Ultimate Orange was awesome but I never could stand the taste of it....not to mention that along with the enormous amount of pure ephedrine, it also contained about 300mg of caffeine . My first set of supplements that actually worked consisted of the GNC Bodybuilding Kit ( A Cybergenics Clone), GNC Ephedra Pills, and GNC Creatine Monohydrate. The ephedra pills kicked like a fucking mule so I was pretty wired up in the 90's.....lol.