media is headed eventually... the power will more and more be given into the hands of the little guy with just a microphone and a basement.

From the greatest critic of Socialism:

Many who are self-taught far excel the doctors, masters, and bachelors of the most renowned universities.

-Ludwig von Mises

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2016, 01:07:42 PM »
From the greatest critic of Socialism:

Many who are self-taught far excel the doctors, masters, and bachelors of the most renowned universities.

-Ludwig von Mises

The rise of people like this in media and eventually Presidential tickets with minorities at the top will eventually break the back of The Democrat Party.

Breitbart hinted at the power of this by using the example of a Cain/West ticket but it could be any combination of minorities with a strong message and good communication/campaigning skills. The Left would have zero counter attack in such a scenario.

@ 20:15 to 20:45

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2016, 08:33:08 PM »
its not really rize of right wingers..its rize of sanity...we had enough of the balonie distruction that evil evil bakrak Hussein Obama did to the west..he abused the west and during it all took down the journalism and brought it to its knees to a point it ceased to exist in any fair manner


here is what i just posted on gh15 boarding,, its the truth.. its the whole truth ..and nothing! but! the! fucking! truth!

and guess what ..we won! the people have won!  so barak Hussein Obama is going to be undo ..everything tht evil thing did will be undone mark my words ...he has a month and a half to play president ..the journey of distruction ended and the west is back!




"we must bi pass the media... there is no other option

the western media is no longer journalizm it is totalitarian and communistic ,, it is rating controlled and technology oriented with very minimal to non existant  legit journalizm

we must bi pass the media

media is dead

the new western administration must bi pass the media ..until it can bring more fairness ...even then i believe there got to be a break on the monopoly and due to the severe case we are talking about here...there got to be many more media outlets along the next decade

journalizm is! dead"


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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 08:46:35 AM »
Censorship in Europe, How go get around it(for our European Brothers)



Looks like he was banned from "Great Clips"

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Re: The Rise of Nationalism, Populism; Fall of The Mainstream Media
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 08:51:37 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2016, 09:25:55 AM »
Looks like he was banned from "Great Clips"