Did Obama pardon Killary?

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If not, she's a done deal. Trump has nothing to do whether she there is an indictment or not but since Obama didn't pardon her, her life will be a living hell wondering either how long she'll be in prison or if guilty of treason, the death penalty. The latter won't happen but life in prison is more of a possibility.

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If not, she's a done deal. Trump has nothing to do whether she there is an indictment or not but since Obama didn't pardon her, her life will be a living hell wondering either how long she'll be in prison or if guilty of treason, the death penalty. The latter won't happen but life in prison is more of a possibility.

LOL! Dreamer.

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LOL! Dreamer.

Bet me

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Bet me

Time will tell. No reason for you to lose your hard earned money on trivia.

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HAHAHA this moron spent Christmas Day pondering delusional fantasies like this.

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HAHAHA this moron spent Christmas Day pondering delusional fantasies like this.

Weren't you the one that said along time ago that Bengahzi was over? Done? Or whatever delusional thought you had that day?

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Weren't you the one that said along time ago that Bengahzi was over? Done? Or whatever delusional thought you had that day?

No he was the one who said the Republican party is dead and that Hillary would destroy the Republican nominee.  

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Weren't you the one that said along time ago that Bengahzi was over? Done? Or whatever delusional thought you had that day?

No, that was the Republicans who cleared her of wrong doing.  Maybe on the next hearing or 12th, it may have an outcome that resonates with the fantasy land you live in.

No he was the one who said the Republican party is dead and that Hillary would destroy the Republican nominee.  

I - and others - thought she would.  But he was too much of an alpha male for her.  Got to love the way he shit kicked every other GOP candidate running and now they are back licking his ass for scraps.  

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No, that was the Republicans who cleared her of wrong doing.  Maybe on the next hearing or 12th, it may have an outcome that resonates with the fantasy land you live in.

I - and others - thought she would.  But he was too much of an alpha male for her.  Got to love the way he shit kicked every other GOP candidate running and now they are back licking his ass for scraps. 

She wasn't cleared of shit and you can post all the articals and news stories you want, here's the main reason why this will keep going until her ass is in prison as well as everyone that covered for her.

And don't forget Wikileaks

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No, that was the Republicans who cleared her of wrong doing.  Maybe on the next hearing or 12th, it may have an outcome that resonates with the fantasy land you live in.

I - and others - thought she would.  But he was too much of an alpha male for her.  Got to love the way he shit kicked every other GOP candidate running and now they are back licking his ass for scraps.  

I considered Clinton the favorite too, but you took it a step further and ridiculed people who believed any Republican candidate would even be competitive.  You've been pretty wrong about the political landscape for quite a while.  

Do you still believe the Republican Party is dead?    

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He will have to pardon her. Same thing as pardoning himself as he was aware of all issues and was an active party in them.

Plus I doubt - after that recount and Russian interference nonsense - that Trump is interested in doing it.

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I considered Clinton the favorite too, but you took it a step further and ridiculed people who believed any Republican candidate would even be competitive.  You've been pretty wrong about the political landscape for quite a while.  

Do you still believe the Republican Party is dead?    

HAHAHA yeah right.  Your picks are what? 0-42 or something?  Carson making an impact?  Rubio doing well?  You really don't want to go down that road.

Yes, the Republican party is dead.  It is now the Party Of Trump.  Which isn't a bad thing.  He shit on every one of the other candidates running and now they are kissing his ass.  Just like you will.  Despite claiming to vote third party, you will be fighting for real estate on Trump's ball sac too.

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She wasn't cleared of shit and you can post all the articals and news stories you want, here's the main reason why this will keep going until her ass is in prison as well as everyone that covered for her.

And don't forget Wikileaks

If she wasn't cleared, why hasn't she been indicted then?  Oh that's right... the Republican House Committee did clear her.  But if you want to keep going, that's fine.  Whatever calms the little man rage syndrome in you.  But out of curiosity, how long does it have to go until she is charged?  10 investigations?  19?  42? 

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If she wasn't cleared, why hasn't she been indicted then?  Oh that's right... the Republican House Committee did clear her.  But if you want to keep going, that's fine.  Whatever calms the little man rage syndrome in you.  But out of curiosity, how long does it have to go until she is charged?  10 investigations?  19?  42?  

I'm dead serious here and not trying to be a dick, but you really don't keep up on much do you? Or do you just choose to ignore what has already been stated as facts. Son, this is loooooooooong from being over. Now, that being said, go do some research.

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If she wasn't cleared, why hasn't she been indicted then?  Oh that's right... the Republican House Committee did clear her.  But if you want to keep going, that's fine.  Whatever calms the little man rage syndrome in you.  But out of curiosity, how long does it have to go until she is charged?  10 investigations?  19?  42?  

My guess is that Trump will be charged with something before HRC is. He tried to dump his foundation the other day, but that plan was quickly called into question by the New York Attorney General's Office, which said in a tweet that the foundation cannot be dissolved until the AG's investigation into it is completed.

"It would be wise for the plaintiffs, for the defendants, to look closely at trying to resolve this case given all else that's involved," Curiel told lawyers. Trump's attorneys said it may be necessary for the president-elect to settle.

If both sides decide to move forward with the trial, Trump will have to reckon every revelation that arose throughout his campaign, including his "alleged sexual misconduct, his taxes and corporate bankruptcies ... [his] speeches and tweets" — which his attorneys tried to argue were irrelevant to the Trump University case.

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I'm dead serious here and not trying to be a dick, but you really don't keep up on much do you? Or do you just choose to ignore what has already been stated as facts. Son, this is loooooooooong from being over. Now, that being said, go do some research.

So in other words, when the Republican House Committee cleared her, they didn't know what they were doing.  Is that correct?  Sounds par for course.


Again, which investigation will see her charged with something?  59th?  103rd?

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HAHAHA yeah right.  Your picks are what? 0-42 or something?  Carson making an impact?  Rubio doing well?  You really don't want to go down that road.

Yes, the Republican party is dead.  It is now the Party Of Trump.  Which isn't a bad thing.  He shit on every one of the other candidates running and now they are kissing his ass.  Just like you will.  Despite claiming to vote third party, you will be fighting for real estate on Trump's ball sac too.

Yes, let's go down that road.  I haven't made a whole lot of predictions.  I talk about who I think will be the favorite, who will perform well, and who I like.  Those are just opinions.  Sometimes, right, sometimes wrong.  Now if you want to quote me, feel free, but stop making stuff up. 

I'm not surprised you still believe the Republican Party is dead.  Extreme partisanship clouds people's judgment.  You sound like Nancy Pelosi. 

The Republican Party won the White House, the Senate, the House, the majority of state governorships, and majority of state legislatures.  From a recent article:  "The Democratic Party suffered huge losses at every level during Obama’s West Wing tenure.  The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency."

Anyone saying the party is dead in the face of these facts is delusional.   

 

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Yes, let's go down that road.  I haven't made a whole lot of predictions.  I talk about who I think will be the favorite, who will perform well, and who I like.  Those are just opinions.  Sometimes, right, sometimes wrong.  Now if you want to quote me, feel free, but stop making stuff up. 

I'm not surprised you still believe the Republican Party is dead.  Extreme partisanship clouds people's judgment.  You sound like Nancy Pelosi. 

The Republican Party won the White House, the Senate, the House, the majority of state governorships, and majority of state legislatures.  From a recent article:  "The Democratic Party suffered huge losses at every level during Obama’s West Wing tenure.  The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency."

Anyone saying the party is dead in the face of these facts is delusional.   

None of which ever come through.  You are quite the barometer for predictions.   Provided the observer looks in the opposite direction of your choice. 

You predicted Trump wouldn't have an impact.   You predicted Trump would not be the nominee.   Now here you are lapping away at his heels just like the rest of ones he shit on and came back for more.
 
Hell, even in the light of facts you still cling to past predictions....  Obama's win was a close toss up?

 

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None of which ever come through.  You are quite the barometer for predictions.   Provided the observer looks in the opposite direction of your choice. 

You predicted Trump wouldn't have an impact.   You predicted Trump would not be the nominee.   Now here you are lapping away at his heels just like the rest of ones he shit on and came back for more.
 
Hell, even in the light of facts you still cling to past predictions....  Obama's win was a close toss up?

 

I don't make many predictions, but you struggle with telling the truth sometimes.  Or perhaps you could quote me?   

I went beyond saying Trump wouldn't have an impact.  I mocked him.  Thought his candidacy was a joke.  Right up until he the won the nomination and proved everyone wrong.  At that point, I still thought Hillary was the favorite, but gave Trump a chance to win.  But now?  I am absolutely hoping he is successful and does good things for the country.  I'll have an open mind about him until he proves to me that he is a lousy leader like President Obama.  That's what a happens when you love your country.     

But you saying the Republican Party is dead pretty much says it all.   

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I don't make many predictions, but you struggle with telling the truth sometimes.  Or perhaps you could quote me?   

I went beyond saying Trump wouldn't have an impact.  I mocked him.  Thought his candidacy was a joke.  Right up until he the won the nomination and proved everyone wrong.  At that point, I still thought Hillary was the favorite, but gave Trump a chance to win.  But now?  I am absolutely hoping he is successful and does good things for the country.  I'll have an open mind about him until he proves to me that he is a lousy leader like President Obama.  That's what a happens when you love your country.     

But you saying the Republican Party is dead pretty much says it all.   

 

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The Republican Party won the White House, the Senate, the House, the majority of state governorships, and majority of state legislatures.  From a recent article:  "The Democratic Party suffered huge losses at every level during Obama’s West Wing tenure.  The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency."

Anyone saying the party is dead in the face of these facts is delusional.   

Given the candidates for this past election, I've maintained each party needed to hit rock bottom, then get both of their collective shit together, rebuild, and give the public better choices next time.

If Trump had not won, I think it would have been pretty clear the Republican side had reached the bottom.  With the win, they still need to rebuild on the fly, because despite their victories everywhere, if they don't produce while having control of everything, they're going to get wiped clean next go-round.

If the Democrats had won, I thought they would just keep believing their own bullshit and stay their lousy course.  Now, they need to realize their faults and start clean, although I'm not confident they will based on the post election whining.

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I don't make many predictions, but you struggle with telling the truth sometimes.  Or perhaps you could quote me?   

I went beyond saying Trump wouldn't have an impact.  I mocked him.  Thought his candidacy was a joke.  Right up until he the won the nomination and proved everyone wrong.  At that point, I still thought Hillary was the favorite, but gave Trump a chance to win.  But now?  I am absolutely hoping he is successful and does good things for the country.  I'll have an open mind about him until he proves to me that he is a lousy leader like President Obama.  That's what a happens when you love your country.     

But you saying the Republican Party is dead pretty much says it all.   

Economists are now comparing Trump's policies (tax breaks for the rich) to Reaganomics. There are good and bad aspects to Reaganomics. The bad is that during during Reagan's presidency, the national debt grew from $997 billion to $2.85 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation. Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency. This added to the current debt will be a disaster. As of December 1, 2016, the official debt of the United States government is $19.9 trillion.

FYI:

As reported in January 2016

Since President Barack Obama first took office:
◾Homicides have dropped 13 percent, but gun sales have surged.
◾The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.
◾The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama, but it is still 761,000 higher than at the start of the Great Recession.
◾Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.
◾There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.
◾Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.
◾The federal debt has more than doubled — rising 116 percent — and big annual deficits have continued.

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Given the candidates for this past election, I've maintained each party needed to hit rock bottom, then get both of their collective shit together, rebuild, and give the public better choices next time.

If Trump had not won, I think it would have been pretty clear the Republican side had reached the bottom.  With the win, they still need to rebuild on the fly, because despite their victories everywhere, if they don't produce while having control of everything, they're going to get wiped clean next go-round.

If the Democrats had won, I thought they would just keep believing their own bullshit and stay their lousy course.  Now, they need to realize their faults and start clean, although I'm not confident they will based on the post election whining.

I agree both parties need to clean house.  Get rid of the old guard.  Getting rid of Harry Reid is a great start, but Democrats stuck with Nancy Pelosi and Keith Ellison is on the short list for DNC Chair.  That's just digging their hole even deeper. 

Republicans need to get rid of Mitch McConnell and several other old timers. 

That said, when you look at the landscape, you gotta be a pretty big hack, or just not very smart, to say the Republican Party is dead when it controls most of the country and when you look at the trend for the past ten years.  Not saying this is good or bad.  Just a fact. 

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....to say the Republican Party is dead when it controls most of the country and when you look at the trend for the past ten years.  Not saying this is good or bad.  Just a fact. 

If money is power and it is, you are absolutely right, Republican's control most of the country. According to an article in Forbes 56% of America's richest families are affiliated with the Republican Party.

One caveat: Some of these family fortunes are shared among dozens or even hundreds of people, so we were only able to track political donations of a subset of prominent members.

Here are the political affiliations of America’s 50 richest families, ranked according to wealth:

1. Walton – Republican

2. Koch – Republican

3. Mars – Republican

4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican

5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican

6.  Hearst – Republican

7. Cox – Democrat

8. Pritzker – Both

9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican

10. Duncan – Republican

11. Newhouse – Democrat

12. Lauder – Both

13. Du Pont – Republican

14. Hunt – Republican

15. Ziff – Both

16. Johnson (Franklin Templeton) – Republican

17. Busch – Both

18. Dorrance – Both

19. Mellon – Republican

20. Brown – Both

21. Carlson – Both

22. Fisher – Republican

23. Butt – Democrat

24. Rockefeller – Both

25. Gallo – Democrat

26. Marshall – Republican

27. Bass – Both

28. Meijer – Republican

29. Bechtel – Republican

29. Reyes – Republican

29. Simplot – Republican

32. Rales – Both

33. Rollins – Republican

34. Scripps – Republican

35. Crown – Both

36. Stryker – Democrat

37. Smith – Republican

38. Pigott – Republican

39. Shoen – Both

39. Simon – Democrat

41. Lefrak – Both

42. Hughes – Republican

42. Phipps – Republican

44. Kluge – Both

44. Tisch – Democrat

46. Johnson (Johnson & Johnson) – Republican

47. Marriott – Republican

48. Kohler – Republican

49. Perot – Both

50. Barbey – Republican

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Economists are now comparing Trump's policies (tax breaks for the rich) to Reaganomics. There are good and bad aspects to Reaganomics. The bad is that during during Reagan's presidency, the national debt grew from $997 billion to $2.85 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation. Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency. This added to the current debt will be a disaster. As of December 1, 2016, the official debt of the United States government is $19.9 trillion.

FYI:

As reported in January 2016

Since President Barack Obama first took office:
◾Homicides have dropped 13 percent, but gun sales have surged.
◾The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.
◾The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama, but it is still 761,000 higher than at the start of the Great Recession.
◾Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.
◾There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.
◾Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.
◾The federal debt has more than doubled — rising 116 percent — and big annual deficits have continued.

Your premise is false.  He hasn't proposed "tax breaks for the rich."  He has talked about cutting everyone's taxes.