Best aas to build your base without becomng a bloofy ball

[PizzaTrenSlin]

Tren is pretty mild on me.... Runned acetate ester for almost a year and my bloodworks were always OK.

What body do you think can someone with normal genetic can achieve with just 4iu HGH 500 TestE 500 TrenE 500 MastE for a year?


Changed title to what I would like to know.

[aintitgrand]

Tren is pretty mild on me.... Runned acetate ester for almost a year and my bloodworks were always OK.

What body do you think can someone with normal genetic can achieve with just 4iu HGH 500 TestE 500 TrenE 500 MastE for a year?

You ran tren year round and your bloods were fine? What about BP? I'd be skeptical of the quality of tren you're getting. I'd never advise anyone to run tren year round. Not at 500mg/wk, not at 100mg/wk.
500 test e/wk with GH is fine year round, as long as bloods and BP are under control. I'd cycle in tren here and there. As for mast, other than going bald, there are other problems such as prostate enlargement you should watch out for. Mast year round isn't a good idea either, should be cycled in and out. So maybe just test year round with tren and mast tossed in for 12 or 14 weeks, then take at least 6 weeks off, and toss it back in again.

[Dr.J]

It's all about the diet!

[Zillotch]

You're supposed to build ur 'base' naturally, and after you've maxed out naturally... then you introduce steroids at a low dose.

[canberk1188]

Everyone says tren tren tren.... YEAH tren make you lean shredded muscle ıf you able to eat 6000kcals a day .Tren is only good ıf you train very hard diet very hard then booom lean muscle. But If you take tren and sitting all day your sofa I will tell you what happen you will piss like a horse and lose 15 lbs of weight in cycle. TREN= CUTTİNG CUTTİNG CUTTİN HARDNESS HARDNESS HARDNESS -----

TREN= NO BULKİNG NO BULKİNG NO BULKİNG you need to eat too much for bulk on tren.

I only use tren when I am cutting.  For bulking 4grams of test deca coctail.

                                                For cutting 2grams of tren mast cocktail .

Tren is never for beginner wannabees. It can mess you up too bad. I remembering 2 years ago taking tren enanthate only I lost 8kg but I was like a greek god superman strenght. Extremly horny. Girls looking my face begining horny. It is a wonderfull drug but not for everyone!!

[canberk1188]

So last advice do 500mg boldenon with 500mg test will not too lean but still will be better than all that drol deca dbol

I always explained that there is a so much maturity difference between a guy who get down from 210 lbs hulk to 175 jason statham than a young wannabe who got up from 145 to 175 .. SOOO much difference I am saying. The shredded hulk will beat the hell out bulked 20 yeard tyler durden. So last word you cant get bigger without water.. The %80 part of muscle tissiue are full of WATER.

The muscular water retention is a very good thing the only problem is water retention in skin and fat tissiue.  Hold water in muscle you will be good hold water in skin tissiue you will be bad. END OF THE STORY

[PizzaTrenSlin]

So when you cut you don't use Test?

You just go for Tren and Mast and Test and Deca to blow up.. no orals nothing.... wonderful... 

Ofc diet will be the key... But on Test and Deca you won't have water between the skin? Or is that just a matter of diet?

[canberk1188]

Mate how long you have been using aas ? I think you dont know everything. No matter ıf you use test as a base or not you will be still shutdown very very hard. CAUSE you are takin high DOSES ..... Test will only save you from sexual health libido and shutdown ıf you are taking 400 deca 25 mg tren ace .))) like a 3 years old child dose take test with them it will save you cause the other drug doses are LOW.
 But If you take 1000mg tren with 2000mg test I will tel you what happen you will be a pornstar but you will shut down extremly hard and test wont save you ...

[canberk1188]

Test never stops shutdown. It will just give you fake superhigh libido . But when you come off everything you are GONE. You cant sleep with a chick for 4months  Thats the point. Steroids are lifestyle our spirit our god you must stand against side effect struggless ıf you love bodybuilding roids. And last thing If I have diagnosed with 4.stage cancer I will still use steroids even higher even very higher dose. Cause I will never let myself be a small man. Instead I will die with honourfull heart attack from steroids.  I will die with having fun with chicks with the force of testosterone. I will die when I am injecting 4grams test even I am ill.  They will say how this guy still has that greek muscles even though he is very illl.

[Christo]

Test never stops shutdown. It will just give you fake superhigh libido . But when you come off everything you are GONE. You cant sleep with a chick for 4months  Thats the point. Steroids are lifestyle our spirit our god you must stand against side effect struggless ıf you love bodybuilding roids. And last thing If I have diagnosed with 4.stage cancer I will still use steroids even higher even very higher dose. Cause I will never let myself be a small man. Instead I will die with honourfull heart attack from steroids.  I will die with having fun with chicks with the force of testosterone. I will die when I am injecting 4grams test even I am ill.  They will say how this guy still has that greek muscles even though he is very illl.

Yeaaah but if you have 4 stage cancer and youre using 4 gr test and you cannot train and eat because youre too ill, i think you will not gain 1 gr of muscle.

[Christo]

What do guys think using a little primo or mast to archieve better balance between oestrogeen/androgeen levels when using testosterone?

[chokeslam]

I guess threads like this will never cease, eh?

It doesn't matter what you take. What people should ask is if they're being honest with themselves and paying attention to their body. Biological feedback is much more important. If you puff up, see it for what it is and make the necessary adjustments.

The reason people can juice and look like shit is because they have their heads up their asses. And the reason why some guys look great is because they're listening to their body and doing things properly. In theory, it's not hard to get in shape. But in practice, the biggest mitigating factor is the person at the helm... it's not the drugs they're taking or not.

[PizzaTrenSlin]

I guess threads like this will never cease, eh?

It doesn't matter what you take. What people should ask is if they're being honest with themselves and paying attention to their body. Biological feedback is much more important. If you puff up, see it for what it is and make the necessary adjustments.

The reason people can juice and look like shit is because they have their heads up their asses. And the reason why some guys look great is because they're listening to their body and doing things properly. In theory, it's not hard to get in shape. But in practice, the biggest mitigating factor is the person at the helm... it's not the drugs they're taking or not.

Basically you are advocating bad diet.

[chokeslam]

Basically you are advocating bad diet.

lol what the fuck are you talking about?

[canberk1188]

If you are rich and want to be muscular and lean and want to use safest way. Here it is :

  500mg test
 
   
  600mg primo
 
 4iu gh                                  NOOOOOON STOOOOOP ......  and very healhty..

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

If you are rich and want to be muscular and lean and want to use safest way. Here it is :

  500mg test
 
   
  600mg primo
 
 4iu gh                                  NOOOOOON STOOOOOP ......  and very healhty..

yeah, man. thats my stack! but i run 300 mg test 600 mg primo nad 4.5 genos.

[Disco187]

lol this is exactly what took me a while to figure out/ seamed like every time i was using gear i was always spilled over except when i would do tren and super low test cycles.

but my freakiest was
4ius growth (generic) per day
750 mgs test sustan
400mg masteron (would of done a bit more but wallet issues)
t3 i think it was 30micros a day
winstrol 50 to 100 mgs a day (kinda what ever i felt like taking)
100mg every day tren acetate
i prob toke about 2 letros a wk
this was a clean look
Ive used higher dosages but just did not work for me. (everybodys diff)  i was in the upper 250s but a ugly upper 250s.  I like the sharp crisp look.

[PizzaTrenSlin]

Mmmh i don't work good with high Test but with all that DHTs...

750 Sust
700 TrenA
500 MastP
350 Winstrol
T3 25mcg
4iu HGH

Wow in this case I think one can control test....