Painkillers

[ESFitness]

After years of reading stories of the pro bodybuilders in the 90s, were most of them hooked on painkillers, coke, Nubian, and steroids all at once?

Not all used coke... A good number did, but double that used painkillers. (usually started with nubain then went to regular painkillers).

[Jamaal]

Not all used coke... A good number did, but double that used painkillers. (usually started with nubain then went to regular painkillers).

Must've stemmed back from when pill mills in the States were common

[HTexan]

how does one get addicted to something that isn't addictive?

I guess the same way people get addicted to roids. 

[Jamaal]

I guess the same way people get addicted to roids. 

Add to that, the placebo effect, and the trend and "feeling accepted" paradox

[Simple Simon]

I guess the same way people get addicted to roids. 

it isnt an addiction to the steroids its an addiction what they do for you.
If they didnt do anything you wouldnt take them......sorry scratch that, esfitness disproves that statement.

[ESFitness]

it isnt an addiction to the steroids its an addiction what they do for you.
If they didnt do anything you wouldnt take them......sorry scratch that, esfitness disproves that statement.

Pathetic how I occupy so much space in that pea brain of yours

[Jamaal]

ES... Curious - how many doctors were willing to prescribe you those high doses? Did you just have a primary doctor or did you resort to obtaining by other means also?

These days - it would be highly suspect for a doctor to prescribe anything really - based on what news sources claim, but this could be wrong.

Insight?

[spiro]

Curious where did people get nubain? I thought it was only for pregnant women?

[Jamaal]

... Nubian and opiates...

[wes]

This thread makes me happy that I finally got clean and sober.

[HTexan]

it isnt an addiction to the steroids its an addiction what they do for you.
If they didnt do anything you wouldnt take them......sorry scratch that, esfitness disproves that statement.

so you can be addicted to the way OTC pain meds make to feel too then?

[ESFitness]

so you can be addicted to the way OTC pain meds make to feel too then?

No, the bum has no idea what he's talking about and as always, has nothing whatsoever to contribute. Every one of his posts are 100% worthless trolling.

[spiro]

Mexico.

Used to head down and pop the aluminum cap and rubber stopper off dozens and dozens of 10cc astra or abbot vials (or dupont amps) & fill water bottles (16oz - 1L) and walk straight through customs with it. Theyd ask for id and empty my pockets and id place the bottle right on the counter in front of the guys face and empty my pockets. Never said shit. Did it 3-4 days a week. (started out with just putting 2-3 vials worth in a water bottle though). Never got caught. Scott markey did though. Customs thought he was drunk, smelled his bottle and made him toss it. (i was usually the one bringing the shit across.. And driving him since he had no license and no car.)

At first a vial cost about $14 for abbott and 16-17 for astra (i think there were astra amps as well), and 22 or so for 10 dupont amps... Towards the end all that was left was abbott vials that went 80-110$. Then i switched to torbugesic for a while before i finally got off completely. Not many ppl knew about torbugesic.. Cuz they were too dumb to do the research. I could pay $25 for a 10cc 2mg/cc bottle of torbugesic, or pay $140-150 for a 50cc bottle of 10mg/cc.

How many shots did you get out of a 10 cc vial. How does it compare to shooting heroin or oxies?

 I was into the oxies methadone percs for a few years. It was awesome until I started booting 2-3 oxy 80s a day on top of a morning 40 mg dose of methadone. My dad kicked my door in one day after he smelled matches being burned in my room to cook my shots I got clean soon after. He helped me turn my life around this was 10 years ago.

You ever try the kadien morphine pills with the little balls in them friends of mine went nuts for those.

[ESFitness]

How many shots did you get out of a 10 cc vial. How does it compare to shooting heroin or oxies?

 I was into the oxies methadone percs for a few years. It was awesome until I started booting 2-3 oxy 80s a day on top of a morning 40 mg dose of methadone. My dad kicked my door in one day after he smelled matches being burned in my room to cook my shots I got clean soon after. He helped me turn my life around this was 10 years ago.

About 10-15 shots per bottle i guess. At first you do 10-15iu subq.. Then 10 im.. Then 30im.. Then 10iv.. Then 50iv.. Then 50-100iu iv each time... N eventually you do 15-20  iv shots a day. Missed shots arnt a problem since its not like a cooked down pill (i got cellulitis, sepsis, endocarditis, and a 105.7 fever from cooking diluadid) or heroin. (actually u can shoot heroin im no problem, but subq is an abcess almost for sure).

Nubain is different from heroin or oxy. Its maybe more similar to diluadid. Opiates make me hungry, but nubain especially made me hungry and content. The withdrawal from nubain is different from other opiates in that its the only one thats made my skin feel like its crawling.

I could take 3 oxy 80s at once and still be in withdrawal. Lol

[The Ugly]

About 10-15 shots per bottle i guess. At first you do 10-15iu subq.. Then 10 im.. Then 30im.. Then 10iv.. Then 50iv.. Then 50-100iu iv each time... N eventually you do 15-20  iv shots a day. Missed shots arnt a problem since its not like a cooked down pill (i got cellulitis, sepsis, endocarditis, and a 105.7 fever from cooking diluadid) or heroin. (actually u can shoot heroin im no problem, but subq is an abcess almost for sure).

Nubain is different from heroin or oxy. Its maybe more similar to diluadid. Opiates make me hungry, but nubain especially made me hungry and content. The withdrawal from nubain is different from other opiates in that its the only one thats made my skin feel like its crawling.

I could take 3 oxy 80s at once and still be in withdrawal. Lol

Ever get crazy nightmares from the IV opiates?

[spiro]

About 10-15 shots per bottle i guess. At first you do 10-15iu subq.. Then 10 im.. Then 30im.. Then 10iv.. Then 50iv.. Then 50-100iu iv each time... N eventually you do 15-20  iv shots a day. Missed shots arnt a problem since its not like a cooked down pill (i got cellulitis, sepsis, endocarditis, and a 105.7 fever from cooking diluadid) or heroin. (actually u can shoot heroin im no problem, but subq is an abcess almost for sure).

Nubain is different from heroin or oxy. Its maybe more similar to diluadid. Opiates make me hungry, but nubain especially made me hungry and content. The withdrawal from nubain is different from other opiates in that its the only one thats made my skin feel like its crawling.

I could take 3 oxy 80s at once and still be in withdrawal. Lol

You ever try the kadien morphine capsules with the little morphine beads inside? I remember people going nuts for those and the opanas.

[ESFitness]

You ever try the kadien morphine capsules with the little morphine beads inside? I remember people going nuts for those and the opanas.

Yep... Fucked up my t-spine in 2011? Maybe 2012 and was given 3 200mg caps. First time taking 1 i thought it was bunk, till i woke up high as fuck the next day, and stayed high all day till about 10pm that night. Next time i took it i knew what to expect.

Tried a few opana while i was on H... Was not impressed even at 30mg iv.

[ESFitness]

Ever get crazy nightmares from the IV opiates?

Not that i can recall.

[spiro]

Yep... Fucked up my t-spine in 2011? Maybe 2012 and was given 3 200mg caps. First time taking 1 i thought it was bunk, till i woke up high as fuck the next day, and stayed high all day till about 10pm that night. Next time i took it i knew what to expect.

Tried a few opana while i was on H... Was not impressed even at 30mg iv.

You clean now man?

[ESFitness]

You clean now man?

Yea... Lemme think.. 10months now? Roughly. Be a year april 13

[spiro]

Yea... Lemme think.. 10months now? Roughly. Be a year april 13

That's great man good for you I hope you stay clean.

[Simple Simon]

About 10-15 shots per bottle i guess. At first you do 10-15iu subq.. Then 10 im.. Then 30im.. Then 10iv.. Then 50iv.. Then 50-100iu iv each time... N eventually you do 15-20  iv shots a day. Missed shots arnt a problem since its not like a cooked down pill (i got cellulitis, sepsis, endocarditis, and a 105.7 fever from cooking diluadid) or heroin. (actually u can shoot heroin im no problem, but subq is an abcess almost for sure).

Nubain is different from heroin or oxy. Its maybe more similar to diluadid. Opiates make me hungry, but nubain especially made me hungry and content. The withdrawal from nubain is different from other opiates in that its the only one thats made my skin feel like its crawling.

I could take 3 oxy 80s at once and still be in withdrawal. Lol

you are aware this is nothing to be proud of you worthless weak minded asswipe.

[ESFitness]

you are aware this is nothing to be proud of you worthless weak minded asswipe.

Proud of what pencilneck?

[Simple Simon]

Proud of what pencilneck?

whats the matter, are you in a haze of medication at the moment?

Its pretty obvious what I meant.

[Jamaal]

This thread makes me happy that I finally got clean and sober.

Just piecing info together from the past week of posting and seeing what you have to say...

Wes, do you feel that your anxiety disorder was perpetuated by your drug use? What drugs have you been known to use and now are clean from? Interesting to hear that you got clean at a higher age than most. What perpetuated this?