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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2016, 08:13:03 PM »
So then, are the icecaps not melting? Thank goodness! I was really worried about this. And now I must worry if the snow we've had here in Portland these past few days is a harbinger of a future freeze.  Oh wait; I'm 72 years old. Chances are none of this will happen in my lifetime or that of my current offspring.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2016, 03:32:26 AM »
The same tired leftist argument...."it's not up for debate".  Completely ignoring the data, and and arguments that have been taking place for many years on this topic.  Making no attempt to prove you are correct, just declaring the discussion over.  I've got news for you, that's not how science works.  You don't just declare something a fact, slam the books shut and stop questioning it.  Science is the constant questioning of everything we think we know.  Asking why, how, why not.  Thinking, analyzing, debating, testing.  Scientists, as brilliant as they are, don't know everything.  New information frequently comes to light that takes scientific consensus and turns it on it's head.

LOL who is hurling insults?

it's not up for debate, the last decade was the hottest on record and each year was hotter than the next. This is a fact, not up for debate, scientists don't argue facts, you are mixing up interpretation with facts. There are 8 planets, why there are only eight and not 15 is debatable.

If you prove something you don't need to go over it again. The globe is heating, basic fact. A time's article (politics) is not science.

Science has no agenda, you think newton thought of gravity based on mass for some tax free money or something?
















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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2016, 03:32:53 AM »
Coach go and do something with your life, where does it get you posting about politics on a fucking internet forum all the time? Your a fucking loser, i bet you molest little boys in your spare time you sick piece of shit.

fuck you

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2016, 03:37:29 AM »
This is a good post.

You are so blinded by hatred you can't see that this is my point lol.

He literally re-hashed (no offense to avxo, he is spot on) what I said  (because it is logical).

whats the point of even counterpointing me if you aren't actually reading what I am saying or having an open mind? To make yourself feel good? truth matters more than feelings.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2016, 03:42:42 AM »
https://googleweblight.com/?lite_url=https://www.iceagenow.info/boston-coldest-december-16-133-years/&s=1&f=1&ts=1482029908&sig=AF9NedlvScF4xpPhtXYfSW3KTiPWK0cTxA

I use to think you were trolling, but since you melted and changed accounts multiple times I have concluded you are actually as deluded as I suspected.

This is a day Joe lol.

let's reframe it into concepts you are use to working with, if someone has a bad day at the gym in terms of lifts but has been gradually gaining strength does that mean they haven't gotten stronger?


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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2016, 08:54:34 AM »
I use to think you were trolling, but since you melted and changed accounts multiple times I have concluded you are actually as deluded as I suspected.

This is a day Joe lol.

let's reframe it into concepts you are use to working with, if someone has a bad day at the gym in terms of lifts but has been gradually gaining strength does that mean they haven't gotten stronger?



1. Last time I changed accounts was eight years ago, Two years after Gore said were all going die.

2. Are we dead yet? No, are we a lighter in the wallet because of the "Global Warming" (or is climate change?) yes. Does this mean I am dismissing science? Depends on where you get your info from. If you don't agree with the lefts "science" then I guess that means all science other than that, is dismissed. No matter what science says, again, NOTHING will happen in the next five lifetimes. It's all bullshit and a moot point.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2016, 10:28:46 AM »
1. Last time I changed accounts was eight years ago, Two years after Gore said were all going die.

2. Are we dead yet? No, are we a lighter in the wallet because of the "Global Warming" (or is climate change?) yes. Does this mean I am dismissing science? Depends on where you get your info from. If you don't agree with the lefts "science" then I guess that means all science other than that, is dismissed. No matter what science says, again, NOTHING will happen in the next five lifetimes. It's all bullshit and a moot point.

You know nothing about science in general or climate science in particular and you aren't qualified to make this assertion. You see "conspiracies" everywhere because your political taskmasters want you to.

A few decades back, you may very well have been protesting bans of CFCs and claiming that we don't really know if there's actually a hole forming in the ozone layer. Again, because your taskmasters would have told you so.

You exemplify the dangers of an education system that doesn't teach children the basic tenets of science and the basics of the scientific approach. Not only are you unable to understand what the science actually says, you fancy yourself qualified to dismiss it based on nonsense like "well, if the climate was warming why is this shaping up to be the coldest winter in the last decade?"

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2016, 02:01:59 PM »
LOL who is hurling insults?

it's not up for debate, the last decade was the hottest on record and each year was hotter than the next. This is a fact, not up for debate, scientists don't argue facts, you are mixing up interpretation with facts. There are 8 planets, why there are only eight and not 15 is debatable.

If you prove something you don't need to go over it again. The globe is heating, basic fact. A time's article (politics) is not science.

Science has no agenda, you think newton thought of gravity based on mass for some tax free money or something?


Not sure where this insult is in that post.  I criticized your argument (if you can call it that), I did not criticize you.

You think I haven't really read your posts, I feel the same way about you not reading or understanding mine.  I think you are projecting other people's arguments onto me.

I still think it's naive to say that science has no agenda and politics play no role, especially as it relates to this issue.

Here's an idea, I'm going to live my life.  When global warming destroys the planet I want you to come to Getbig and post "I told you so" right before we all die.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2016, 03:01:32 PM »
So then, are the icecaps not melting? Thank goodness! I was really worried about this. And now I must worry if the snow we've had here in Portland these past few days is a harbinger of a future freeze.  Oh wait; I'm 72 years old. Chances are none of this will happen in my lifetime or that of my current offspring.

Were they ever not melting?

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2016, 03:03:18 PM »
Were they ever not melting?
when they were freezing?

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2016, 03:16:36 PM »
when they were freezing?

Well were they getting more frozen? Or less frozen ?

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2016, 06:45:18 PM »
You know nothing about science in general or climate science in particular and you aren't qualified to make this assertion. You see "conspiracies" everywhere because your political taskmasters want you to.

A few decades back, you may very well have been protesting bans of CFCs and claiming that we don't really know if there's actually a hole forming in the ozone layer. Again, because your taskmasters would have told you so.

You exemplify the dangers of an education system that doesn't teach children the basic tenets of science and the basics of the scientific approach. Not only are you unable to understand what the science actually says, you fancy yourself qualified to dismiss it based on nonsense like "well, if the climate was warming why is this shaping up to be the coldest winter in the last decade?"

Oh stop. I'm not a climate scientist and neither is anyone on here (that I know of) but what I do know is, if it looks bullshit, smells like bullshit, more times than not....its bullshit. It's a money grab. We're not going to die of "Global warming" anytime soon unless I overdose on Melatonin and a couple bottles of wine in August in my back yard in Palm Springs.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2016, 07:11:14 PM »
Boston had a pile of snow sitting in its harbor well into July of this year (man made).

Not a peep from anyone.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2016, 08:09:43 PM »
Coach go and do something with your life, where does it get you posting about politics on a fucking internet forum all the time? Your a fucking loser, i bet you molest little boys in your spare time you sick piece of shit.

fuck you


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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2016, 08:10:05 PM »
Oh stop. I'm not a climate scientist and neither is anyone on here (that I know of) but what I do know is, if it looks bullshit, smells like bullshit, more times than not....its bullshit. It's a money grab. We're not going to die of "Global warming" anytime soon unless I overdose on Melatonin and a couple bottles of wine in August in my back yard in Palm Springs.

No more Rancho mirage?

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2016, 08:42:45 PM »
No more Rancho mirage?

I never had a place in Rancho. I just said if Obama moved there it's too close to me.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2016, 09:03:27 PM »
I never had a place in Rancho. I just said if Obama moved there it's too close to me.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2016, 03:00:38 AM »
Oh stop.

You first.


I'm not a climate scientist and neither is anyone on here (that I know of)[...]

One doesn't need to be a climate scientist to grok the basics of the theory and examine the predictions the theory makes against the facts we're observing. The facts suggest - very strongly - that the climate is warming. That doesn't mean that winters can't be harsh or that they will only get milder, nor does it mean that Alaska will become the next hit tropical destination.


[...] but what I do know is, if it looks bullshit, smells like bullshit, more times than not....its bullshit.

People called bullshit when scientific theories did away with the concept of the luminuferous aether.
People called bullshit when Tesla proposed the brushless electric motor.
People called bullshit when George Zweig proposed quarks.

I could go on, but suffice it to say that people that were a whole lot smarter than you were fooled into thinking something was bullshit.

By the way, physicists keep asking for money to built bigger and bigger atom-smashing machines. Something about finding smaller and smaller particles. Sounds like bullshit too, doesn't it?


It's a money grab.

Perhaps, although it's unclear what motive climate scientists, in aggregate, have to publish bogus research. Are we supposed to believe that they're all of similar political persuasion and playing the long con, so that that, a few years down the line, the zeitgeist of the day will be such as to cause politicians to demand that factories install soot filters, people drive SMART cars, and our homes are powered by love? Really!?

So let's not worry about that. Let's just assume you're right, and this is, indeed, a money grab. Does that, somehow, imply that it is the theory of global warming itself that is incorrect?


We're not going to die of "Global warming" anytime soon unless I overdose on Melatonin and a couple bottles of wine in August in my back yard in Palm Springs.

How do you know we aren't going to die of "Global warming" anytime soon. You just told us you're not a climate scientist, and now you're proceeding to talk about the climate with inimitable certainty.

Look, nobody is saying that tomorrow we'll wake to find the average temperature to be a toasty 110 degrees. But the fact that the climate has been warming is not in dispute.

We can debate what the role, if any, humans play. We can debate whether all or part of the trend we are observing can be accounted for by the natural cycle of the climate. We can debate whether it may be good for us if it the average temperature was a little higher. We can debate whether we should all ride on those stupid electric skateboards. We can even debate whether to install catalysts in cows.

But we cannot debate facts and the facts are that there has been an observable, statistically significant warming trend in the earth's climate.

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2016, 05:59:52 AM »


But we cannot debate facts and the facts are that there has been an observable, statistically significant warming trend in the earth's climate. alteration of data that leads people to believe the earth is warming.

Fixed broskie. 

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2016, 10:15:56 AM »
1. Last time I changed accounts was eight years ago, Two years after Gore said were all going die.

2. Are we dead yet? No, are we a lighter in the wallet because of the "Global Warming" (or is climate change?) yes. Does this mean I am dismissing science? Depends on where you get your info from. If you don't agree with the lefts "science" then I guess that means all science other than that, is dismissed. No matter what science says, again, NOTHING will happen in the next five lifetimes. It's all bullshit and a moot point.

Al called me and was troubled that the earth seemed cooler.
I told him to stop sticking his head in the freezer.
He complied and requested I promote more human farting along with the cows, to warm things up

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2016, 10:50:38 AM »
It was freezing here for most of last week, but now it is warming up.  ;D

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2016, 07:13:41 PM »
How many ice ages have been documented? Multiple. What usually precedes an ice age? A warming/heating of the earth temperatures. The earth's climates have a self regulating mechanism that prevents it from straying too far either way. So, in essence, if there really is going to be global warming, judging by what has happened in the past, this period of increased overall temperatures WILL be followed by a similar cooling off period. And if the retraction is severe enough, it will bring about another ice age.

See, the reason I posted the picture of the mounds of snow in Boston harbor is because most folks have no idea HOW FUCKING DIFFICULT is to get rid of ice. In order for a mini ice-age to get going all it takes is back to back high snowfall winters coupled with relatively cool summers. A few years back, the passes around Mt Rainier had to be closed due to the amount of snow accumulated during the winter. The snow layer was stacked so high than even by mid summer it was still 10 feet tall. By the end of the summer, most of the snow was gone, but had it survived the summer, and had the following winter been another snowmageddon, it could've seriously affected the regions climate, bringing it down a few degrees and, most likely kick-starting a localized mini-ice age. And it does spread.  

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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2016, 07:17:27 PM »
By the way, this was Chinook pass in July of 2011:


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Re: Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling
« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2016, 07:58:18 AM »
1. Last time I changed accounts was eight years ago, Two years after Gore said were all going die.

2. Are we dead yet? No, are we a lighter in the wallet because of the "Global Warming" (or is climate change?) yes. Does this mean I am dismissing science? Depends on where you get your info from. If you don't agree with the lefts "science" then I guess that means all science other than that, is dismissed. No matter what science says, again, NOTHING will happen in the next five lifetimes. It's all bullshit and a moot point.

1. you still melted and said you weren't coming back like a crybaby narcissist. Al Gore is a politician, again why are you confusing opinion and fact?

2. No, we won't die from it, that's not the point though. There is no left/right science, this is your issue. You only think of things in terms of politics, life isn't like this. There are actually people who think for themselves, are honest, persistent and care about truth above all else. Things are already happening, the coldness in the north is from ice melting in the artic. We are in the 6th mass extinction event on earth, many species are dying rapidly from what we are doing. It appears you only care about yourself and your ilk.