Milo Yiannopolous

[SF1900]

I don't mind a republican/conservative giving a speech on a college/university campus.

However, Milos appears (maybe he's not) to be more of a troll, comedian, and shit stirrer when compared to someone who truly wants to lecture. I don't agree with him giving a speech, not because he's a republican/conservative, but because he's more of a troll than anything else. At least invite a republican/conservative who wants to give a serious lecture.

[mazrim]

I don't mind a republican/conservative giving a speech on a college/university campus.

However, Milos appears (maybe he's not) to be more of a troll, comedian, and shit stirrer when compared to someone who truly wants to lecture. I don't agree with him giving a speech, not because he's a republican/conservative, but because he's more of a troll than anything else. At least invite a republican/conservative who wants to give a serious lecture.

Have you seen any? There are complete videos online of his college lectures. He is good. He does talk a lot of junk but 80% of what he says is spot on serious stuff. I can do without some of the more crude comments but no idea why liberals can't handle it since they can say whatever they want. He entertains while making valid points.

[Super Natural]

I don't mind a republican/conservative giving a speech on a college/university campus.

However, Milos appears (maybe he's not) to be more of a troll, comedian, and shit stirrer when compared to someone who truly wants to lecture. I don't agree with him giving a speech, not because he's a republican/conservative, but because he's more of a troll than anything else. At least invite a republican/conservative who wants to give a serious lecture.

I thought you liberals are for diversity?

[SF1900]

Have you seen any? There are complete videos online of his college lectures. He is good. He does talk a lot of junk but 80% of what he says is spot on serious stuff. I can do without some of the more crude comments but no idea why liberals can't handle it since they can say whatever they want. He entertains while making valid points.

Yes, Ive seen some of his videos, and once he starts with the shit stirring/trolling, I turn it off.

Ive been to tons of lectures in my field and there is ZERO trolling. People who are invited to give a lecture should avoid talking junk. I can't image attending a lecture and the lecturer trolling the audience--is this 7th grade? 

I don't agree with anyone saying whatever they want during a professional lecture. If Milos wants to troll social media, that's fine. A professional lecture? No. Stick to whatever evidence/content you're presenting in a serious manner. The crude comments should not be allowed in any professional lecture (dem or repubs), either from the person giving the lecture or the people attending.

[mazrim]

The Christian Right doesn't know wtf to do with this guy.

I would speculate that most are fine with this guy. He's against murdering babies and gay marriage/agenda.

[SuperTed]

I don't mind a republican/conservative giving a speech on a college/university campus.

However, Milos appears (maybe he's not) to be more of a troll, comedian, and shit stirrer when compared to someone who truly wants to lecture. I don't agree with him giving a speech, not because he's a republican/conservative, but because he's more of a troll than anything else. At least invite a republican/conservative who wants to give a serious lecture.

He is a wind up merchant. However, I think his opinions, even if they were said in a more serious and less trolling manner, would still cause controversy since most universities tend to be very left-leaning.

[milone79]

as long as he keeps melting the little fucking snowflakes of generation nothingness I like this guy!!!

[SilverSpoon]

There is nothing wrong with having faith in Christ.  It is what you do with that faith, how you live it that matters.  And just what do you mean by "inclusion"?  I don't want to include islam or pedos and transjenners or any other brand of leftist deviant, do you?  Fuck inclusion.  Parties like the democraps pander to perverts so you are saying Republicans should too?   I have zero desire in hearing about what you do in your bedroom or public restroom.  FTN.

The rest I agree with. 

1)  There is nothing wrong with having a faith in Christ, or any religion for that matter.  However, it should not permeate our State.  Radical Islamic Terrorism has no place in our country, or any legitimate political party. 
Pedos are commiting illegal activity and therefore have no place in any legitimate party.
Pandering to any single group should not be tolerated. 
I am for pure equal rights for all (that are law abiding U.S. citizens).
I am not for "special" rights, as that only fractures our society.

[SF1900]

I thought you liberals are for diversity?

 

[SF1900]

He is a wind up merchant. However, I think his opinions, even if they were said in a more serious and less trolling manner, would still cause controversy since most universities tend to be very left-leaning.

Agreed. However, delivery, to a great extent, is everything. He has a much better chance of reaching the audience with a serious tone, as opposed to a trolling tone.

[The Ugly]

There is nothing wrong with having faith in Christ.  It is what you do with that faith, how you live it that matters.  And just what do you mean by "inclusion"?  I don't want to include islam or pedos and transjenners or any other brand of leftist deviant, do you?  Fuck inclusion.  Parties like the democraps pander to perverts so you are saying Republicans should too?   I have zero desire in hearing about what you do in your bedroom or public restroom.  FTN.

The rest I agree with. 

INCLUDING like-minded fiscal conservatives, who don't want social policy dictated by a buncha ignorant, superstitious Fundies. Because they embrace small government/personal liberty (remember those?), you self-righteous cliche.

[bigkid]

He has a much better chance of reaching the audience with a serious tone, as opposed to a trolling tone.

Yes, an extremely small audience.

[SF1900]

Yes, an extremely small audience.

Some audience is better than no audience at all or just shit stirring.

[bigkid]

Some audience is better than no audience at all or just shit stirring.

His audience is huge and growing by the second. 

[SF1900]

His audience is huge and growing by the second. 

 

What are you talking about?  Im primarily talking about his presence on college campuses/universities and the backlash he receives when giving a lecture. I am addressing solely that issue. I don't have a clue what you're talking about.  I don't know what type of audience he has outside of what I am discussing.

[bigkid]

What are you talking about?  Im primarily talking about his presence on college campuses/universities and the backlash he receives when giving a lecture. I am addressing solely that issue. I don't have a clue what you're talking about.  I don't know what type of audience he has outside of what I am discussing.

What are you talking about?  You're saying he could reach more people if he just lectured facts straightforward. Which is one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile.  His audience is huge, growing and the reason people fill up venues to see him is because of his delivery and style.

[SF1900]

What are you talking about?  You're saying he could reach more people if he just lectured facts straightforward. Which is one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile.  His audience is huge, growing and the reason people fill up venues to see him is because of his delivery and style.

Yes, more people. The fact still remains that he is receives a huge backlash on many campuses. Perhaps people would be more amenable to hear him speak if he left the trolling aside. Further, how many people are really taking away a serious message from him?  Or, how many people are just attending for comedic purposes? As I said in my initial statement, all formal lectures should be of a serious tone, independent of numbers. Pure numbers alone doesn't mean people are learning. And, isn't that the purpose of attending a lecture? In general, crude and trolling comments should be left out of a formal lecture on both sides (audience and lecturer). I said this even before we started to talk about the actual size of his audience.

[Yamcha]

the backlash is privately funded.

[Hypertrophy]

Yes, more people. The fact still remains that he is receives a huge backlash on many campuses. Perhaps people would be more amenable to hear him speak if he left the trolling aside. Further, how many people are really taking away a serious message from him?  Or, how many people are just attending for comedic purposes? As I said in my initial statement, all formal lectures should be of a serious tone, independent of numbers. Pure numbers alone doesn't mean people are learning. And, isn't that the purpose of attending a lecture? In general, crude and trolling comments should be left out of a formal lecture on both sides (audience and lecturer). I said this even before we started to talk about the actual size of his audience.

Please SF- lay off the "If he just did this it would be OK" bullshit. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech. You don't like the message, don't attend or don't listen. You embody the classic Orwellian 1984 mentality:  certain words, phrases or thoughts are not allowed in your Newspeak frame of mind. But if YOU use them, well- that's OK because you decided you were the arbiter of free thinking.

Using violence to disagree with a speech represents the wrong approach, no matter who is speaking. You know this. Berkeley, for example,  is now an intolerant and fascist state. Yep - the "antifa" are actually the "fa".  Ironic, huh? And the left thought they were the shining light when it comes to free exchange of ideas. Hahahahaha.

[bigkid]

Yes, more people. The fact still remains that he is receives a huge backlash on many campuses. Perhaps people would be more amenable to hear him speak if he left the trolling aside. Further, how many people are really taking away a serious message from him?  Or, how many people are just attending for comedic purposes? As I said in my initial statement, all formal lectures should be of a serious tone, independent of numbers. Pure numbers alone doesn't mean people are learning. And, isn't that the purpose of attending a lecture? In general, crude and trolling comments should be left out of a formal lecture on both sides (audience and lecturer). I said this even before we started to talk about the actual size of his audience.

And the backlash he receives gets him even more news coverage, more attention, more google searches and in the end, gets his message out to more people then lecturing small rooms of college students ever could. 

[mazrim]

Yes, more people. The fact still remains that he is receives a huge backlash on many campuses. Perhaps people would be more amenable to hear him speak if he left the trolling aside. Further, how many people are really taking away a serious message from him?  Or, how many people are just attending for comedic purposes? As I said in my initial statement, all formal lectures should be of a serious tone, independent of numbers. Pure numbers alone doesn't mean people are learning. And, isn't that the purpose of attending a lecture? In general, crude and trolling comments should be left out of a formal lecture on both sides (audience and lecturer). I said this even before we started to talk about the actual size of his audience.

You switched from talking about him not reaching anyone (sold out everywhere he goes) to now he is not really teaching anyone. You are backtracking/switching arguments when one gets shut down.

Your premise was based on his rhetoric at times (usually moreso from social media not his lectures) being unprofessional and thereby alienating/not reaching people. That is false.

[SF1900]

Please SF- lay off the "If he just did this it would be OK" bullshit. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech. You don't like the message, don't attend or don't listen. You embody the classic Orwellian 1984 mentality:  certain words, phrases or thoughts are not allowed in your Newspeak frame of mind. But if YOU use them, well- that's OK because you decided you were the arbiter of free thinking.

Using violence to disagree with a speech represents the wrong approach, no matter who is speaking. You know this. Berkeley, for example,  is now an intolerant and fascist state. Yep - the "antifa" are actually the "fa".  Ironic, huh? And the left thought they were the shining light when it comes to free exchange of ideas. Hahahahaha.

I didn't say, "He would be okay..." I said he may have a better chance.....And I never advocated for violence against what someone says. From purely an educational standpoint, colleges/universities should invite people who are serious about having have serious discussions/dialogues. I really don't think a higher educational setting is a place for trolling.

Did you miss this part I wrote:

However, Milos appears (maybe he's not) to be more of a troll, comedian, and shit stirrer when compared to someone who truly wants to lecture. I don't agree with him giving a speech, not because he's a republican/conservative, but because he's more of a troll than anything else. At least invite a republican/conservative who wants to give a serious lecture. don't agree with anyone saying whatever they want during a professional lecture. If Milos wants to troll social media, that's fine. A professional lecture? No.

Again, I don't mind a different opinion; what I think is stupid is an institution of higher education inviting a troll to talk. It's just stupid. Invite a Ben Carson to talk. I am fine with that. Again, it's A LOT less about republican vs. conservative, and more about his trolling. Formal lectures should be serious matters--not trolling. Universities should invite people who will present a lecture with the utmost seriousness, no matter who it is.

"But if YOU use them, well- that's OK because you decided you were the arbiter of free thinking."

Did you miss the part where I said, "Stick to whatever evidence/content you're presenting in a serious manner. The crude comments should not be allowed in any professional lecture (dem or repubs), either from the person giving the lecture or the people attending."

[SF1900]

You switched from talking about him not reaching anyone (sold out everywhere he goes) to now he is not really teaching anyone. You are backtracking/switching arguments when one gets shut down.

Your premise was based on his rhetoric at times (usually moreso from social media not his lectures) being unprofessional and thereby alienating/not reaching people. That is false.

Actually, this was my initial statement/premise, which never mentioned audience size or alienating others. That was only discussed later in the conversation.

I don't mind a republican/conservative giving a speech on a college/university campus. However, Milos appears (maybe he's not) to be more of a troll, comedian, and shit stirrer when compared to someone who truly wants to lecture. I don't agree with him giving a speech, not because he's a republican/conservative, but because he's more of a troll than anything else. At least invite a republican/conservative who wants to give a serious lecture.

[Megalodon]

And the backlash he receives gets him even more news coverage, more attention, more google searches and in the end, gets his message out to more people then lecturing small rooms of college students ever could.  

I know that. Why wouldn't I know that? Is it him or is it me?    

[bigkid]

I know that. Why wouldn't I know that? Is it him or is it me?