GUNTER dismantling Ronnie 2002 GNC!

[Nether Animal]

Looking back at this, not only was Ronnie off, Gunter was just fucking ON in 2002. So much so that he never managed to recapture the same look, despite Weider and the powers that be grooming him as the next big white man.

[Nether Animal]

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[Simple Simon]

the damage Ronnie did with that lat tear was very obvious there

[Nether Animal]

Is the "back injury" he always referred to an actual lat tear? Or is it atrophy due to nerve damage?

[8 INCH not biceps]

Is the "back injury" he always referred to an actual lat tear? Or is it atrophy due to nerve damage?

Nerve damage, he had nerve damage in his lats and arms and the back injury was in his lower back, ronnie literally fell apart from the hardcore training that is why he now walks with a cane.

[wes]

Guntherr deserved that win in a big way.........looked great there.

[light weight baby]

RDC NUMERO UNO!!!!!iiiiiiiiiiiii

[Royalty]

Striated glutes on both Ronnie and Gunter. Those two have to be the only dudes that can weigh around 300 and still have striations. Impressive leaness on both guys.

[light weight baby]

Striated glutes on both Ronnie and Gunter. Those two have to be the only dudes that can weigh around 300 and still have striations. Impressive leaness on both guys.

not even close to 300

wake up

[Royalty]

not even close to 300

wake up

I believe that Gunter was 295-300 at that show.

And Ronnie has weighed close to 300 a few times. And he nearly always had glute striations.

[Bevo]

I believe that Gunter was 295-300 at that show.

And Ronnie has weighed close to 300 a few times. And he nearly always had glute striations.

No where close esp in 2002

[Royalty]

No where close esp in 2002

Ronnie in 2003 was like 290 or so. And he had striations in the glutes.


My point was that guys like Gunter & Ronnie were rare. Really high body weights and very ripped as well.

[Simple Simon]

Ronnie in 2003 was like 290 or so. And he had striations in the glutes.


My point was that guys like Gunter & Ronnie were rare. Really high body weights and very ripped as well.

it says 258 on the video

[jude2]

I was at that show. Won a couple of bets because no one believed me that Gunter was going to win.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie in 2003 was like 290 or so. And he had striations in the glutes.


My point was that guys like Gunter & Ronnie were rare. Really high body weights and very ripped as well.

He was 287lbs in 2003

[tres_taco_combo]

Nerve damage, he had nerve damage in his lats and arms and the back injury was in his lower back, ronnie literally fell apart from the hardcore training that is why he now walks with a cane.

dang

sounds like an NFL running back life after the league

[Fallsview]

I was there!!!!! Really, the crowd still loved Ronnie. Looking at them both from the crowd you really couldn't tell a big difference. Looking at the photos....huge difference. Which leads me to the question, how can judges tell the difference when I was in the crowd and couldn't? In fact, people sitting around me were saying the same thing as Ronnie had that aura about him. IDK, looking back now and seeing the photos, I can see Ronnie won.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hulkster]

in those shots Ronnie is killing him. hell, he even wins the ab and thigh shot. look at Gunter's taper in the post -its non existant.

when you can't even beat Ronnie in the ab and thigh shot, you know you are fucked in all the others and will lose.

which is exactly what happened. and rightfully so. beating gunter from the front, killing him from the back.

[Danimal77]

not even close to 300

wake up

Gunther WAS 300 pounds onstage that competition. Light for Gunther was 290 pounds. Remember, he was 6'0.5" tall (legit). Ronnie weighed 249 pounds in 2002.

[Danimal77]

Ronnie in 2003 was like 290 or so. And he had striations in the glutes.


My point was that guys like Gunter & Ronnie were rare. Really high body weights and very ripped as well.

Ronnie was 287 in 2003 and 296 in 2004 on a 5'10" (legit) frame at that time. He's lost serious height since the back/hip surgeries.

[Matt]

I need to defend Royalty here.

I don't think he was speaking about specific contests for Ronnie.  Gunter was customarily around 300-lb.  He was 285-lb as far back as the 2000 Mr. Olympia, and even going back before then, he must have been 275 or 280.  Maybe in 1994 he was 260.

As far as Olympia showings go, Gunter was 295 in 2002, and 300 in 2005.  Ronnie was 287 in 2003 and 296 in 2004.  Someone from Getbig - could have been Hulkster - asked Ronnie via e-mail in 2004 what his weight was at the British Grand Prix.  It was something ridiculous like 304.  I would have remembered it if it was 305 or more.  It was either 302 or 304.  At least that is what Ronnie claimed.

Gunter himself stated that he was 6'1.5" in the BFTO 2000 VHS/DVD.  Ronnie Coleman was often pegged at 5'11, but I think that was rounded up from 5'10.5".  However, he is not that height today.  I would be surprised if he was 5'10 barefoot today, but I am 5'8.5" and have been around pros many times, and it has been my observation that while some of them have lied about their weight before - Dexter Jackson being 235, but skipping every Ironman weigh-in, lolz - pros rarely lie about their height.

I also have big hair and wear a shoe with a nice sole so that I look more like 5'9.5" in public, so I judge the height of pros based on that height.  Ronnie appeared to be around that height or a bit taller in the years I saw him (2007 to 2014).  Gunter was and probably still is just under 6'2.

And to Royalty's point - yes, both competed around or at 300-lb at different contests in their career.  At the 2004 Mr. Olympia, Ronnie was 296-lb, and Gunter was at least that.

[Simple Simon]

He was 287lbs in 2003

so thats 45lb heavier than Lee Haney ever was?

[Matt]

so thats 45lb heavier than Lee Haney ever was?

I'm fairly sure that I read that Dorian had a "record" of being the heaviest pro bodybuilder on stage at one point, at 257-lb.  It must have been a record from a very narrow window - maybe 1992 - because Lou Ferrigno would have been much heavier in 1993 - I believe 318.

So Ronnie was was indeed 45-lb heavier than prime Dorian, but not the 242 to 287 comparison you are making.  Probably 257 compared to 302 in 2004 for Ronnie.

So yes - that 45-lb figure is accurate.

[light weight baby]

so thats 45lb heavier than Lee Haney ever was?

dont bother arguing with these morans

[Mobil]

Both looked great..d their backs and everything else was striated..compared to now..no more muscles anymore...just oil and insulin and tbey allhave fat faces...no more chizled alpha jaw lines ..ronnie always had a lean face no matter how much he bulked up in the offseason...lucky bastard..my face gets fat as fuk and I loose my looks