Anyone that I have ever met that uses it, is someone who has done years of stacks, and has gotten to a stage where even with large quantities and great stacks, clean diet, hard workouts and total dedication, are taking gh to get to another level, that 95% of us here will never achieve and possibly don't want to achieve, gh slin dnp...this is a whole nother level...how experienced are you, what have you used so far, if you've never done AAS, you might find that a good basic stack with good diet and training with give you the results your wanting on their own. Even HRT programs that prescribe gh, usually prescribe it in conjunction with test...not something I would look at running solo.