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Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« on: February 13, 2017, 05:15:10 AM »
Does anyone have some factual info on the republican health care/Ins plan?  Thanks! :)

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2017, 05:34:44 AM »
They've had YEARS upon YEARS to come up with something... and *crickets*

That's what's infuriating.

The only plan I've seen has been from Rand Paul... which is a health savings approach.
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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2017, 08:18:52 AM »
Health saving plan is a flop and future disaster.

Despite years of non stop repeal attempts, they have yet to offer any replacement solutions.    Despite Trump promising "huge" and "so many plans, so many we can't even tell you about them" replacement plans, they don't have shit for replacing anything.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 08:43:57 AM »
My OLD fuckin' health insurance which fuckin' worked fine for 20 fuckin' years since I had it..

HOLY SHIT...


can I just get my health insurance back.. the same fuckin' one I used to have my whole fuckin' life that worked just fine


for me and the other 99.9999% of  people the in US which covered what I needed, not what I didnt, had a normal fuckin deductible and didn't put the fuckin' insurance companies out of business


HOLY SHIT.... this dumb ass fucking country..


was nothing fuckin wrong with the 100 years of insurance before Oturdocare

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 10:22:48 AM »
Why can't things just go back to pre-Obamacare days?  Obamacare was implemented to help 15% of the US population anyway, and it ended up hurting them instead with the premium and deductible increases.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2017, 10:35:54 AM »
Why can't things just go back to pre-Obamacare days?  Obamacare was implemented to help 15% of the US population anyway, and it ended up hurting them instead with the premium and deductible increases.

It's nice that you're concerned a out health care in the US

What's the healthcare system in your country?

Some kind of single payer universal coverage plan?

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2017, 11:00:50 AM »
It's nice that you're concerned a out health care in the US

What's the healthcare system in your country?

Some kind of single payer universal coverage plan?

Thank you!

That's on a "need to know" basis.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 11:12:53 AM »
Thank you!

That's on a "need to know" basis.

What's the issue with telling us how health care works in your country?


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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 11:17:58 AM »
What's the issue with telling us how health care works in your country?

No issue.  This thread, and my post above is about how health care works in the US.  I discuss what I want to discuss, not what you want me to discuss.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2017, 11:28:21 AM »
No issue.  This thread, and my post above is about how health care works in the US.  I discuss what I want to discuss, not what you want me to discuss.

Why do you care about health care in a country where you do not reside?
What other countries healthcare systems are of interest to you?

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 12:03:07 PM »
Why do you care about health care in a country where you do not reside?
What other countries healthcare systems are of interest to you?

Why not?

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2017, 02:39:41 PM »
My OLD fuckin' health insurance which fuckin' worked fine for 20 fuckin' years since I had it..

HOLY SHIT...


can I just get my health insurance back.. the same fuckin' one I used to have my whole fuckin' life that worked just fine


for me and the other 99.9999% of  people the in US which covered what I needed, not what I didnt, had a normal fuckin deductible and didn't put the fuckin' insurance companies out of business


HOLY SHIT.... this dumb ass fucking country..


was nothing fuckin wrong with the 100 years of insurance before Oturdocare
Exactly. The previous "plan" was lightyears ahead of Obamacare so go back to that until something can get figured out if needed. Simple.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2017, 03:25:01 PM »
The United States is the greatest country in the history of the world ... and it's 2017 ... and it still hasn't forged a national consensus on health care?

But I guess that's not surprising given that the U.S. is a country that's still rasslin' with the whole abortion issue.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2017, 04:50:32 PM »
The United States is the greatest country in the history of the world ... and it's 2017 ... and it still hasn't figured out a national consensus on health care?

But I guess that's not surprising given that the U.S. is a country that's still rasslin' with the whole abortion issue.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2017, 04:58:46 PM »
Exactly. The previous "plan" was lightyears ahead of Obamacare so go back to that until something can get figured out if needed. Simple.

Pretty much.  We don't have to (and should not) keep a bad law on the books. 

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2017, 06:34:26 PM »
Pretty much.  We don't have to (and should not) keep a bad law on the books.  

which is what I was hoping Trump would do the 1st day in office like he promised.

Not sign some dumb ass piece of paper which does shit.

Now tax season is here and once again I have to pay a freakin' penalty for not being able to afford health insurance and not being able to afford the penalty.

Being penalized by my government for not buying a product from a PRIVATE fuckin' company


holy shit..


2.5% of my fuckin income to cover Googles and other worthless scum

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2017, 06:37:35 PM »
which is what I was hoping Trump would do the 1st day in office like he promised.

Not sign some dumb ass piece of paper which does shit.

Now tax season is here and once again I have to pay a freakin' penalty for not being able to afford health insurance and not being able to afford the penalty.

Being penalized by my government for not buying a product from a PRIVATE fuckin' company


holy shit..


2.5% of my fuckin income to cover Googles and other worthless scum

He cannot repeal a law.  Congress has to do that.  I don't have a problem with his pace on this.

Sorry you are getting hosed.  That is something courtesy of Obama and Congressional Democrats.   

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2017, 01:18:06 AM »
He cannot repeal a law.  Congress has to do that.  I don't have a problem with his pace on this.

Sorry you are getting hosed.  That is something courtesy of Obama and Congressional Democrats.   

The hosing is surely the Democrats, but Trump has NO plan to get rid of Obamacare.

He just doesn't.

The town halls this week all but guarantee it will stay relatively in place.

I really don't see how hard it would be to at least overturn the penalty portion. The Republicans have all chambers and the Presidency.

They could have done it already if they really wanted to.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2017, 07:58:32 AM »
ideally nothing
deregulation not government is the answer
government will just make price go up and supply go down
same as in all industry

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2017, 10:20:29 AM »
I don't know if that's true across the board nor is it a good idea.

No one wants to go back to the premise of not being able to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions and what not.

Were it not for government regulation, pregnancy would be a pre-existing condition.

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2017, 12:22:24 PM »
The hosing is surely the Democrats, but Trump has NO plan to get rid of Obamacare.

He just doesn't.

The town halls this week all but guarantee it will stay relatively in place.

I really don't see how hard it would be to at least overturn the penalty portion. The Republicans have all chambers and the Presidency.

They could have done it already if they really wanted to.

I think he will keep the preexisting conditions and keeping older kids on the plan portions, but I cannot imagine he will keep the mandate.  With Price at the head of HHS, I think something will get done. 

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2017, 02:51:11 PM »
I think he will keep the preexisting conditions and keeping older kids on the plan portions, but I cannot imagine he will keep the mandate.  With Price at the head of HHS, I think something will get done. 

I really wish this was done already. I'm absolutely shocked this isn't done at all.

I guess it being a law does cause a lot more trouble.

 :-\

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2017, 03:46:49 PM »
I really wish this was done already. I'm absolutely shocked this isn't done at all.

I guess it being a law does cause a lot more trouble.

 :-\

I don't think he can eliminate the mandate without Congress changing the law.  He has to enforce the law until Congress changes it.  Or least that's the way it's supposed to work. 

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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2017, 03:54:22 PM »
Simple


Abortion...take the stairs

Broken arm....stick and twine


Surgery needed....die
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Re: Serious question: What's the replacement plan for Obamacare?
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2017, 03:55:51 PM »
We're still trying to find out the "plan" for Obamacare.

This is just weak Coach.  You can do better than this.