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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2017, 04:14:40 PM »
Uncertain if I got the correct message from here, but underlying - you had much experience in your life with opioids?

Unfortunately yea

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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2017, 04:42:54 PM »
If you have time, an painkiller/opiate guide would be an interesting read by someone with your knowledge.

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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2017, 06:04:08 PM »
Opiates don't do shit for the pain.  They go to your brain and you make you feel high so you're not only numb to the pain but you're numb to other shit as well.

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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2017, 06:12:42 PM »
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Re: Painkillers
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« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2017, 07:13:01 PM »
I once failed to take Dr. Champion's advice and took one  prescribed Percoset (spelling?) each day for about a week or more and it actually didn't do much as a pain reliever much to everyone's surprise.

But one doctor did advise me not to sell any excess pills on the street because they were very popular for the drug addicted set who would be willing to buy each and every pill I had for about $70 to $90 each.

Is that true or was he exaggerating?








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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2017, 07:17:03 PM »
Just deal with it,don't try to mask it.If you mask the pain you will make it worse.I enjoy pain as without it you wouldn't know what feeling good is like.

this home boy is a stoic warrior.

 he is giving up some awesome philosophy here

good way to think of it.

i try to avoid joint paints/knees/back etc etc i dont mind the soreness feeling  - gotta stretch OP

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« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2017, 07:18:57 PM »
I dont like em at all. yeah after a surgery use them for 1-2 days or whatever is considered normal for the operation.

but i dont get the whole crazy addicted ppl get to them cuz i dont see the enjoyment in them? yes i like a good buzz but dont get the opiates thing

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« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2017, 07:26:23 PM »
Opiates don't do shit for the pain.  They go to your brain and you make you feel high so you're not only numb to the pain but you're numb to other shit as well.

Whooooa, easy now. What part of your body hurt when the opiates failed? Because they certainly take away stomach pain from pancreatitis. Which can be pretty damn severe.

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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2017, 07:27:20 PM »
 tramadol, It is a weak opiate, and works really well.
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« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2017, 07:50:47 PM »
If you have time, an painkiller/opiate guide would be an interesting read by someone with your knowledge.

If i have time i could put something together, but in general you'll develope a tolerance both to the pink killing effects as well as the "high/euphoria". Im reluctant to use the term "high" when referring to opiates, since it's more of a warm blanket-feeling of contentment. "High" i tend to associate with something like weed, which is a dissociative (dissacoiates your mind from reality). Keep in mind that drugs/medications affect people differently. For instance many people get sleepy and nod off with opiates, whereas with me they "woke me up" and i functioned perfectly normal and never made me tired and allowed me to work 5/530am till midnight, get home and get to bed by 1/130am, wake up 4/430am and repeat.

Opiate withdrawal sucks. The withdrawal differs between particular opiates. Heroin/morphine/oxycodone/hydromorphone/oxymorphone withdrawal isnt nearly as bad as methadone or nubain/torbugesic/temgesic(which can last 45+ days). Tramadol/Ultram is unique because it works on 9-13 areas in the brain. In addition to being an opiate agonist/antagonist, it's also a (among other things...) Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) and Selective Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor (SNRI) such as Celexa and Effexor, both of which cause shitty, unexpected withdrawal if you happen to miss a dose.

Another shitty part about opiates is that the tolerance stays with you for a long time. For instance, about a month ago i had kidney stones. I suffered through the first couple days, but i had shit to do that couldnt wait, so i bit the bullet and picked up some Percocet. Took 30mg that afternoon and felt nothing. Next day pain was worse... Long story short, 160mgs at once barely made my nose itch although it made so i could stand up outnof a chair without my back feeling like it was going to break (kidney stones give me pain at the very bottom of my lumbar spine... Passing the stones is nothing compared to the 3-5days of pain prior to passing them). 160mgs of oxycodone is a big dose, & keep in mind i hadnt had any opiates for 9+months. Another instance/example would be back in 2003 i was hospitalized for 10 days with pancreatitis and given 1-2mg Diluadid iv every few hours. That 2mg would have me about as "high" as ive ever been and id go from laying on my side in the hospital bed, unable to stand without curling over clutching my stomach , to unplugging my iv unit and walking down to the cafeteria and eating  (going against the dr-ordered liquid only diet. Opiates make me hungry as fuck)... Fast forwad to a couple years ago, towards the end of my relapse (aside from the 10days of painkillers in the hospital i was clean from opiates from about dec 2001 till about june 2015 (or 2014? I forget), i ran out of diacetyl-morphine  and was in withdrawal, but found some Diluadid. Remember 2mg had an enormous effect on me before.... Now? I shot 24mg iv and i was still in withdrawal. Same thing happened after that and instead of diluadid, i took 240mg oxycodone crushed up at once,& again, was still in withdrawal.

So, to summarize, opiates are always a lose-lose situation... Unless you have terminal cancer and youre gonna die and just want to be comfortable until it's time.

This is training... Learn to embrace the pain and discomfort.

*i forgot one thing... CBD oil/vape/edibles or whatever. Ive seen promising reports/studies on it being beneficial to athletes as an antiinflamatory/pain-reliever. However ive not used it myself. A lady i used to date happens to be the supplier for 90% of all dispensaries in the desert (5'2" red haired 53yr old latina with f-cup boobs lol)... So maybe I'll hit her up for a CBD vape pen and see how it works.  

*far as i know, CBD is non-psychoactive, unlike THC.

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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2017, 07:55:22 PM »
tramadol, It is a weak opiate, and works really well.

Seems to handle pain pretty well without the buzz you get from Norco, Vicodin, or Oxys. But the withdrawals are pretty horrible, if you get hooked. Which many/most do, of course.

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« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2017, 08:16:35 PM »
So, to summarize, opiates are always a lose-lose situation... Unless you have terminal cancer and youre gonna die and just want to be comfortable until it's time.


thank you - all i needed to know

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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2017, 08:16:41 PM »
Just deal with it,don't try to mask it.If you mask the pain you will make it worse.I enjoy pain as without it you wouldn't know what feeling good is like.

this home boy is a stoic warrior.

 he is giving up some awesome philosophy here

good way to think of it.


 ;D  That's because his advice may sound vaguely similar to this guys:

"Pain don't hurt..."
Dalton, Roadhouse 1989


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« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2017, 09:09:37 PM »
tramadol, It is a weak opiate, and works really well.

Be careful my friend. That Tramadol will sneak up on you. It's dirt cheap all over the internet and making all the rounds.

I urge caution.
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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2017, 09:37:28 PM »
Edible cannabis

- never met a individual with a nice physique that was on opiates for longer than 2 weeks , your just taking them to get laced on a daily basis , even if it's 'to get thru a workout'
shit eats you up , don't care who you are , hell you can't even take a shit correctly on that stuff

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Re: Painkillers
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2017, 10:37:32 PM »
Be careful my friend. That Tramadol will sneak up on you. It's dirt cheap all over the internet and making all the rounds.

I urge caution.
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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2017, 10:45:08 PM »
So, to summarize, opiates are always a lose-lose situation... Unless you have terminal cancer and youre gonna die and just want to be comfortable until it's time.


thank you - all i needed to know

This was the original intention. Good doctors still only prescribe sparingly, in minimal doses, and usually as a last resort. Way too addictive.

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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2017, 11:51:09 PM »
If i have time i could put something together, but in general you'll develope a tolerance both to the pink killing effects as well as the "high/euphoria". Im reluctant to use the term "high" when referring to opiates, since it's more of a warm blanket-feeling of contentment. "High" i tend to associate with something like weed, which is a dissociative (dissacoiates your mind from reality). Keep in mind that drugs/medications affect people differently. For instance many people get sleepy and nod off with opiates, whereas with me they "woke me up" and i functioned perfectly normal and never made me tired and allowed me to work 5/530am till midnight, get home and get to bed by 1/130am, wake up 4/430am and repeat.

Opiate withdrawal sucks. The withdrawal differs between particular opiates. Heroin/morphine/oxycodone/hydromorphone/oxymorphone withdrawal isnt nearly as bad as methadone or nubain/torbugesic/temgesic(which can last 45+ days). Tramadol/Ultram is unique because it works on 9-13 areas in the brain. In addition to being an opiate agonist/antagonist, it's also a (among other things...) Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) and Selective Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor (SNRI) such as Celexa and Effexor, both of which cause shitty, unexpected withdrawal if you happen to miss a dose.

Another shitty part about opiates is that the tolerance stays with you for a long time. For instance, about a month ago i had kidney stones. I suffered through the first couple days, but i had shit to do that couldnt wait, so i bit the bullet and picked up some Percocet. Took 30mg that afternoon and felt nothing. Next day pain was worse... Long story short, 160mgs at once barely made my nose itch although it made so i could stand up outnof a chair without my back feeling like it was going to break (kidney stones give me pain at the very bottom of my lumbar spine... Passing the stones is nothing compared to the 3-5days of pain prior to passing them). 160mgs of oxycodone is a big dose, & keep in mind i hadnt had any opiates for 9+months. Another instance/example would be back in 2003 i was hospitalized for 10 days with pancreatitis and given 1-2mg Diluadid iv every few hours. That 2mg would have me about as "high" as ive ever been and id go from laying on my side in the hospital bed, unable to stand without curling over clutching my stomach , to unplugging my iv unit and walking down to the cafeteria and eating  (going against the dr-ordered liquid only diet. Opiates make me hungry as fuck)... Fast forwad to a couple years ago, towards the end of my relapse (aside from the 10days of painkillers in the hospital i was clean from opiates from about dec 2001 till about june 2015 (or 2014? I forget), i ran out of diacetyl-morphine  and was in withdrawal, but found some Diluadid. Remember 2mg had an enormous effect on me before.... Now? I shot 24mg iv and i was still in withdrawal. Same thing happened after that and instead of diluadid, i took 240mg oxycodone crushed up at once,& again, was still in withdrawal.

So, to summarize, opiates are always a lose-lose situation... Unless you have terminal cancer and youre gonna die and just want to be comfortable until it's time.

This is training... Learn to embrace the pain and discomfort.

*i forgot one thing... CBD oil/vape/edibles or whatever. Ive seen promising reports/studies on it being beneficial to athletes as an antiinflamatory/pain-reliever. However ive not used it myself. A lady i used to date happens to be the supplier for 90% of all dispensaries in the desert (5'2" red haired 53yr old latina with f-cup boobs lol)... So maybe I'll hit her up for a CBD vape pen and see how it works.  

*far as i know, CBD is non-psychoactive, unlike THC.

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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2017, 11:52:24 PM »
;D  That's because his advice may sound vaguely similar to this guys:

"Pain don't hurt..."
Dalton, Roadhouse 1989




wait until he gets a kidney stone....

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Re: Painkillers
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2017, 12:00:56 AM »
Painkiller use should be limited to when you truly need them, otherwise one day you may actually need them and they don't do shit for your pain as you are that used to them they don't work any more

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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2017, 12:02:34 AM »
Be careful my friend. That Tramadol will sneak up on you. It's dirt cheap all over the internet and making all the rounds.

I urge caution.

Still seen as mild and not very addictive in the medical community for some reason. That shit has me feeling extremely good, wonderful for draining physical/boring work. But even just a couple of days use has me feeling like shit for a couple days after stopping. Extremely good antidepressant that works immediately; a friend actually claimed he had it prescribed for depression by some crazy doc.

Makes it hard/impossible to orgasm.

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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2017, 12:22:36 AM »
Still seen as mild and not very addictive in the medical community for some reason. That shit has me feeling extremely good, wonderful for draining physical/boring work. But even just a couple of days use has me feeling like shit for a couple days after stopping. Extremely good antidepressant that works immediately; a friend actually claimed he had it prescribed for depression by some crazy doc.

Makes it hard/impossible to orgasm.

Because it also works as an SSRI and SNRI.

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« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2017, 12:30:36 AM »
I dont like em at all. yeah after a surgery use them for 1-2 days or whatever is considered normal for the operation.

but i dont get the whole crazy addicted ppl get to them cuz i dont see the enjoyment in them? yes i like a good buzz but dont get the opiates thing

Everybodys chemistry is different. Ive never seen the enjoyment in any kind of stimulant or benzo, yet some ppl abuse them and get addicted. Kinda irritating when you mention to a dr that you had an opiate problem and because of that he refuses to write a script for 1mg klonopin 2x per day (when you use the same dose of benzo today as you did/have since 2001)... Yet has no problem prescribing 8 tabs of Tramadol per day. :/