Just to show you where genetic's and natural shape make a good bber foremost,saw vinny in 91 new jersey a big show every year ran well and lot's off top bber's around and future ones.anyway vinny competed as mdwght at like 169 and when i tell you when the class came out at prejudge all you can see is how he stood out ,iwas their to root for a fellow gym buddy who was in that class and new right away vinnt would take it,also i think rob russo was also in the class he had huge leg's good build.Vinny had great potential alway's just need to grow into each class without losing what got you their .He is an example on how not to ruin your build just stick to your guns.