Dorian Yates Blood and Guts 6 week challenge

[dj181]

why are you in the gym 45 minutes if you are only doing one set per exercise?

How many fucking exercises are you doing?
Given a 5-10 minute warm up what the fuck are you doing for 35 minutes?

I'm in the gym bout 90 minutes and I hit 2 exercises generally, my exercises of choice now are close grip bench, power clean, half squats

[Trev]

This routine probably works better than most:

Bodybuilding/fitness and diet is full of bullshit  -  I trained using various standard bodybuilding routines for 30 years BUT made by far my best gains after the age of 40 when I backed off! - I hit half the body hard on Saturday and half on Sunday then NOTHING all week. I am sore until Weds and then Thurs & Fri are where fibres finally recover ready for Saturday again.

Common sense really when you think how long it takes for your body to repair a bruise or small cut. Same process of repairing damaged fibres.

If you are not natural then yeah you can probably train more frequently but I have too much to do to train more. I'm 16st in the winter then get lean enough to show cuts / abs / veins etc at 15st for the summer so plenty big enough.

TRY IT CHAPS ....

[ratherbebig]

Why don't you just do a full body routine 3 days per week.  Just do big compounds.  Squat, dead, bench press, overhead press, rows etc.  Do like 5x5 or 3x8 progressive.  If you really want, throw in few isolations like curls or whatever.  This type of program is proven.  Go for a jog or walk on a few of your off days.  You already know how to eat from your competetive days.  You'll be thong ready in no time :-)

fullbody x3 is too hard for most, its nearly too hard for me and im very hard!

[Danjo]

Everybody (not just Howie) needs Dorian-videos to accomplish and do things.

Arnold would never have been Governor without a Dorian-video, there would be no NASA without a Dorian-video, Titanic would never have sunk without a Dorian-video.

The wheel? You got it, a Dorian-video demonstrating how to shape it.

Everybody needs a Dorian-video in their life.

Howard stop the trolling you and I both know that you wont do anything apart from getting up to eat burger fries and ice cream.

LOL

[Howard]

Why don't you just do a full body routine 3 days per week.  Just do big compounds.  Squat, dead, bench press, overhead press, rows etc.  Do like 5x5 or 3x8 progressive.  If you really want, throw in few isolations like curls or whatever.  This type of program is proven.  Go for a jog or walk on a few of your off days.  You already know how to eat from your competetive days.  You'll be thong ready in no time :-)

Good idea, except my old joints won't permit  heavy basic lifts with a barbell in that rep range.

When I first started competing, the  3 day week high intensity , full body routines were popular.
For example, for delts you did 1 set 10 reps strict of side laterals superset/pre-exhaust with 1 set of overhead presses.

[Howard]

This routine probably works better than most:

Bodybuilding/fitness and diet is full of bullshit  -  I trained using various standard bodybuilding routines for 30 years BUT made by far my best gains after the age of 40 when I backed off! - I hit half the body hard on Saturday and half on Sunday then NOTHING all week. I am sore until Weds and then Thurs & Fri are where fibres finally recover ready for Saturday again.

Common sense really when you think how long it takes for your body to repair a bruise or small cut. Same process of repairing damaged fibres.

If you are not natural then yeah you can probably train more frequently but I have too much to do to train more. I'm 16st in the winter then get lean enough to show cuts / abs / veins etc at 15st for the summer so plenty big enough.

TRY IT CHAPS ....

Excellent post!

During my last year of competing I used a 3 day week , HIT routine because I was teaching and coaching.
I trained a body part once per week : legs/ back bis /chest, delts, tris .
It was an old school routine first called " Rotation for recuperation" promoted by Frank Calta an AAU Mr Florida in the 1970's.

I was natural then and doing that 40 min HIT 3x week routine plus 3 hard 2-3 miles run, plus a 2000 kcal diet,  I got shredded.

[dj181]

Excellent post!

During my last year of competing I used a 3 day week , HIT routine because I was teaching and coaching.
I trained a body part once per week : legs/ back bis /chest, delts, tris .
It was an old school routine first called " Rotation for recuperation" promoted by Frank Calta an AAU Mr Florida in the 1970's.

I was natural then and doing that 40 min HIT 3x week routine plus 3 hard 2-3 miles run, plus a 2000 kcal diet,  I got shredded.

thats Mike Mentzers 1st heavy duty routine, the one he actually used himself, except he split the body 2 ways not 3

[Howard]

thats Mike Mentzers 1st heavy duty routine, the one he actually used himself, except he split the body 2 ways not 3

Yup, the ol' heavy duty routine

He did:

Day 1 chest, tris and legs
Day 2  back, bis , delts and abs.

In 1979, I ordered his actual "Heavy Duty" training manual, which was a 5"x7" , 8 page booklet.
That was the most effective contest prep routine I ever used.

[8 INCH not biceps]

why are you in the gym 45 minutes if you are only doing one set per exercise?

How many fucking exercises are you doing?
Given a 5-10 minute warm up what the fuck are you doing for 35 minutes?

Because I do a very long warm up, I use to come into the gym do a 5 min warm up and I got injured a few years back on deadlifts because my joints were still tight now I do stretching, abs and lower back before lifting and I no longer have any problems.

[ratherbebig]

or you could just stop deadlifting

[Howard]

or you could just stop deadlifting

That's like asking me to stop posting on getbig.
Some folks  NEED to do certain things, even when everyone says they should stop 

[8 INCH not biceps]

or you could just stop deadlifting

How dare you, tell me to stop have sex, embrace feminism, go to sweden and welcome all the refugees but dont ever tell me to stop deadlifting. 

[ratherbebig]

so when are you starting howard

you must set a date unless you have already and ive missed it

[Howard]

so when are you starting howard

you must set a date unless you have already and ive missed it

Like my success at hitting a baseball, you missed it.

I started yesterday with delts , tris and abs  with 40 min cardio. ( wed workout)
Today, I'm doing legs and no cardio.

Oh, I plan to drop a major deuce in stall 3 today to cap off my leg work.
 I  work my entire lower body from ankle to asshole.

[ratherbebig]

where is your training journal  

[Simple Simon]

Because I do a very long warm up, I use to come into the gym do a 5 min warm up and I got injured a few years back on deadlifts because my joints were still tight now I do stretching, abs and lower back before lifting and I no longer have any problems.

I never deadlift, its a stupid exercise.

[Howard]

where is your training journal  

huh? I didn't really think anyone would be interested in my specific training?  100% serious.
I  also started a diet log/journal on a word file I keep on my lap top.

[dj181]

I never deadlift, its a stupid exercise.

Power Clean>>>>>>>deadlift

of course you aren't an athlete so it means fuck all in your case chief

[8 INCH not biceps]

I never deadlift, its a stupid exercise.

Deadlifting is one of the best exercises for overall mass and strength, look at it this way if one guy goes to the gym and only deadlifts for 6 months and the other guy only uses a lower back machine for 6 months who would be bigger and stronger at the end.

[local hero]

Power Clean>>>>>>>deadlift

of course you aren't an athlete so it means fuck all in your case chief

 ....

[Simple Simon]

Deadlifting is one of the best exercises for overall mass and strength, look at it this way if one guy goes to the gym and only deadlifts for 6 months and the other guy only uses a lower back machine for 6 months who would be bigger and stronger at the end.

fuckwit

lets say he deadlifts with just a bar or uses a low back machine with high intensity
Now, who will have the bigger and stronger low back?

[Howard]

fuckwit

lets say he deadlifts with just a bar or uses a low back machine with high intensity
Now, who will have the bigger and stronger low back?

Big Ronnie Coleman did deadlifts on a regular basis when he was Mr O.
Grandpa Farty-pants uses the gym low back machine to help keep his lumbago in check.

Tough call on who has the better back?

[ratherbebig]

deadlifts is too much work just getting started. dont have time for that shit. i'd like to get home from the gym before they close if possible.

[Howard]

Because I do a very long warm up, I use to come into the gym do a 5 min warm up and I got injured a few years back on deadlifts because my joints were still tight now I do stretching, abs and lower back before lifting and I no longer have any problems.

On a serious note, most bodybuilders don't do enough warming up.

Compare the avg bodybuilder  to any serious powerlifter or sprinter's warm up routine.
Always impresses me how much most pro athletes need to warm up before the game.

OK, serious question/concern for you and anyone else that can offer a serious reply.

I can already see , without a future contest to shoot for , my intensity and desire will fade.
Hmmm, I wish  I could be motivated to train WITHOUT  competing, but it's not happening.

I'm a long way from contest condition, but 8 months of serious diet and training would change that.

Suggestions?

[illuminati]

Excellent post!

During my last year of competing I used a 3 day week , HIT routine because I was teaching and coaching.
I trained a body part once per week : legs/ back bis /chest, delts, tris .
It was an old school routine first called " Rotation for recuperation" promoted by Frank Calta an AAU Mr Florida in the 1970's.

I was natural then and doing that 40 min HIT 3x week routine plus 3 hard 2-3 miles run, plus a 2000 kcal diet,  I got shredded.

Why not use this routine now.
Just adjust sets / reps / weights.